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Originally posted by nik1halo
Originally posted by ljib777
reply to post by nik1halo
I never said that ALL war was created through religion, just that religion has caused death and pain throughout history, done in the name of "good", whereas hardly any injury has come from the so called satanists in comparison. I'm not saying either are right, I'm saying all are wrong.
The witch trials, the crusades, human sacrifices by the Aztecs etc, the Asian Caste systems, people being stoned to death for blasphemy or heracy, Buddist monks setting themselves on fire, the holocaust, the Taliban, female circumcision, the entire suppression of female rights throughout many religions and regions of the world. These are just a few examples of pain and suffering caused in the name of religion
[edit on 21-10-2009 by nik1halo]
Originally posted by Fromabove
reply to post by beefytee
Intolerance is not a bad word. It is a matter of conviction. I don't tolerate murder, hate, stealing, etc. Christians (the real ones) do not tolerate sin they convict it for what it is. Christians should never think intolerance is a bad thing. It leads to compromise and selling yourself to this present evil world.
The NUMBER 1 reason people hate Christianity is because they can't cope with a belief that requires them to have personal accountability for their actions.
Originally posted by ZenOnKwalsky
Originally posted by nik1halo
Originally posted by ljib777
reply to post by nik1halo
I never said that ALL war was created through religion, just that religion has caused death and pain throughout history, done in the name of "good", whereas hardly any injury has come from the so called satanists in comparison. I'm not saying either are right, I'm saying all are wrong.
The witch trials, the crusades, human sacrifices by the Aztecs etc, the Asian Caste systems, people being stoned to death for blasphemy or heracy, Buddist monks setting themselves on fire, the holocaust, the Taliban, female circumcision, the entire suppression of female rights throughout many religions and regions of the world. These are just a few examples of pain and suffering caused in the name of religion
[edit on 21-10-2009 by nik1halo]
Ok but why you and the likes of You try to put all the blame upon the Christianity...Catholic Church precisely. The witch hunts and the heretics killing was seemingly more frequent in the protestant religion. As for the Crusades: if you look deeper it was the war for survival of the Christian Europe. Do You really prefer to live in the world of Islam?! And it was that ugly, bad Crusaders that gave us (among the many others Christian Warriors)that last1000 years.
Originally posted by Mayan_Soul
reply to post by crmanager
There was no person named Jesus. Jesus or the Son is simply a metaphor for.. the Sun. All Christianity is is a sun worshiping religion. As a matter of fact it shouldn't even be called a "religion". So, no, Jesus never died on a cross. But yes, the sun does go down a degree every day of the year, creating the metaphor of "dieing". And no Judas did not kiss jesus to "identify" him. It is a metaphor for the time when the sun passes the Zodiac sign Scorpio. When a scorpion bites you it leaves two cuts which look like lips. Giving you the phrase "kiss of death". Then the sun continues to "fall", giving you the season "fall". Then the sun "falls to its death" in Capricorn. The sun remains at the exact same degree (the lowest point it gets through its cycle) for 3 days. Giving you the metaphor in the bible of Jesus being dead for 3 days. The sun then raises 1 degree on the 25th of december, giving you the "resurrection of Jesus".
Its all just a metaphor haha. Along with every other religion. All based on ancient astrology.
Originally posted by crmanager
Originally posted by blankduck18
reply to post by crmanager
This is a question only you can answer for yourself
You can not depend on the opinions of other people
You have to forget everything you were ever told since the day you were born
you have to research research research
And figure out things for yourself, You would be surprised. I keep getting new surprises myself everyday.
I am a christian, I do not follow the teaching I have learned through out my life.
The bible tells a story. Then man alters story into a new reality
Jesus says himself He is the son of man. Not they son of god
We turned him into the son of god.
All religions where made to separate people
We are all the same we all come from the same "god"
We all having living flesh maybe different colors
That does not change the fact we all have the same soul
[edit on 20-10-2009 by blankduck18]
[edit on 20-10-2009 by blankduck18]
You have a very odd understanding of Chrisianity as a self proclaimed Christianity.
