Amazing interview heralds the beginning of disclosure? Whistleblower reveals.... + updates

Some interesting quotes from a Sufi to ponder:

“Behold how this drop of seawater
has taken so many forms and names;
it has existed as mist, cloud, rain, dew, and mud,
then plant, animal, and Perfect man;
and yet it was a drop of water
from which these things appeared.
Even so this universe of reason, soul, heavens, and bodies,
was but a drop of water in its beginning and ending.

. . He who sees by illumination
discerns God first in everything.
But he who sees by logic only,
and seeks to prove the necessary,
is bewildered and sometimes travels
backward in a circle, or is imprisoned
in a chain of proofs.
Fool! He seeks the dazzling sun
by the dim light of a candle in the desert.”
― Mahmud Shabistari

I should add that I am not religious and I think religion is an impediment to true consciousness, but I know there is a creator.

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a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Inspiring quotes but once again off topic.

If this is your philosophy I have to wonder why you are gushing over Hollywood doom porn peddlers like WIlcock and "Corey Goode."

They're probably pitching this to the Hysteria Channel as we speak. I can hear it now-- "Were these soldier sent back in time by giant blue penguins as some ancient astronaut researchers believe?"

2012 is long gone and they've exhausted every conceivable angle for the Ancient Astronaut franchise so they must be hungry for new content.

It's funny how the "alternative media" is the only area in the Google era where someone can materialize on the scene without being vetted at all and be taken at face value.

originally posted by: DelMarvel
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Inspiring quotes but once again off topic.

If this is your philosophy I have to wonder why you are gushing over Hollywood doom porn peddlers like WIlcock and "Corey Goode."

They're probably pitching this to the Hysteria Channel as we speak. I can hear it now-- "Were these soldier sent back in time by giant blue penguins as some ancient astronaut researchers believe?"

2012 is long gone and they've exhausted every conceivable angle for the Ancient Astronaut franchise so they must be hungry for new content.

It's funny how the "alternative media" is the only area in the Google era where someone can materialize on the scene without being vetted at all and be taken at face value.

I'm not sure of all your points but is this one - Alternative Media cannot be trusted - put your trust in Mainstream Media?

Should we not focus on the message on not the medium? Would you read something in the newspaper and say "I do not trust the paperstock on which these words were printed?

Would you watch something on TV and say "this TV belonged to my ex so I do not trust it"?

Isn't that what you are saying when you condemn alternate media because they haven't gotten everything 100% right?

We should trust the MSM because they gave us truthful reporting of the Kennedy Assassination, 9/11, faithfully investigate corrupt politicians and corporations, brainwash our kids........what Alternative media has gotten wrong pales in comparison to what the MSM has done to us and our society.......

BTW, when in this thread ever has doom been mentioned? Please provide proof......

I'm not allowed to go slightly off-topic in my own thread? Have you gone off topic in this thread? Anyway.....................those quotes were not off topic, they were related to consciousness......I guess you missed the point.

As I have said before this thread is about many topics which all link together - "Disclosure" will hopefully trigger an "awakening" which will lead to increased "consciousness" among many.

It will be great to learn about our true history and what is really going on now in the solar system and about ET's and ancient human civilizations. It will be great for the masses to receive certain high-tech such as energy and healthcare. It will be terrible to learn about the crimes committed against humanity - but this must be part of the process - enough secrets.

But all of this won't matter if there is not a general trend towards more consciousness which includes becoming more Service to Others, more loving, forgiving, compassionate.

Gaiam TV episode 10 - the Pineal Gland!

Very interesting episode!

A transcript of this episode will come out in a few days from THIS blog and also a show summary from the EXOPOLITICS website, so you do not need to spend any money.

However, Gaiam TV does have a lot of fabulous shows and areas such as yoga, consciousness, mysteries etc, you can sign up for one month for 99 cents then cancel if you are not enjoying the content.

When the transcripts and summaries are up I'll post them, for now I will tease you with a few things I remember from the show:

- there is tech which can possibly stimulate the pineal gland

- the Secret Space Programs (and many other secret groups) recognize the importance of the pineal gland

- some ancient human civilizations peoples have larger pineal glands than we do

- one race tried to engineer us with removed pineal glands, but another put it back in

- Tai chi can be an important exercise to help raise your consciousness

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: DelMarvel
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Inspiring quotes but once again off topic.

