Israeli pilots refuse to fly assassination missions

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Muldar

I see that you have now climbed off that fence of yours.

"I am sure sane people in the Israeli Air Force won't like what is going on with the air strikes. Remember those pilots refused to bomb innocent civilians."

Yes. 20 years ago.

If you are so sure, do you have any evidence to support that opinion?

Like, now that they are, at War?

They are at war.
But Israel has always been at war with them.

We speculate over this as it was long time ago.

But I did it difficult to believe that all pilots have no issue when the release these bombs knowing they will kill innocent civilians. Some of them may not have an issue but some others may do have an issue.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Muldar

How do you negotiate with the likes of Hama's?

Did you not read their Charter, posted above?

Here it is, again:


irp.fas.org...

Any comment?

Not by killing over 500 children and over 276 women and plenty of more civilians.

Hundreds of children and women are reported to have been killed in Gaza following days of Israeli airstrikes - as the US said Hamas's surprise attack on Israel was "equivalent to ten 9/11s".

At least 500 children and 276 women are among the estimated 1,537 Palestinians who have died with more than 6,000 wounded, the Gaza health ministry has said.

As I said earlier

So far at least 1,537 Palestinians dead.
At least 500 children dead. At least 276 women dead. The rest are mostly civilians. How many of the dead are Hamas Militants.

It's an act of revenge as I see it and a war crime together with the other things that are happening. Cutting the electricity and water supply. Forcing mass displacement of people, etc.

Most importantly they have set the foundations for a generalised conflict and WW3. That's why they need to go immediately to negotiations.

Nobody was able to answer how many of the dead are from the Hamas Group. But they were trying to excuse the mass killings of children in the name of freedom. Yesterday they tried hard to argue these numbers are not correct or that Hamas are taking Shields, as if this makes the mass killings of children and women legal.

War crimes have been answered with war crimes.

originally posted by: Insurrectile
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I can see the irony.

Looks like humanity still had a shot at a decent future 20 years back, funny how times change.

a reply to: Muldar

Death and destruction are par for the course in that area. Soon we will all be pivoting back to Ukraine. That is a more unique situation.

a reply to: Muldar

War crimes have been answered with war crimes.

Ladies,gents, aliens and everything between: "The Rule Of Law".

You get the drift yet?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Muldar

How do you negotiate with the likes of Hama's?

Did you not read their Charter, posted above?

Here it is, again:


irp.fas.org...

Any comment?

Well, if you’re the Clinton’s, Biden and Benjamin Netanyahu, they negotiate with Hamas by giving other Muslim extremists terrorists a safe haven and their own f*cking state (Kosovo) in southern Europe. And look away.

However, it’s only right to clutch their pearls and “go all out” when it only pertains to Israel.

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: Muldar

Death and destruction are par for the course in that area. Soon we will all be pivoting back to Ukraine. That is a more unique situation.

Correct. Just another show there while Israel supports other Muslim extremists terrorists areas in the world that’s not near their own as*hole.

Rinse/repeat.

The death toll has increased

At least 1,900 Palestinians have died
At least 1,300 Israelis have died

a reply to: Chalgreen

It's more than clear Israel has answered war crimes with more war crimes.

There are several voices, including Jews, who ask this to stop.

You can't kill thousands of children and women or other civilians in the name of freedom and self defense. Israel has lost its legitimacy and they fell into the trap of responding to what Hamas did a few days ago.

I wonder how the Israeli Pilots think of it when they know they have killed so many civilians who had nothing to do with Hamas atrocities.

a reply to: Muldar

At least there's some humanity still left some where in this mess
we've made of the world.

Bombing any child is of the highest crime in all creation doesn't matter
who you are. God should should strike down upon them with great
vengence and furious anger. On those who would willfully harm any child.
I despise all who would do such a horrible thing. The thought of it pains
me at my soul.

a reply to: Muldar

20 Years ago.... You could have included the date or something in the title instead of letting it seem as if this was a recent revelation. Click bait at it's finest

a reply to: Muldar

These bombings don't happen in a vacuum, the bombings were for a reason and the civilians are usually warned ahead of time via pamphlets and knock bombs. They tell them where is safe from bombing.... Yet HAMAS leaders tell them to stay put and use them as human shields so people like you can use it for shock value to pretend like it's some kind of ethnic cleansing.... When 18% of Israel are functioning members of society.... The propaganda gets tiring

a reply to: vertedtwylight

Yep. Hamas now setting up roadblocks to stop Gazans from leaving.

They want more dead Palestinians to fuel their propaganda. Pretty sick:



www.lbc.co.uk...

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: vertedtwylight

Yep. Hamas now setting up roadblocks to stop Gazans from leaving.

They want more dead Palestinians to fuel their propaganda. Pretty sick:



www.lbc.co.uk...

Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians have been displaced by the bombings. So they have left from where they are...forcibly... after entire areas have been destroyed and many children and women died because of the strikes.

Don't you think this is a war crime?

Israel has the choice not to do it but they did it and is an act of revenge.

Cutting the water supply and electricity is an act of revenge and forcing hundreds of thousands to relocate is an act of revenge. But they are against international law and the mass killings are war crimes.

originally posted by: vertedtwylight
a reply to: Muldar

20 Years ago.... You could have included the date or something in the title instead of letting it seem as if this was a recent revelation. Click bait at it's finest

It may be relevant today.
Are you sure Israeli Pilots want to bomb and kill innocent civilians?

a reply to: Saloon

How do you feel about Hamas setting up roadblocks to stop civilians (including children) from fleeing the war zone?

Do you despise that and does it pain your soul?

a reply to: Muldar

Yes, but what about these roadblocks?

That was my actual point.

a reply to: Muldar

Pretty sure they want to stop Hamas from invading their country and killing their kith and kin.

originally posted by: Muldar

originally posted by: nugget1
to move about in relative safety?

Because this is an act of revenge that none of the members who support these bombings on this site want to admit. There could be some Hamas Militants hiding among the population but this is already known. When you bomb a heavily dense area with over 2.3 million people then you will kill thousands of people who are civilians.

Then don’t use the populated areas as a base of operations and launch missiles.

Funny you don’t cover how Hamas as the elected government chooses to buy weapons than take care of the civilians it governs.

drones or swarms and predator missiles are the 'dirty workers' in the enemy skies for targeting individual persons

good call Israeli Pilots