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This is the nature of the free will covenant.
I have just over seven thousand posts on this forum and I have a few thousand on other forums so I can safely say there is nothing new in this thread which I have not considered before now. So, the point is that though it may seem I am not taking enough time with each post, well that is because these are all things I have deeply considered at one time or another over the last few years. I have read a lot of Autowrench and agree with a lot of what he says and I am not known to ever get into any arguments with him. I am a certified master heavy duty truck mechanic so I feel a certain bond with my fellow wrencher.
-Are you considering, with an open mind the responses and opinions of the people who have responded to your OP?
-Would you ever consider that your position is wrong or that you are misinformed?
-Will you take the time to checkout and read any of the suggested alternative views/links given to you by autowrench and others.
-If not, why not?
-If not what do you have to fear?
Originally posted by jmdewey60
Religion is worshiping God.
Anyone who says they are against religion is against God, and have some sort of hatred towards God and want to create an illusion for themselves that they can hide from God in a bubble to where inside this bubble they are invisible to God and can do whatever they want and they will be protected from any punishment.
In fact, such people believe that their sins have been transferred to another person to take that punishment for them, on an individual bases, meaning a personal salvation, just for them, in this delusional world which they have created for themselves.edit on 3-1-2012 by jmdewey60 because: (no reason given)
So if I am apart of a satanic religion I will go to hevan? Pure ignorance. I take it your a christian, your judging people right now and I bet you will not admit it. Because you cannot admit you can not confess witch means you cannot ask for forgiveness. Your going to hell boy.
I'm guessing you are talking to me while addressing anyone in general. You know I have read your posts before and you have a way of cutting through the nonsense which I respect and I try to do the same sot of thing but it is impossible for me to do it in the same way that you do because of my own personal experiences that have set in my mind a couple of undeniable truths.
Originally posted by RickyVelveeta
If by 'god' we're talking about one's inner instinct and freedom as an individual, then there's some truth in this horrendous intellectual car crash of a thread.
'hiding in a bubble to escape from god'
That's what faith does. Allows you to hide from personal freedom and responsibility; shifting it into the hands of an imaginary friend so you don't have to deal with complex natural human emotions/urges/instincts. And of course the fact that we exist for pretty much no reason (a long time ago we might have done). Religious people are the ones being ruled by fear. Faith can be a powerful ally, but that doesn't make anything true or good. History has proven that man is capable of believing the wildest of things, right down to the core.
Sorry, but putting faith in Jesus is about the same as a 5 year old who's obsessed with Justin Bieber or Legos or Santa Claus. God is just an excuse to banzai your brain into perpetual emotional comfort. Come on, just imagine having never heard of Jesus or the bible and suddenly hearing about it all as a fully grown adult. You would think it was completely absurd. That's a fact.
Originally posted by curious7
reply to post by NOTurTypical
That's what people forget and why I hate the fact that some people ritualistically attend church week after week and take part in ceremonies involving fancy robes and such just to show how "dedicated to God" they are.
All you need is a belief, the occasional prayer in thanks for the good things you have and a love of whatever deities you believe in. Love thy neighbour and all that. Everything else like the ceremonies and the pomp and circumstance is just bastardising the religion and turning it into something far away from what it originally meant and stood for.
I was practically born with a violin in my hand and that was like a family tradition that everyone had to be a musician and it was somehow decided I was going to play the violin.
didn't see the books you have read,but i did see your new bows! beautiful! i play a wee bit,more of a guitar guy!
You do not qualify for my target group for condemnation, sorry to disappoint you.
So because I am against all forms of religion due to them all being based on the same things but fighting against each other and amongst themselves with evil and hatred and because if I had to, I'd rather take all the good bits of every religion including Satanism, Buddhism, Taoism, Christianity, Islam etc to follow a more perfect and true mindset based on the original teachings before religions became corrupt, that means I'm going to Hell anyway?
I got this from the Bible dictionary definition, you may want to give that a try.
I reject the SECULAR definition of religion. Not the Biblical one. Jesus saves, not rituals and religion.