If this is your philosophy I have to wonder why you are gushing over Hollywood doom porn peddlers like WIlcock and "Corey Goode."

They're probably pitching this to the Hysteria Channel as we speak. I can hear it now-- "Were these soldier sent back in time by giant blue penguins as some ancient astronaut researchers believe?"

2012 is long gone and they've exhausted every conceivable angle for the Ancient Astronaut franchise so they must be hungry for new content.

It's funny how the "alternative media" is the only area in the Google era where someone can materialize on the scene without being vetted at all and be taken at face value.

I'm not sure of all your points but is this one - Alternative Media cannot be trusted - put your trust in Mainstream Media?

Should we not focus on the message on not the medium? Would you read something in the newspaper and say "I do not trust the paperstock on which these words were printed?

Would you watch something on TV and say "this TV belonged to my ex so I do not trust it"?

Isn't that what you are saying when you condemn alternate media because they haven't gotten everything 100% right?

Whoa! Massive strawman here.

Let's forget the term "alternative media" since we are actually talking about some media (like the "History" Channel) that is most definitely mainstream.

What I am saying is that where else these days would you have an information dump like this which is totally dependent on the credibility of the witnesses without ANY vetting at all? If there is any objective reporting whatsoever on "James Corey Goode" please send me the link as I have found none.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
BTW, when in this thread ever has doom been mentioned? Please provide proof.......

Once again, what I specifically said was that Goode and Wilcock are doom peddlers.

Let's see. Spending 30 seconds at a link in your OP I find Goode saying:

In my report to Davide about this "Zombie Virus" it did include that it was engineered to cause people to bleed from their gums and finger nails and also cause aggressive biting and scratching from brain swelling and other neurological issues that was meant to help the virus to spread to loved ones trying to take care of them.

Real positive vibrations there. Especially as it's all Bull*****.

I'm sure there is much more like this but I don't feel like wading through this crap.

a reply to: DelMarvel

It is true they mentioned a "zombie virus" but I didn't include it in the thread because a) it was one of the more extremely speculative topics which didn't seem to have corroboration from any other source that I had read, unlike many of the other topics, b) I'm trying to stay away from doom porn in this thread, and have managed to do so up until your post.

So I stand by the statement that I have not talked about doom in this thread. And they briefly mentioned it at all, maybe spent one minute tops out of many hours so far, their main message is about raising one's consciousness, becoming more service to others, forgiving, loving, compassionate - this is the majority of the message no one is disputing that except maybe you. Are you watching the right videos?

So they may touch on some doom, but calling them "doom peddlers" is a gross mischaracterization and I think you are aware of that.

Corey, the whistleblower discusses many interesting topics, such as the 5-7 ancient terrestrial races that are still kicking around either in space or way underground, the many ET races, some of which are benevolent, some are malevolent, and some are ambivalent, of course one of the prominent topics is the 5 main Secret Space programs - and which one is trying to overthrow the secret rulers of Earth, high technology, space technology, the Pineal gland, the Sun; but through it all he emphasizes again and again the main message:

Every day focus on becoming more “Service To Others” oriented. Focus on being more “Loving” and “Focus on raising your Vibrational and Consciousness Level” and to learn to “Forgive Yourself and Others” (Thus “Releasing Karma”). This will change the Vibration of the Planet, The “Shared Consciousness of Humanity” and “Change Humanity One Person at a time” (Even if that “One Person” is yourself.). They say to treat your body as a temple and change over to a “Higher Vibrational Diet” to aid in the other changes. This sounds to many like a “Hippy Love and Peace” message that will not make a difference. I assure you the “Path” they lay out in “Their Message” is a difficult one. Even on the unlikely chance that these technologies stay “Suppressed”, imagine what a world we would live in if everyone made these changes to their selves?

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If you would like to focus on something I didn't even bring up and that is hardly mentioned in the grand scheme of things that is your choice of course, but you should think about the old adage about whatever polarity imbues one is what one will be attracted to.

Here is more on the latest episode where the importance of the pineal gland is mentioned, big surprise there given all the ancient symbolism of the "pine cone" that exists, which is a clear symbol/metaphor for the pineal gland. Or else the ancients just loved pine cones!

