Ron Paul A Distaster For The USA. Hes Always Wrong. Why Is There So Much Love For Him ? Wrong Paul

Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
When I see bait, I mean threads, like this,
I think several things,
1-very young and inexperienced writer.
2-bored and just posting to cause trouble.
3-collecting a paycheck and reaching the quota.
4-a litmus test to gauge response and record data.

Yes sir, those are my thoughts when I come across morsels like these.

All are wrong. Simply because i have shown you and Paul to be wrong does not mean that I am trying to do anything with alternative motives.

Originally posted by miconATSrender

Originally posted by gorgi
No one is forcing anyone to take drugs. The government should be in charge of health care and not private companies. Companies are out for profit, not ones health.

Wars are bad, but if there needs to be one, make it big.

I think they are forcing us to take drugs.
How about the fluoride+ in our tap water.
GMO foods
Aspartame
Just saying bro.

No one is forcing you to drink tap water, Eat Gmo Foods or use aspartame. Its called choice. Just get something else.

I would rather have some man in the office who has our countrys well being at heart and makes mistakes, than to have high-classed, criminals that know exactly what they are doing........anyday.

Originally posted by gorgi

Originally posted by HappilyEverAfter
When I see bait, I mean threads, like this,
I think several things,
1-very young and inexperienced writer.
2-bored and just posting to cause trouble.
3-collecting a paycheck and reaching the quota.
4-a litmus test to gauge response and record data.

Yes sir, those are my thoughts when I come across morsels like these.

All are wrong. Simply because i have shown you and Paul to be wrong does not mean that I am trying to do anything with alternative motives.

Careful. You haven't proven anyone wrong simply put forth an alternate opinion.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by gorgi

 

So.........the bottom line here is that everything Ron Paul would do would ruin our economy?

And..............................how is that different from all the things the other guys are doing, even if you are right?

I think the bottom line here is that people want someone honest, someone who actually cares for the US, and someone who is willing to take the difficult positions despite the political costs. He is that person, no matter how you feel about whether or not his strategy will work.

The tired and true strategy is turning America into a broke, economically ruined police state. And Im supposed to worry about what Paul is going to do?

what a perfect reply , instead of a comment of my ill use a quote!!!

Originally posted by LexiconRiot

Originally posted by parrothead0333
reply to post by gorgi

 

I just wanted to say you are entitled to you opinion but just a couple things in response.

1. The Federal Reserve is not a body of government! Its holding our country hostage and is the number one reason why our dollar is collapsing and the price of everything is skyrocketing.

2. You really believe the DHS is protecting us? All they are doing is taking away our freedoms in the name of protecting us from harm. I am sorry but we do have a military and I can protect myself if need be. DHS is just another unnecessary government agency.

3. The IRS are a bunch of thugs that seek to simply get somebody for making a mistake on their taxes and then charging interest and penalties so they can take more and more money. The IRS needs to be abolished or in the very least their needs to be a fair tax and the IRS can only collect that and prosecute those that intentionally avoid paying their taxes.

The fact that you see the police state in everything scares me. The IRS is a necessary evil. One that needs more funding to go after those corps like GE that are able to turn a profit and still get a Tax return. How is this not obvious? Making a mistake happens and that is fine but there are far more cheats and people attempting to skirt taxes all together then there are mistakes.

You do know what a capital loss is right? GE was able to right off previous capital loses and thats why they did it. Nothing Illegal and its a smart idea to have a rule like that.

Wrong indeed...

Ron Paul is exactly the kind of wildcard needed to split the conservative vote, and help Obama win reelection.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by Janky Red

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
I mean really I don't think it can get much worse than what we have been having the last 50 years or so.

Well here is the rub

Can you tell us which nation of people has more power?

More influence?

More wealth?

In the last 50 America became the super power...

I agree with what you are saying but that is only because capitalism was allowed to flourish in america.

Corporatism started off with central and western european market socialism but could not prosper enough thanks to "big government" of those days. Someone always has the upper hand in any eco-political system and in america its corporations and wealthy people.

The problem is corporations have become to powerful in america during this period and not only threaten america and europe but the entire world. There needs to be checks and balances within any system and although that was the case 15-20 years since WW2 corporations through "freedom of speach"(lobbying) have rendered government practically as useless fanboys/cheerleaders. Anti-trust laws are practically meaningless thus we are seeing the development of multinational conglomerates rulling the WTO and bilderberg group.

