If you came with me, you wouldn't have to sleep in a sleeping bag or in a cave, dg. Trust me on that.

But I liked your idea of sitting by a campfire on a remote island better. Just like one of those Corona commercials.

This is a most fascinating website. I can read the most outlandish stories, predictions and interpretations of reality.....paranoia runs rampant, delusions of grandeur is common place and schizophrenia is a mainstay. Its freakin awesome!!!!

[edit on 20-7-2007 by princeofpeace]

Originally posted by section8citizen
"waking" the people up is not as easy as it sounds. I have had arguments with friends, co-workers, etc about my views on this very topic. As well as 9-11, income tax, etc etc. The fact is a lot of people just don't "see" it. They do not believe there is a possibility that the US will become a police state. They simply do not believe it and it is beyond their comprehension and vision.

It is sad really. Most will not understand what is happening until it actually happens, and by then it will be way too late.

I get the exact same thing, everyone seems too blind to see things as they really are. It actulay sadens me to see this though, that people just dont suspect the government in doing things like this. People are already too brainwashed.

-fm

Originally posted by princeofpeace
This is a most fascinating website. I can read the most outlandish stories, predictions and interpretations of reality.....paranoia runs rampant, delusions of grandeur is common place and schizophrenia is a mainstay. Its freakin awesome!!!!

well once you are done proof-reading all your old posts read some of the other posts here..it gets better.

I for one think its a great idea that the president be in total power in case of a national emergency. Someone has to be in charge to prevent anarchy and for continuity of government and it may be hard to convene 500 members of congress if the emergency is severe enough. Who do you want to be in charge? The governors of each of the individual 50 states?

Semper, nice, you were able to use an ad hominem attack on an entire group of people. How come you always come up with the same rhetoric of "lefttists don't use their brains, just emotions, etc.?"

There you go again.... Acting with emotion instead of fact..

I simply explained and defined one segment of the population and your response is of course emotional in an outcry of "ATTACK."

Is not your post an attack on my post? Using the same criteria of course...
But that does not work here does it? The double standard is in effect. If I DEFEND a Conservative view, I am of course ATTACKING the left/socialist, but if you DEFEND the left/socialist you are of course NOT ATTACKING me..

In essence I am not allowed to defend Conservatism, comment on liberalism, give my view on socialism or any other Right Wing Conservative comment without being called an attack.

Yet you on the left are allowed to..

1. Write books defining how to KILL THE PRESIDENT
2. Routinely call the Commander in Chief HORRIBLE names
3. Attack a Conservative at will
4. Cheer on the Terrorist attempt to kill the Vice President
5. Create a WEB BLOG to encourage #4
6. Call for the surrender of our brave troops
on and on and on

Yet any comment, a simple posting of my opinion on here, is labeled an attack..

Shame on the double standard. I expect it in the general populace, but on here one anticipates a higher level... Oh well..

Perhaps FL it is because all that the left on here ever does is go on and on about how blind we Conservatives are, how we are sheeple and predicting the doom of the planet and the end to our civilization...

The facts that you are looking for me to provide are all around you. The left has been predicting the downfall of the nation as long as there have been Republicans, and look what we have.. The greatest economic boom in modern history.. FACT

The lefties have been wearing the placard of doom in the streets as long as the Republicans have been in office, ANYWHERE, and look at the FACTS... NO POLICE STATE... Election process proceeding nicely, no matter what nut jobs claim is corrupt, FACT

So the act of ignoring the FACTS is a long and respectful process for the left. As far as the left having a socialist agenda, what else would you call the end of Capitalism, Free Enterprise regulating by a HUGE government and the end of free speech?

Sounds Socialist to everyone I know..

Semper

{edit for spelling}

[edit on 7/21/2007 by semperfortis]

Originally posted by princeofpeace
Who do you want to be in charge? The governors of each of the individual 50 states?

For your history class, We are a Repubic or at least we were until Democracy or the Definition of Democracy imply that the Republic is not necessary any more..

Yes each state is represented on their own. by their people.

Yes we are a republic comprised of the 50 states but anyone who tells you that the governor of your state has any "real" power is lying to you.

[edit on 21-7-2007 by princeofpeace]

I dont know why so many folks are pushing this conspiracy for the US to become a police state. That would totally contrdict our push fro worldwide democracy and the ultimate goal of a one world government. A police state will do the reverse of that and is not in this country's interest politically or economically. Mark my words: WONT HAPPEN.

Until then carry on and if we ever do enter a state of martial law i'll be the4 first to post and say i was wrong.

Originally posted by forestlady

Originally posted by zeeon
Not to be insulting or anything, but thats a pretty bold statement. I'm sure this has been asked before, but can you provide proof that your a certified genius? Thanks

Of all of the things I wrote about on this thread, this is the thing you seize upon? I just think it's funny, that's all. I knew I shouldn't have said that.
What would you call proof?
I have taken two different IQ tests, one as a chld, one as an adult and
I tested somewhere in the 160's or so.
I don't have the test papers to post online, is this close enough?
I was trying to make the point with Albie about stupid people and Grover., is the only reason I posted that.
Maybe I should have written "certifiable genius"?
That probably fits me better.

So in other words, you can't prove it

Personally I've taken several IQ tests I've found on the internet and in all of them I barely score within the average-intelligence range so apparently I'm anything but intellectually gifted. But in my humble dimwitted opinion (according to the IQ tests I've taken), your grammar and writing style, spelling mistakes and "lols" hardly are indicative of a superior mind.

I have heard about the NWO and the police state conspiracies.

But Advisor this is the first time I come across the Operation Vampire Killer.

As I read one of the links you provided, I have to agree that even When I knew that we are a democracy is not much we learn about the Republic that is the true system of government we are under.

I heard all the time that the Republic is under attack, dying and almost forgotten due to agendas against our constitution and our system of government.

I even heard people claiming the constitution is too old and needs fixing and they are happy with that way of thinking.

I heard sometimes people, older people talking about the Republic that is no longer there.

But I will like to understand why Democracy seems to be the modern term use and the Republic is not.

If this information I am reading is true, then how can I relay as a citizen that see something wrong with our system of government on the police, Guardsmen and military including the private sector to protect our rights.

Who will be the patriots and who will be the traitors.

I most ask again and again who will become the traitor and the patriot when on one side our own government is working toward a police state and we the people alliance to our system of government also means the protection of that government.

After reading the link I am more confuse that I was before than ever, I don’t see any citizen allowing our government to be handle to the UN, but I see a lot of people that want our system of government to remind the way that has served our nation and served our nation right, while respecting and maintaining our constitution and keeping that constitution intact.

I am still confuse but as I read more into perhaps I will be able to understand the publication.

After all a person like me has reached the opinions I hold on the dangerous times in our nation through the series of events that are facing us lately.

Hopefully it will be nothing but rant and we will move on to a new government in our nation elected as is guarantee by our constitution.

But sadly anything that has been done during this administration will definitely will be supported by the next. . .

Perhaps Advisor we should have a thread all by itself to better understand the Operation Vampire.



[edit on 21-7-2007 by marg6043]

dgtempe, the Cape Cod Revolutionary!

Originally posted by dgtempe
Jsobecky, did you buy that cabin in the woods yet, and are you traveling looking for a safe haven?

dg you shouldn't be so afraid of a state of martial law. Just think of it - you will be living a very exciting historical time, and have the opportunity to make real changes. It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity!

And even if they caught you, I think they'd release you soon enough. You'd talk their ear off until you drove them crazy.