Pineal symbology in ancient art and architecture:



From the article:

Goode described how stimulation of the pineal gland was identified by the secret space programs as the key to personnel developing powerful psychic abilities. He says that after stimulation of the pineal gland, a variety of psychic abilities such as out of body travel and teleportation were developed using what he described as a person’s “light body”:

Goode’s account of psychic abilities being harnessed for both positive and negative purposes corroborates the testimony of another secret space program whistleblower. Michael Relfe, who went public with his testimony in 2000 with publication of The Mars Records, claims to have served for 20 years on Mars after having his psychic abilities enhanced through genetic alterations conducted by extraterrestrials. The alien abductions, which occurred during his youth, were closely monitored by the U.S. Navy. In 1976, Relfe enlisted in the Navy and soon after was recruited for covert service on Mars until 1996, when he was age-regressed and sent back in time to 1976.

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Here are some other great member threads on the pineal gland and related symbology:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Interesting stuff on the pineal gland. Although, Coorey Goode still has not proved himself to be anything other than a man with unprovable exciting stories. If he really wanted respect from UFO ppl and a lot more attention he would find a way to get real evidence, especially since he claims to be in contact with ETs.

originally posted by: blueman12
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Interesting stuff on the pineal gland. Although, Coorey Goode still has not proved himself to be anything other than a man with unprovable exciting stories. If he really wanted respect from UFO ppl and a lot more attention he would find a way to get real evidence, especially since he claims to be in contact with ETs.

I would have to agree partially, that would help, but then again the overwhelming amount of his info, in terms of depth and breadth and time lines is partial proof in itself. We are not talking about one sighting or one abduction. We are talking about hundreds of encounters over the years with the Secret Space Program, the technology, and various ET and ancient human civilization groups. He has over six hours of interviews, each with vastly different information on Gaiam TV and provided for free in the transcripts and summaries which I have provided for in links.

He would have to be a professional actor to memorize so much - he is clearly not that comfortable talking about it or even comfortable talking in front of a camera - how do you reconcile that?

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

More assumptions you don't have to be a proffesional actor to have a good memory and many people look and feel uncomfortable in front of a camera.

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

I agree a little.. He has slightly more credibility than an autonomous person posting their UFO stories on a thread because he is willing to show his identity. He also has a lot of "information" that he has prepared and talked about.

However, like the person said above this post, it does not take a professional actor to memorize so much. J. R. R. Tolkien, the author of the hobbit and lord of the rings, created an entire mythology from his passionate imagination. He could have probably talked on camera about everything within "Middle Earth" for hours.

Coorey Goode could have done the same thing, especially considering that there was already vast amounts of UFO stories out there before he started making videos and talking.

I want to believe this guy too, but I just can't. Being a "nice" guy, acting humble, and sharing his idenity does not automatically make his stories credible.

"4,247 People Talking About This" on his facebook page "Sphere Being Alliance". That is 4,247 possible people buying subscriptions to GIAMtv, which I am sure he gets a cut of. Also, some of those people may buy his shirts, mugs and ect. from his store.
This could all go to his efforts to support his whistle-blowing and truth spreading journey, or it could go to him making money off his extraterrestrial / UFO imagination-land life story that he created.

a reply to: blueman12

So how does that explain Randy Cramer, ex-special section marine, talking about the same things, and he is not on Gaiam TV, selling t-shirts or mugs?



So we can't believe anyone who goes on TV or has anything commercial associated with their works? Don't believe people like Wayne Dyer, Eckhart Tolle, Tony Robbins etc - we can't believe any spiritual or self-motivational message if there is anything commercial associated with it?

I think it would be logical folly to believe all are true or all are false. We have to evaluate each message on its own merits.

I think many of these people feel they have an important message to get out, and would like to do it for free, but what are they supposed to do - pitch a tent in the woods and live there? Eckhart Tolle was essentially homeless for two years in Vancouver while pondering what he had learned.

Definitely some people just want to make some money, but some people have an important message as well.

I love the faux outrage of many people about these potentially earthshattering and important messages when there is so much manipulative crap on TV and through the MSM that is purely commercial and extremely manipulative, yet we don't hear you railing against that.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: blueman12

So how does that explain Randy Cramer, ex-special section marine, talking about the same things, and he is not on Gaiam TV, selling t-shirts or mugs?