Do you think its a coincidence so many people were against WTO? Unbalanced trade has lead to crony capitalism and weak governments the world over, as well as reduced taxation and job insecurity.

So america is great in terms of military strength and good paying professional jobs but for everyone else its becoming a living nightmare. The middle class is being reduced to poverty. Its becoming more and more obvious each year imo!

To block corporations form having to much power there is such things as anti trust laws and monopoly laws and they need to be in forced. With out government intervention then these mega monopolies would have free power to do what ever they want.

So when it comes to freedom of speech and petition, you like to pick and choose who can say what to whom? That seems very unconstitutional. Denying people the right to lobby is unconstitutional.

People like being against the WTO because people like being against stuff rather than for it most of the time.

Originally posted by TKDRL
I am not sure why I am even bothering with this thread.... Look what our retarded public education produces here. We are in big trouble, and I thought education was bad when I was in school. I was constantly teaching my teachers, even back then, when they spouted liberally slanted nonesense and called it history. I am glad others have tried to explain to people who might not know all that much, just how wrong this OP is. He hasn't even began campaigning yet really, and already people are spewing BS, he must really scare people I guess.

Yeah I should have gone to ITT tech or some other BS for profit college like you ?
What scares me is that people believe hat he says as fact.

Originally posted by eLPresidente
Why the hell are you people still here trying to convince brand new members who came here for the sole purpose of invoking doubt?

Don't look at the monster and it will go away.

Yup I have nothing better to do than make random accounts and then attack Ron Paul.

Yeah excellent strategy, if I dont see it, it doesnt exist.

Originally posted by gorgi

Originally posted by LexiconRiot

Originally posted by parrothead0333
reply to post by gorgi

 

I just wanted to say you are entitled to you opinion but just a couple things in response.

1. The Federal Reserve is not a body of government! Its holding our country hostage and is the number one reason why our dollar is collapsing and the price of everything is skyrocketing.

2. You really believe the DHS is protecting us? All they are doing is taking away our freedoms in the name of protecting us from harm. I am sorry but we do have a military and I can protect myself if need be. DHS is just another unnecessary government agency.

3. The IRS are a bunch of thugs that seek to simply get somebody for making a mistake on their taxes and then charging interest and penalties so they can take more and more money. The IRS needs to be abolished or in the very least their needs to be a fair tax and the IRS can only collect that and prosecute those that intentionally avoid paying their taxes.

The fact that you see the police state in everything scares me. The IRS is a necessary evil. One that needs more funding to go after those corps like GE that are able to turn a profit and still get a Tax return. How is this not obvious? Making a mistake happens and that is fine but there are far more cheats and people attempting to skirt taxes all together then there are mistakes.

You do know what a capital loss is right? GE was able to right off previous capital loses and thats why they did it. Nothing Illegal and its a smart idea to have a rule like that.

Nothing smart about it. It is an abuse. Maybe you are the shill some think you are...

Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by gorgi

 

He wants to fix things and if you cant see that I dont know what else to tell you...the federal reserve is the reason were in debt so much...who really cares if we can print all the money we want we never have to cut spending. The IRS is a joke...Fema when do they even actually help people there always late responding to disasters...I give him credit for thinking the OLD way I hope he destroys all these companies and everything else that falls with it and put the people BACK IN POWER sh|t we are in power you all just dont realize it

You do know that the Fed did not make the budget to cause a deficit. It is congress that does.
The IRS is important. It collects the tax money for the US government..

Originally posted by Evanzsayz
reply to post by gorgi

 

lol you got owned by backinblack ive never seen that many stars before...I guess the majority of people on here disagree with you

I do not care about stars. I would if i could cash them in for some money. I wrote this to better inform some people. I do not think that I am doing well.

Originally posted by Evanzsayz
Everyone on here need to vote for Paul 2012 Obama is scared that hes goin to lose the election so he had to bring the already "dead" guy on the table for the public to get a boost...its either goin to be Obama or Paul yall better vote for paul

Save that conspiracy for another thread please.

Originally posted by DoesAnythingEverHappen
reply to post by gorgi

 

Capitalism doesn't work? Go take a look at the worlds poverty rates and GDP since it's inception...

Capitalism works. I do not doubt that.

reply to post by hillynilly

While Paul may have good ideas,

there is no way he would ever beat Obama in 2012 election.

