The desire to destroy Christianity

One's belief systems and personal inner-guidance are such intimate topics, its a wonder that we see fantastic and positive end results from butting heads over them. We must see this, or we couldn't engage as we do. This gravity towards good that joins almost all belief systems should have always been the point. It is so powerfully unifying that it's a struggle seeing such schisms between what began and is majority maintained(maybe not high up...) as a positive vision for the future.

Sense no make. As personal as it is, it is patently obvious we would all benefit from sincere and honest talks in depth about it with eachother. Especially those of us who seek to impose opposional thinking in. It is a wrench in the gears, it is long past the time to lose interest in satiating our immediate and surface reflex emotions and focus on something deeper. These conflicts could not survive such a pro-active and positive environment, and I'm pretty sure we all know it.

[edit on 2-11-2009 by Crane4]

reply to post by crmanager

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I'm not sure that's a fair understanding of why Jesus was killed. I think he was killed because he was a threat to the authority of the day. The parts of the gospels quoting Jesus as calling himself the Son of God weren't written until at least 30 years after his death. We can't say for certain Jesus said those words.

Jesus talked about compassion, forgiveness, sticking up for people who couldn't stick up for themselves - not about worship for him exclusively --- but worship for what he was trying to say we could all be apart of.

going gently,
G.

reply to post by stereovoyaged

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I'm not going to say you are wrong --- but that doesn't mean you should ignore what is at the heart of the messages in the religions.

reply to post by crmanager

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Why do christians here talk in short riddled sentences, as in the first 2 or so comments. There's nothing to destroy in christianity, nothing left to debunk, it's all bunk. If you choose to illogically believe those beliefs, then nobody controls your thought processes if it's your desire to continue believing. Just because people disagree with you should not affect your own beliefs if you truly believe you have the truth. Anything more than mild annoyance at other people's lack of belief can ONLY be because you question your beliefs.

Christianity and other religions have destroyed themselves by refusing to acknowledge anyone else's beliefs or lack of beliefs, as being equal to their own. Their self-righteous beliefs tell them to enforce others to believe or go to hell from the christian's perspective, and that is the root cause of their own demise. And then the christians blame the non-believers for their own problems, just because we prefer to use reason and logic! And if we dare to even open our mouths about using reason and logic, we suddenly desire to destroy them!!! HAHA!!! For all these years the attitudes of christians and other religions have towards each other and dis-believers are what destroy civilisations and cultures!

[edit on 2-11-2009 by john124]

You COMPLETELY misunderstood what my intention is...

Why are people so enthusiastic in the attempt to ridicule Christianity and in the end...destroy it?

I am asking for respectful conversation. I am NOT asking for you to believe or disbelieve.

What you call bunk I call a way of life, a calling and when you challenge it it does not make me challenge my belief system, it makes me doubt the humanity of people.

I am sure if Jesus returned with Grey Aliens at his side, he would think: "This world and especially Christians went haywire. It's not how it's supposed to be."

[edit on 3-11-2009 by sphinx551]

1st: Jesus returns with Grey's?

2nd: You know what God thinks?

3rd: Christianity is not the problem. The people who speak in "Gods name" such as you seem to be the speed bump on the road to peaceful coexistence. All Christians want is respect... not obedience, not a fight, not fear.

Where did I speak "in God's name"? I just spoke of a hypothetical situation. Stop insulting me.
I also was just stating my opinion.

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reply to post by sphinx551

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I am sure if Jesus returned with Grey Aliens at his side, he would think: "This world and especially Christians went haywire. It's not how it's supposed to be."

That is when you spoke in Gods name. Anytime one says "I'm sure he would think..." you are attempting to speak for another.

Relax. I want the same respect you deserve from me.

If I may ...

Respect is something that is earned - it is not an automatic right. So, while I understand that every person wants to be respected, only respectable people should be respected.

One can thus have respect for people's right to believe what they choose but one does not necessarily have to respect the person.

All manner of people have believed in and done certain things that, by generally accepted norms, are quite frightening and evil ... but we don't have to respect the person harboring those beliefs or committing those acts simply because they are exercising their right to do so.

Peace

[edit on 5/11/2009 by Psyagra]

reply to post by Psyagra

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Wow...

Is it really that hard to be respectful?

The U.S. catches a suspected terrorist they deserve respectful treatment. You see a person outside of an abortion clinic protesting they deserve respectful treatment. You have a person present a theory that is anathema to your belief they deserve respectful treatment.

Why is this so hard for people to follow? That is the point of this post.

crmanager, all right I will stop. I am not that religious anyways.

[edit on 5-11-2009 by sphinx551]