Originally posted by blankduck18
reply to post by crmanager

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This is a question only you can answer for yourself
You can not depend on the opinions of other people

You have to forget everything you were ever told since the day you were born
you have to research research research
And figure out things for yourself, You would be surprised. I keep getting new surprises myself everyday.
I am a christian, I do not follow the teaching I have learned through out my life.

The bible tells a story. Then man alters story into a new reality
Jesus says himself He is the son of man. Not they son of god
We turned him into the son of god.

All religions where made to separate people
We are all the same we all come from the same "god"
We all having living flesh maybe different colors
That does not change the fact we all have the same soul


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[edit on 20-10-2009 by blankduck18]

Originally posted by crmanager

Originally posted by blankduck18
reply to post by crmanager

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This is a question only you can answer for yourself
You can not depend on the opinions of other people

You have to forget everything you were ever told since the day you were born
you have to research research research
And figure out things for yourself, You would be surprised. I keep getting new surprises myself everyday.
I am a christian, I do not follow the teaching I have learned through out my life.

The bible tells a story. Then man alters story into a new reality
Jesus says himself He is the son of man. Not they son of god
We turned him into the son of god.

All religions where made to separate people
We are all the same we all come from the same "god"
We all having living flesh maybe different colors
That does not change the fact we all have the same soul


[edit on 20-10-2009 by blankduck18]

[edit on 20-10-2009 by blankduck18]

You have a very odd understanding of Chrisianity as a self proclaimed Christianity.

Jesus was killed BECAUSE HE PROCALIMED HIMSELF the son of God.

You can put 4 whells on and call yourself a car, but that don't make you a car.

Why is Chrisianity seemingly seen as the "Great Satan" in the world?

I am asking for non-liberal, non-America hating
Christians to have a seat at the table of respect.

Jesus was killed BECAUSE HE PROCALIMED HIMSELF the son of God

Originally posted by LordBucket
reply to post by crmanager

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Why is Chrisianity seemingly seen as the "Great Satan" in the world?

Because christians make a more regular nuisance of themselves in the united states than any other religious group. Mormons did not stand at the gates of my high school handing out bibles and threatening damnation. Muslims did not corner me at age 11 and tell me that I was going to burn in hell for all eternity if I didn't accept Jesus. No jew has ever invited me to a bible study group...two or three times a year for a decade. Hindus don't ask me to get on my knees and and accept Jesus as my personal savior on a regular basis.

And yet I have experienced all of these things from christians.

I am asking for non-liberal, non-America hating
Christians to have a seat at the table of respect.

Then put a leash on the wackos who run around screaming and frothing at the mouth, passing out bibles to children and telling the rest of us that we're going to burn for eternity in hell if we don't convert.

There's a fringe element that's ruining it for the rest of you.

Originally posted by crmanager

Originally posted by LordBucket
reply to post by crmanager

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Why is Chrisianity seemingly seen as the "Great Satan" in the world?

Because christians make a more regular nuisance of themselves in the united states than any other religious group. Mormons did not stand at the gates of my high school handing out bibles and threatening damnation. Muslims did not corner me at age 11 and tell me that I was going to burn in hell for all eternity if I didn't accept Jesus. No jew has ever invited me to a bible study group...two or three times a year for a decade. Hindus don't ask me to get on my knees and and accept Jesus as my personal savior on a regular basis.

And yet I have experienced all of these things from christians.

I am asking for non-liberal, non-America hating
Christians to have a seat at the table of respect.

Then put a leash on the wackos who run around screaming and frothing at the mouth, passing out bibles to children and telling the rest of us that we're going to burn for eternity in hell if we don't convert.

There's a fringe element that's ruining it for the rest of you.

You are so right. It was 19 Christians flying those planes on Sept 11. (Please don't go conspiracy...not the time or place.)

Muslims simply will KILL YOU if you don't convert or pay tax.

Jews don't want converts. Christians believe that it is GOOD to hear Gods word. I apologize for the 30 times over 10 years you were asked to bible study. My God...the horror you must have went through.

Hindus only want to live by themselves, you are right. That is why they have to fight off MUSLIM suicide bombers and a nuclear armed Pakistan.

And you say WE are frothing...

Originally posted by LordBucket
reply to post by crmanager

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Why is Chrisianity seemingly seen as the "Great Satan" in the world?

Because christians make a more regular nuisance of themselves in the united states than any other religious group. Mormons did not stand at the gates of my high school handing out bibles and threatening damnation. Muslims did not corner me at age 11 and tell me that I was going to burn in hell for all eternity if I didn't accept Jesus. No jew has ever invited me to a bible study group...two or three times a year for a decade. Hindus don't ask me to get on my knees and and accept Jesus as my personal savior on a regular basis.

And yet I have experienced all of these things from christians.

I am asking for non-liberal, non-America hating
Christians to have a seat at the table of respect.

Then put a leash on the wackos who run around screaming and frothing at the mouth, passing out bibles to children and telling the rest of us that we're going to burn for eternity in hell if we don't convert.

There's a fringe element that's ruining it for the rest of you.

Jesus is God's Son in that He was conceived in Mary by the Holy Spirit. Luke 1:35 declares, “The angel answered, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.’”

Later, before Pontius Pilate, “The Jews insisted, ‘We have a law, and according to that law He must die, because He claimed to be the Son of God’” (John 19:7).

THE BIBLE ON THE PROBLEM OF EVIL
Insights from Romans 3:1-8,21-26; 5:1-5; 8:28-39
by John M. Frame

For many today and throughout history, the problem of evil has represented the most serious objection to the Christian faith. Some very brilliant philosophers have thought that this problem conclusively refutes belief in the Christian God. But not only professors of philosophy — ordinary people, too, often feel this problem deeply. You don’t have to be a sophisticated philosopher to doubt the reality of God when a loved one is going through terrible suffering. At such times the “problem of evil” is not so much a learned argument as it is a simple cry of the heart, “How could a loving God allow this?”

That’s it, in a nutshell. The sophisticated philosophical version of the problem states the issue, usually, with a calmer spirit and a more precise vocabulary. But the philosopher doesn’t state the question any better; and insofar as the philosopher dilutes the passion of that heart-cry, he misses something important. So we’ll leave it at the simple level. To understand, to feel the problem of evil, think of some terrible tragedy that seems to have no positive value whatsoever: the genocide of Hitler, Stalin, or Pol Pot; a child suffering terrible pain as he slowly dies of cancer; an African baby dying of starvation. Think in such cases of how you too might cry out, almost involuntarily, “How could a loving God allow this?” You see, it’s not only unbelievers who cry out that way. Believers do too. There is something universally human about that cry. It’s almost a reflex. It’s something that goes very deep.

You are so right. It was 19 Christians flying those planes on Sept 11. (Please don't go conspiracy...not the time or place.)

Muslims simply will KILL YOU if you don't convert or pay tax.