In 2008 you would have been correct but I do think Paul has a very good chance unless the Repubs manage to field Jesus Christ himself.

Sarah Palin, is a light weight and I can not see her as even a VP, Don Trump??? you have to be kidding! Chris Christie??? Who's he? ANOTHER LAWYER? - I hate lawyers!

As far as Obama goes, I think he has lost his "shine" for a lot of people.

His appointing Gene Sperling head of the National Economic Council, William Daley as Chief of Staff and to top it off, General Electric CEO Jeffery Immelt as head of the newly created Council on Jobs and Competitiveness, is going to tick off a lot of people who bother to find out about this trio of traitors who orchestrated the loss of millions of American jobs under Clinton. linky

The big question of course is whether the GOP will let Ron Paul split the race three ways again. He is what lost them the race last time and he has a heck of a lot larger following now compared to 2008.

One of the big factors that can not be controlled is the weather and what will happen to our food supply for this winter. High unemployment combined with high food prices and empty selves is NOT going to help Obama.

Food Riots 2011: World On Verge Of Major Food Crisis

The stunningly violent food riots in Tunisia and Algeria show just how quickly things can change. Just a few months ago, these two northern Africa nations were considered to be very stable, very peaceful and without any major problems.....

...According to the FAO, the global price of food hit a new record high in December. For most Americans and Europeans, a rise in the price of food is just an inconvenience. But in many areas of the world, even a relatively small rise in the price of food can mean that the survival of millions is suddenly threatened.

Global authorities are concerned that these food riots might start spreading – especially if the extremely harsh weather all over the globe continues to damage crops.

In fact, there are some signs that economic unrest is already beginning to spread….

What about the USA Strategic Grain Reserve?

reply to post by MajorKarma


There is nothing unconstitutional about the Fed. Show me how it is please and I will apologize.

Gorgi...Buddy...here's the deal:

America has been swindled by some very intelligent people that know how to manipulate the population into (almost) complete brainwash/submission. - FACT

99% of the politicians that are candidates to make a change in this country - ONLY CARE ABOUT VOTES! - FACT What does that mean???

100% of those 99% flip flop on their opinions - EX. - Waterboarding is popular one day, the next it's not - FACT

Meaning: If people are "Pro War" one minute - those douchebags will avoid any real questions and use 9/11 as an excuse OK SO....

That also means if people want our troops to get the "F" out of all the wars we are in - "They" flip the story and say they were down with anti war since day one : Sounds like a "Fake" highschool biiatch to me

This is a "Weak Canidate"!!! - Not to mention Government Intervention has not even played a part yet!

Ron Paul on the other hand, has stood his ground since day one!!! He's told us about the problem/cause/effect/damage etc. This dude is not backing down on what he feels is right!!! HE DOES NO FLIP FLOP. Not to mention, his reasoning/warnings have been 100% correct so far!!

I personally love his values: He's a Family Man, He's a Doctor, He's got a Solution, and he most certainly stands by his word!!! I suppose you could say the same about some other peeps right?


I'm not even gonna get into Constitutionality and the Federal Reserve - as many members have already pointed out graciously!! : )

What I want you to realize is: Ron Paul is actually your best friend!! He's America's best hope without the "Greed & Money" attached. He wants to FIX THINGS. I know you may have a pre-conceived judgement about the guy - BUT...PLEASE!!!...open your mind for a minute and look at all the evidence we have presented you with?!?!?!

If we didn't care and believe in true change...we wouldn't argue the point

- best of luck buddy!

Originally posted by gorgi

Originally posted by miconATSrender

Originally posted by gorgi
No one is forcing anyone to take drugs. The government should be in charge of health care and not private companies. Companies are out for profit, not ones health.

Wars are bad, but if there needs to be one, make it big.

I think they are forcing us to take drugs.
How about the fluoride+ in our tap water.
GMO foods
Aspartame
Just saying bro.

No one is forcing you to drink tap water, Eat Gmo Foods or use aspartame. Its called choice. Just get something else.

One wouldn't think that you are familiar with the word "choice" since you espouse a government model so against that word. Interesting.

/TOA

All I can say is to this post is.............nafugenshiener. Yep, made up word for another disinformation agent. Truly, Ron Paul is the only person with skilled political acumen that can bring true change to our government. No other choice is better.