Originally posted by joshai2334
queenannie, I have a question for you.
You're aware that the teaching of Moses twice in the OT are "thou shalt not kill"; "thou shalt not steal"; "thou shalt not bear false witness";
and "thou shalt not covet."
Yet you believe in the stories of Israel under Joshua violating all those four commands, WITH IMPUNITY!
Impunity might be implied, but not necessarily the case.
But the value of the stories doesn't lie in their actuality, but rather their allegorical depth.
And even though I see nothing illogical at all about the 10 commandments--I also have to be honest and say I don't think any human being can follow
them without infraction for even a year, much less a lifetime.
The bible isn't a book about perfect people--it is a book about people. Regular people. Like all of us. I don't have standards that I expect the
bible to stand up to--I just read it. There is much gained from doing so--but I'm not judging anything by the circumstances, but rather by the
overall understanding that continues to unfold in my mind, from reading it.
Why do you accept this? I thought you're a rather thoughtful, reasonable human being. And I could never accept these contradictions as
"coming from God." Never.
God IS contradiction--how can anything be the source of ALL things and not be contradictory--however man's contradiction is more about hypocrisy, but
God's is a more poetic juxtaposition. God doesn't say He's only good and not bad, or only light and not causing shadows. He freely admits
that--but men don't--they think they must either be sinners or saints. But all saints start out as sinners. Even Yehoshua. He was 'without' sin,
but certainly he was just as human as we are, while living among us.
I have to accept my own contradictions--honestly in the mirror each time I face myself--and always, really--if I am honest with myself I realize I am
a walking contradiction. We all are. There is nothing wrong with that--God fashioned us this way, and so if He loves us, why can't we love
ourselves, as well? Both the straightened sensible parts as well as the confusing darker parts--we've all got them.
The age old question of 'will good defeat evil?' is framed unrealistically. Just like in a worldly war of tangibles, neither side in a war ever
truly wins. Casualties are losses no matter what. But if both sides decided to meet in the middle and agree to disagree--well, there would be peace.
But our pride doesn't let us do that. We judge others because we seek to justify or nullify those parts of our own self that we don't like in
other people. We can't admit we aren't what we think we should have been but it was never up to us. We should just love all the parts of the
whole, without qualification. That's how good wins--it absorbs evil and washes it all with pure light which is unconditional love.
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
(1 Thessalonians 5:15)
For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:
(1 Peter 3:10)
I think falsehood is far more contemptible and damaging that disobeying the rules--bearing false witness is a very harmful act--but even at that, many
of them in the bible lied--Abraham and Isaac, and Jacob wrested the birthright from Esau with a lie to Isaac. But Esau didn't want it in the first
place--justice works in mysterious ways and that's the ultimate thing.