So we can't believe anyone who goes on TV or has anything commercial associated with their works? Don't believe people like Wayne Dyer, Eckhart Tolle, Tony Robbins etc - we can't believe any spiritual or self-motivational message if there is anything commercial associated with it?

I think it would be logical folly to believe all are true or all are false. We have to evaluate each message on its own merits.

I think many of these people feel they have an important message to get out, and would like to do it for free, but what are they supposed to do - pitch a tent in the woods and live there? Eckhart Tolle was essentially homeless for two years in Vancouver while pondering what he had learned.

Definitely some people just want to make some money, but some people have an important message as well.

I love the faux outrage of many people about these potentially earthshattering and important messages when there is so much manipulative crap on TV and through the MSM that is purely commercial and extremely manipulative, yet we don't hear you railing against that.

Love Randy's story as well as the many others. . . . .
Some people will deny no matter what, because they live in a bubble, if something exists outside of that bubble they have to deny its existance because thier comfort zone is within the bubble. Lets not forget we are in infinate space and tiime where anything and everything is very possible.

Try not to dwell on the naysayers, but instead discuss the topic and what it may mean for the future of the human race.

a reply to: FormOfTheLord

Thank you FormOfTheLord.

I have no problem with people disagreeing and/or wanting to discuss these issues. We cannot take everyone at their word. We must move as a people from "beliefs" to "knowledge", where the former is just based on faith and the latter more on personal experience.

What I have a problem with is two types of posters.

First type, these supposed revelations hugely threaten their current belief systems and they react nastily - that is just ego, these types need to first recognize then minimize their egos - some say the only true spiritual practice (due to the concomitant beginning/increase in one's consciousness).

Second type. If some or all of this information is true, then it has been heavily suppressed through all aspects of society, MSM, science, governmental, educational, religious. Many lies, confusion and misinformation has been sown.

This is considered one of the biggest spiritual sins (allegedly), those involved won't be "punished" in the afterlife, but will suffer upon recognition of the harm they have done. Not to mention possible legal action when disclosure moves from the "soft" phase it is in now to being full blown.

Obviously some of those people could be on here........deceiving mankind.......denying people their birthright.........keeping humanity down.........I have an issue with garbage such as those.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
a reply to: blueman12

So how does that explain Randy Cramer, ex-special section marine, talking about the same things, and he is not on Gaiam TV, selling t-shirts or mugs?

Are you kidding? How about phrasing it the way it really is----"What explains Goode talking about the same things Cramer already publicly talked about?"

That's easy. Goode read and heard Cramer's story before he came up with his own. Goode even talks about knowing Eve Lorgen who helped generate Cramer's story using hypnosis.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE
First type, these supposed revelations hugely threaten their current belief systems and they react nastily - that is just ego, these types need to first recognize then minimize their egos - some say the only true spiritual practice (due to the concomitant beginning/increase in one's consciousness).

So, the only two explanation for questioning this unproven and completely implausible fairytale is that one is spiritually inadequate or working for the conspiracy?

a reply to: DelMarvel

Sure, Corey could be familiar with Randy Cramer's info, and just be elaborating on it. I will admit that, can you admit the possibility that it might be true?

However I doubt that to be the case as some of their info overlaps but much doesn't, I don't think Gaiam TV would be doing 50+ 1/2hr or more episodes if they thought Corey was just making up stories. When the truth came out it would ruin them.

I'm fine with having a discussion on these points, dissecting them, analyzing them - with posters that are open to the possibility. If you are not even open to the possibility then I'm not going to bother.

I believe I said I enjoy discussing these topics with posters.

The ONLY times I don't enjoy discussing these topics with other posters is when they are so heavily invested in their belief systems that different info is a huge threat to their ego and they are nasty; or people which are paid to suppress this info, which if this info is true obviously exist.

So let me ask again if you think any of this has even the remotest possibility?

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

I agree with the Brit.
I have been studying the situation since the 60s I THINK I pretty much got MOST of the video already on other groups.
It's time for action...LONG passed actually.
I NEVER bought the Brookings report at all,I also bellieve murders both terrestrial and extraterrestrial and happening mostly to childern involving other civilizations.
Time to show up and start talking,if they are so advanced they can EASILY compensate for our spitritual misalignment AND stop our hardware.

