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Man claims PAN AM flight logs show baby Obama flew with parents from Kenya to Hawaii

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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 10:44 AM
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The Constitution hasn't been worht the paper it was written on from the perspective of the Government for at least 20 years--if not longer. How many sound clips do we need ot politicians saying that the constitution is the most dangerous thing in our country? It's doubtful that if Obama really is an Alien POTUS, that they'd side with the constitution, since interpretation matters more than what's actually written.




posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by EmVeeFF

Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
Hi all, just bringing my friend dead horse by so he can get his daily beating.. Nice to see us going after the real issues and all.


it isn't a dead horse if the general consensus is a LIE

seriously, why is it that some intelligent (well, I assume so atleast) people just let their minds go blank when it come to this issue?


Why dont you stand in front of a mirror and ask that question. There is no issue thats why us intelligent people laugh and joke about this whole subject. Don't you really think that if this was a genuine issue that congress or some other enemy of his in DC would have already been in court with this?



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by dron020
So i guess the tea party does not have a problem when both Bush junior and bush senior get presidency. Does it not occur to you people that every president is corrupted. Or is the fact that Obama is not a rich white men who belonged to a secret society that has all of you soo angry at the injustice.


Oh, no, we have a problem with it. Both Bushes were too Liberal. The last Sacred Goat was Regan.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 10:50 AM
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This just in folks: Breaking news in the field of genetics.
It has now been found that if your mother is white and your father is black you are asian.


*****Hes not even a actual black,look at his skin,hes from a asian country. ******
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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by abeverage
WHY? Because he can suggest people for public appointment?
Czars are appointed this way. Their powers are so defined as outside the laws of the Constitution...so yeah I'd blame any president who insisted on appointing a Czar, even if it was my beloved Regan.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by SaturnFXAnd no...both parties are not the same side. The Dems have a specific union strong ideal, reps are all about the corporations. It may be easier to dismiss thinking about the complexities of the two different partys by just painting them with the same brush, but don't try to push your apathetic view on the differences to be the common understanding.


It would be better stated to say that Democrats are Socialists, and Republicans are Democrats.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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Yeah, it does stink, but since it is funny, I am getting a laugh out of it.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by ItsAnOddFuture
No matter what ANYBODY says, the only reason people still obsess over this is because of deep seeded racism.

horseploppy. The only reason I'm still interested at all is because I have a deep-seated disgust with Communists. Skin color be damned. Wouldn't have married an obviously mixed-race man otherwise.


Since its okay for racism and stereotyping, I'm going to do the same. Face it you racist ass, white trash, inbred, bible thumping #s, HE IS YOUR PRESIDENT AND HIS PLACE OF BIRTH IS NO LONGER A RELEVANT ISSUE. SHOULD HAVE FIGURED THIS STUFF OUT BEFORE HE WAS ELECTED.
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Yeha. That type voted against him, and they did have him figured out before then. This accusation was brought up before the election. Should know. I work the polls, and got to hear about it all before siting down to log everyone's vote



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by BillyBoBBizWorth
 


This just in folks: Breaking news in the field of genetics.
It has now been found that if your mother is white and your father is black you are asian.


*****Hes not even a actual black,look at his skin,hes from a asian country. ******
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Jaw dropping how racist and ignorant this is (hint - caucasian). But hey, let's face it we all know that is what all this birther stuff is about.....

Must admit I was very shocked to learn from the headline that Obama as a baby might have visited his grandmother in Kenya before returning home to Hawaii DUH!



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by CynicalDrivel

The Constitution hasn't been worht the paper it was written on from the perspective of the Government for at least 20 years--if not longer.



The US Constitution ended when Russia sent its Atlantic and Pacific Naval Fleets to Union Ports in the US Civil War.

You weren't taught about that in school were you? It was Russia who wanted slavery ended and pushed the Union North to end slavery....Lincoln didn't come up with it on his own....and they also didn't want "States Rights"..."Citizens Rights".

The whole Cold War was just a play. And that's why the US Constitution died.

( I wonder if Russia military fought Americans).......it would still be Classified if it was true.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
Oh, well hell.

If Miller4000 said it in a comments section on the web, and said comment was reported on a blog, then it must be true...
Pretty bulletproof evidence right there, where are you now, skeptics?!!



Hey Saturn
Still stalking you but from a distance and silently. LOL.
Why doesnt this kind of proof hold water in the UFO and Aliens forum? If this was proof, we'd be having dinner with the grays tonight. (and I dont mean Mr & Mrs Gray from down the street either.)



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by wcitizen

Originally posted by ManOfGod267
Does it really matter where Barack Obama was born? Heck! I bet many people believe he was created by aliens!


Does your Constitution matter to you?