Jesus was killed BECAUSE HE PROCALIMED HIMSELF the son of God.
You can put 4 whells on and call yourself a car, but that don't make you a car.
Originally posted by ZombieOctopus
Originally posted by crmanager
The Catholic Church is the largest provider of health care, AIDS care, housing in the world.
Since when did discouraging safe sex count as "care"? The Catholic church is more likely the largest contributor to the spread of AIDS world wide.
The other points are nearly as weak, but the AIDS one just makes my brain ache. Come on now.
Originally posted by notreallyalive
Originally posted by For(Home)Country
Originally posted by reasonable
I view christians ...
It's 'aight. You're in my prayers
... and so are your grandchildren
THAT is one of the most ignorant things Christians say! It is saying "your beliefs are wrong, my beliefs are right, and I will pray that you come to my truth."
Christians love saying this; ironic almost that they don't recognize it is painfully judgmental!
(but hey! At least you used correct grammar!)
[edit on 21-10-2009 by notreallyalive]
Originally posted by crmanager
Yet not a word about the flaws of Islam, or Hinduism or Paganism. Heck...Paganism is seen as the end all be all of the "truth" whatever the heck that is.
Originally posted by Angus123
Originally posted by crmanager
...
I am asking for non-liberal, non-America hating Christians to have a seat at the table of respect.
Oh that's priceless. If you're a liberal you're a non Christian America hater unworthy of a seat at the "table of respect."
Originally posted by Angus123
Originally posted by 12.21.12
reply to post by crmanager
You are so right. It was 19 Christians flying those planes on Sept 11. (Please don't go conspiracy...not the time or place.)
What in the world is that supposed to mean?
Cause if muslims attacked our country, that would be good enough reason to attack all muslims right?
Muslims simply will KILL YOU if you don't convert or pay tax.
Man that is scary.
You're exactly right. But the bible does instruct people to kill all non-believers.
And people who like shellfish, naughty children and gays to name a few.
So when christians rant about muslims being instructed to kill infidels they are conveniently ignoring their own holy book. After all, Islam and christianity both have their roots in judaism.
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by crmanager
For hundreds of years Christianity persecuted everyone and everything that disagreed with it. It bred war, famine, ignorance, racism, slavery and tyranny unimaginable today. Heresy was punishable by torture and death. And then, all of a sudden, Christianity tapered off and every Christian wanted to be your best friend.
After all those centuries of atrocity did you honestly believe Karma wasn't going to catch up? It was Jesus who said you Reap what you Sow, Christians sowed death and blood when they were supposed to teach peace, now they teach peace and in many places are faced by persecution.
I don't understand why it matters though when Jesus himself said Christians would be persecuted (not that I buy into all that, just saying). Why is it perceived as a threat if the Christian religion is put under scrutiny or questioned? Why should it damage someone's faith to use reason and logic to interpret religion? If God is real reason and logic should not be his enemy, science and knowledge should expand our knowledge of the "divine".
I find it odd how against Christians are to any questioning of their religion when their way is supposed to be the tough one, the narrow way, the path of greatest resistance. Do they believe God will punish them merely for the act of questioning their beliefs and what they were told to believe by men?
I suppose there are a few hardcore atheists around who want to kill religion once and for all but they are a minority, what good is faith left unchallenged? If anything faith left unchallenged would be monstrous, we'd still be living under tyrannical rule of some psuedoreligious dictator/King
Originally posted by Azuredrake
I haven't heard the entire thread because frankly I don't feel like sitting through 8 pages of drivel from people who don't know anything about Christianity other than what hate websites tell them. The NUMBER 1 reason people hate Christianity is because they can't cope with a belief that requires them to have personal accountability for their actions. This is evidenced by the fact that so many people quote the Bible in a negative light without knowing enough about the circumstances to resolve it properly. Also, anyone who says that Christians are the cause of soooooo many wars and horrors failed History 101.
This might get deleted because of the tone, but I don't care. I'm sick of seeing all the lies and filth from people who proffess to pursue "truth".