Here's my view on disclosure. I don't see it resulting in the change that it is advertising. This is a typicial deus ex machina and it's going to save us all. It's not realistic.

And about this awakening and higher vibrations. What does that even mean? Sometimes I wonder if these ET are even aware of current events on this planet. We're facing some of the biggest challenges ever. We barely manage to keep the peace and help those who live in sub-human conditions. Countries being ruled medieval style, millions basically dying slowly right now. Terrible record of constant violence and environmental neglect. We all see the picture.

Forget the ETs, the stories and whos telling them. I'm all for progression and reaching a higher level. But we cannot proceed without a proper foundation. If you think we can reach zen with others suffering and/or rampaging around you will be disappointed. And I do believe this is what it should be about, if anything

originally posted by: Jubei42
Here's my view on disclosure. I don't see it resulting in the change that it is advertising. This is a typicial deus ex machina and it's going to save us all. It's not realistic.

And about this awakening and higher vibrations. What does that even mean? Sometimes I wonder if these ET are even aware of current events on this planet. We're facing some of the biggest challenges ever. We barely manage to keep the peace and help those who live in sub-human conditions. Countries being ruled medieval style, millions basically dying slowly right now. Terrible record of constant violence and environmental neglect. We all see the picture.

Forget the ETs, the stories and whos telling them. I'm all for progression and reaching a higher level. But we cannot proceed without a proper foundation. If you think we can reach zen with others suffering and/or rampaging around you will be disappointed. And I do believe this is what it should be about, if anything

It is all related. Allegedly some of these ET's feed off negative emotions and fear, no surprise if you have watched MSM news recently. The supposed human "rulers" of Earth, in the background behind the heads of state, military and corporate leaders, do not care about the unwashed masses.

This message is that we are all connected, consciousness and ego. Minimize our ego, raise our consciousness, and we will gradually lose the negative personality traits such as greed, anger, hate, envy etc.

By raising the consciousness of the mass of humanity, many will become more service to others, more love, compassion, forgiveness; these problems will begin to be addressed and solved. More people will care about a starving, dying child somewhere in the world than about some stupid reality tv show or their next vacation.

So this could be the beginning of the end of the world's problems.........but we humans must do it:

Every day focus on becoming more “Service To Others” oriented. Focus on being more “Loving” and “Focus on raising your Vibrational and Consciousness Level” and to learn to “Forgive Yourself and Others” (Thus “Releasing Karma”). This will change the Vibration of the Planet, The “Shared Consciousness of Humanity” and “Change Humanity One Person at a time” (Even if that “One Person” is yourself.). They say to treat your body as a temple and change over to a “Higher Vibrational Diet” to aid in the other changes. This sounds to many like a “Hippy Love and Peace” message that will not make a difference. I assure you the “Path” they lay out in “Their Message” is a difficult one. Even on the unlikely chance that these technologies stay “Suppressed”, imagine what a world we would live in if everyone made these changes to their selves?

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Q & A #8:

Positive 6th and higher Density beings will discourage followers, religions, cults or the people they are speaking through as presenting themselves as "Guru's". They will work to teach you that you need to find the answers within. There are no light forces coming to save you. There are no ascended masters or ET's that are going to come down and end the rule of the "Elite" and change the world. Beings of this level are going to encourage us to make these changes ourselves and to become apart of the process.

The moment a so called whistleblower comes forth, tells his tale, and then surreptitiously asks for donations, all they say is bullcrap as far as I'm concerned. I know a lot of you don't agree with this notion, and that is absolutely fine with me, it is just the way I see it. To me, this has become the new sci-fi storytelling modus operandi, for those people who can't be bothered to write one of those bogus 'this really happened, guys!' kind of book. He (like many others) is selling his story including a great deal of the most talked about/popular alien and conspiracy themes, and that's all it is - a story, made up and completely unfounded on anything but his word. No proof.

And that's me not even getting into the ridiculous claims of his so called 'intuitive empathetic' supposed abilities, the completely unreasonable action by this "organization" to simply give away all of this information to seemingly randomly individuals, even a child in his case, and so on and so forth. All of that is meaningless because this is nothing but fiction. Interesting fiction, yes, but fiction nonetheless.