Does your President's religious and political affiliations matter to you?

Does it matter to you if your President has lied to the country?

Does it matter to you if your President is committing treason?

It seems not.





Well of course all of those things matter. (with the exception of his religious affiliations that is) but these things are not and have not happened so whats the dither all about.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:41 AM
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I was taught that the Civil War started for other reasons than slavery, but once the north saw that not enough people were jumping on the bandwagon, they started with the freeing the slaves bit. I've always assumed that other countries want to influence ours because everyone I've talked to from another country has always insisted on giving me advice about how to run my country, like I was in charge or something.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by observe50
As for myself I believe he was born in Kenya but his mother was America so.............. I have read about his upbringing who he was taught by and his Russian interactions....I feel myself that he has been groomed since his birth to be where he is just look at the people he was groomed by.

As I see it he has already been Pres. for three years I don't think there is much that can bedone now and whatever is to be will be.



You've read that huh? Did that piece you read happen to start Once upon a time...because it should have.
Groomed from birth. Like a royal ? Gimmie a break already



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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While the specifics of who groomed him is a bit hard to swallow, politicians, in general, are groomed of the positions they get elected to. That's why Obama's cadence of speech and Hitler's are uncannily similar. (Whether he's emulating Hitler or not is irrelevant.) This is why most politicians are lawyers.



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by karen61057
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Well of course all of those things matter. (with the exception of his religious affiliations that is) but these things are not and have not happened so whats the dither all about.


Until the original birth certificate has been legally authenticated that's an opinion not a fact.
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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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slavery was ending anyway because the cotton gin was in and technology was the future. the only problem was where to send the slaves because no one wanted them.....some were sent to Belize but that wasn't going to fix the problem, so they devised Emancipation Proclamation, which really pissed off the south, they just wanted them gone....so there you have it and here we are....africas getting revenge through the half wit



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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I really get soooo... tired of hearing this.
Like it matters.
There soooo.... much more important things to worry about.
I could care less whether POTUS is born in US.
Look at all the people running for that job this year (with the exception of Ron Paul).
They were all born in the US and they all will sell this country to the highest bidder.
So tell me other than Dr. Paul how does it make a difference.
Don't say the constitution because you and i know it's a non entity now-days.

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posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
And for the third or fourth time now I've asked this in this thread - where are the Visa entry stamps on Obama Sr's Visa showing he was entering the country at the time Obama Jr was 5 month old and the time this alleged trip occurred? He was born in August, so 5 month later would be January 1962. No Visa stamp is shown on Obama Sr. The records for the Visas for Obama's mother and father were obtained by Heather Smathers of Arizona Independent. The Visa entries indicate that both were HERE, in the United States, at that time.

So for any of this to be true, there would be a Visa entry stamp in Obama Sr's Visa. There isn't. Not only would you have the entry stamp for the USA you would have the exit stamp for Kenya or wherever it is these ridiculous birthers keep insisting Barack was born.

All the birthers have in this thread is some email hoax claim that "some guy" on the Web (no name given) found some 50-year old flight logs that just happen to show the passenger manifest for Barack Obama's alleged flight into the USA. It's actually a new low for birtherdom, if anyone actually believes this claim then come to Brooklyn, I've got a bridge to sell you.

The real, and only, point of birther claims like this is to keep piling on insipid claims like this to affirm their already-established hatred of Obama and see how much traction these claims can get before they collapse under their own hubris. It's funny how the instant someone injects the slightest amount of fact-checking into these claims they literally vanish like a fart in the wind, only for some newer and even more ridiculous claim to come along, then it's start the process over again with another trip around the right-wing blogosphere then onto the 3rd-party conspiracy sites before the facts can come to light that squash it.



come on birthers, why do you keep ignoring this ^ which has been posted at least 4 times in this thread...the facts are clearly and precisely presented that what this thread was started about is not true....man up and respond to these facts



posted on Aug, 12 2011 @ 01:10 PM
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The other people would be hawaii state officials and on thr federaql level the #1 culprit would be Nancy Pelosi. She vouched that he was eleigible for the Democratic party candidacy. For everyone one here saying its a race issue or that it doesnt matter you are completely ignoring the facts about this man obama. Simple excuses like that are irresponsible. Its pretty obvious that "the left" has wrecklessly taken this country where it did not need to go while having their tracks covered by the leftist lapdog media. Blame bush all you want but dont forget the democrats were in complete control of the house and senate his last term so dont blame him too much. The leadership of nancy pelosi has crippled this country and show that the current democratic representation has an agenda that is completely against the will of the american people as a whole. Not needing a national budget, passing bills to find out whats in them, and shoving a job and growth killing partisan healthcare bill through the system while major red flags are raised is only the tip of the iceberg. The truth will come out.



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