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originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: vincentdaniel7
Just as when he called Peter Satan... He didn't mean he was possessed by the devil... he was thinking selfishly
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: vincentdaniel7
The side of satan eh...
The very idea that an angel can rebel against its creator, (the most powerful being in the universe) is just silly...
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: vincentdaniel7
Once again you're personifying something that wasn't mean to be taken as a real entity...
Further more you add the "one" at the end, and I've seen many Christians also do this with the lords prayer, and THAT is not what it says...
HE's not saying "satan" influenced Peter... it was his own selfishness, not wanting his master to leave him
There is no entity influencing man... whispering in our ears making us do bad things
It all comes from within...
Why use Satan as a scapegoat.... Its not the devil doing bad things... its US
I just gave you a giant post on how we know that Satan is a real person both Old Testament and from
And all I did to that scripture was add parentheses I did not change the words I don't know about your King James Version of the Bible but I know that when I study the Greek language it says evil ONE.
All I did was put parentheses what is the crime in that?
KEEP YOUR SENSES, BE WATCHFUL!
YOUR ADVERSARY, THE DEVIL,
WALKS ABOUT LIKE A ROARING LION,
SEEKING TO DEVOUR SOMEONE.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: vincentdaniel7
I don't buy it bro...
sorry... Satan isn't real...
He's another method of control used by the church to scare people into believing...
Theres no more reality to Satan then there is to the easter bunny
originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight
a reply to: Murgatroid
FACT you have been deceived, the demiurge jehovah has blinded you
using the bible to prove the bible? See I can play the same game, unlike you
I dont seek converts to reinforce my doubts
Now I am serious opponent of the mainstream Christian view of hell,
TO me that is a scare tactic used by the churches to not only scare you to continue to go to church for FINANCIAL GAIN but for POWER and CONTROL these churches are DRUNK ON THEIR POWER and there scare tactic is causing destruction and God will deal with them in the end for giving him a bad name.
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE SAYING "
THE GREATEST TRICK THAT WAS EVER PLAYED ON MANKIND WAS THE DEVIL MADE THEM THINK HE DIDN'T EVEN EXIST.
NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL INGENIOUS MILITARY STRATEGY OF CLOAKING YOURSELF BUT I REFUSE TO BE FOOLED BY HIM.
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: vincentdaniel7
Now I am serious opponent of the mainstream Christian view of hell,
TO me that is a scare tactic used by the churches to not only scare you to continue to go to church for FINANCIAL GAIN but for POWER and CONTROL these churches are DRUNK ON THEIR POWER and there scare tactic is causing destruction and God will deal with them in the end for giving him a bad name.
Well at least we do agree on some things... my thoughts exactly
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD THE SAYING "
THE GREATEST TRICK THAT WAS EVER PLAYED ON MANKIND WAS THE DEVIL MADE THEM THINK HE DIDN'T EVEN EXIST.
NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL INGENIOUS MILITARY STRATEGY OF CLOAKING YOURSELF BUT I REFUSE TO BE FOOLED BY HIM.
Of course I have... I prefer my version of it...
The greatest trick the church ever played was to convince the world there is an entity whispering in your ear making you do bad things... but they have the cure... OF COURSE!!
Whole sale salvation of souls... and protection from "the big bad devil"
Because the devil fears Christianity... but in actuality IF he existed he would thrive on it because the religion is ripe with hypocrisy and evil... if such a thing exists
Yes he can carry out a surgical strike if there is anyone to be saved like he actually did he surgically strike Sodom and Gomorrah and saved lots family
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: vincentdaniel7
Actually no they didn't argue at all...
There were three questions... all of which refer to his own personal demons in struggling with the fact that he was the son of God...
I just gave you a giant post on how we know that Satan is a real person both Old Testament and from
The references you used to satan were not mentioning a real entity... Job is a story book like I said, it has a moral to it, that being "trust in God"
And all I did to that scripture was add parentheses I did not change the words I don't know about your King James Version of the Bible but I know that when I study the Greek language it says evil ONE.
Why would it?
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
its a complete sentence... adding "One" at the end would just end up being nonsense...
All I did was put parentheses what is the crime in that?
Well you're adding something that isn't there, of course that also depends on the translation... its split down the middle for the most part... but saying the whole world lies in the wicked one personifies the idea of wickedness and makes said entity responsible for something that is completely on us... not a fallen angel here to tempt the world
No crime... Just unnecessary
KEEP YOUR SENSES, BE WATCHFUL!
YOUR ADVERSARY, THE DEVIL,
WALKS ABOUT LIKE A ROARING LION,
SEEKING TO DEVOUR SOMEONE.
Right... materialism
Which infests the world, and again is solely our issue... Not the devil
when JEHOVAH actually does it,,,
YOUR LIGHTS JUST GO OUT, no pain just lights out.
originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: vincentdaniel7
when JEHOVAH actually does it,,,
YOUR LIGHTS JUST GO OUT, no pain just lights out.
Well as long as the murder was painless I guess...
Not sure how volcanic eruption and drowning is painless, but whatever.
originally posted by: Lucid Lunacy
a reply to: vincentdaniel7
when JEHOVAH actually does it,,,
YOUR LIGHTS JUST GO OUT, no pain just lights out.
Well as long as the murder was painless I guess...
Not sure how volcanic eruption and drowning is painless, but whatever.
And again it is NOT MURDER