Mueller Indictments for 13 Russian Nationals in US Election Meddling

Looks like Trump won the electoral college and also the popular vote too!

DID TRUMP ACTUALLY WIN BY 13 MILLION VOTES?

Before you knee jerk dismiss this, look over the article, numbers and references. Impressive information.

So I am trying to get a little perspective on this..... call me a conspiracy nut but I am a little mistrusting on anything that involves Men in Suits. I dont care if they wear an R or a D.....Neither side is motivated by the Will of the People... that is why they never ask us what we want.

So if I am reading this correctly...... Facebook posts and organizing protests just received the moniker... election interference. This to me feels like another..... nudge. A little push in the direction they want us to go. Easily defended by sounding all patriotic YES!! BUT IT WAS RUSSIANS!!! ...... then comes another little nudge..... then another. Then the next thing you know anyone who says anything that goes against what the Men in Suits want is charged with election interference and we all stand around scratching our heads wondering how we got here.

For centuries no one cared if someone smoked. You didnt even notice it. You never herd people 3 rows over coughing like they were about to drop dead.... giving you the evil eye..... nudge nudge. enter nonsmoking area...... nudge nudge nudge.... enter smoking area..... nudge nudge. This is how the Men in Suits work. It is a very effective method of thought control. One shepard is able to get 100s of sheep to go where he wants them.... with little nudges.
Look at the antiabortion people..... We just dont want tax payer funded abortions..... nudge.. We just dont want late term abortions..... nudge nudge..... We just want it limited to the first trimester... nudge nudge nudge. We want all abortion outlawed everywhere!!!.

a reply to: aethertek

I love how you include the tweet of Trump saying Putin denies it and "I've already given my opinion" without including the fact that his opinion is that Russia did it.

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: sdcigarpig

he won't even admitt to the attack.

Boy, are you uninformed. Just the way they want you, full of propaganda and no real information. He admitted it was the Russians over a year ago.

President-elect Donald Trump acknowledged for the first time Wednesday that he believes Russian operatives hacked the Democratic Party during the election, but he continued to dispute intelligence reports that Moscow acted to help him win.

“I think it was Russia,” Trump said at a news conference in New York when asked who was responsible for the public leaks of Democratic emails during the campaign.

Washington Post, 11 January 2017

Keep giving the Russians exactly what they wanted. At this point, you guys are the ones that look compromised.

This all feels contrived. I wonder if they found something so bad, that they all decided it was in the nations best interest to take down a couple low level Rusky spies. Mueller probably uncovered so much filth on Obama and company that it would warrant prison, and could you imagine the resulting riots? The whole country would burn.

a reply to: theantediluvian

An even larger aspect to the story is how they then sought to sow discord even further by organizing anti-Trump rallies.

a reply to: face23785

He was right too. The Russian weren't trying to help Trump win. If they showed any interest in a a Trump victory, then it was so so they could create discord by acting against him post election. No, the Democrats have been Russia's friends, not the Trumps.

The Russians don't care which candidate/party is elected but they love the turmoil,angst,controversy and division it creates about our system of government. This isn't republican or democrat it's still communism vs democracy.

originally posted by: putnam6
The Russians don't care which candidate/party is elected but they love the turmoil,angst,controversy and division it creates about our system of government. This isn't republican or democrat it's still communism vs democracy.

Yeah, but in the meantime it has been the Democrats unwittingly helping the Russians out by playing right into their plan.

a reply to: theantediluvian

Tripe. Since when did the West need an 'excuse' to tank Russias economy, or surround the country with 'defensive' military installations?

For some stupid reason, every hundred years or so the west goes crazy, thinks it has to attack Russia.

We have morons on our team.

a reply to: intrptr


lol

did someone say something about attacking russia? you have a link?

keep up - they attacked us.

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: theantediluvian

Tripe. Since when did the West need an 'excuse' to tank Russias economy, or surround the country with 'defensive' military installations?

For some stupid reason, every hundred years or so the west goes crazy, thinks it has to attack Russia.

We have morons on our team.

Yeah we've had Russia surrounded with "defensive" installations for decades, defensive in quotes because what, they're offensive?

Gotta give them credit on the self-restraint, to somehow hold their wad and not pull the trigger on that invasion of Russia for the last 70 years has been a superhuman feat.

From one thread to another with your baseless bleeding-heart nonsense, eh?

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: intrptr


lol

did someone say something about attacking russia? you have a link?

keep up - they attacked us.

Don't mind them, it's a perpetual "war is bad" violin solo. Like anyone who disagrees with him just loves seeing people die.

Been listening to this. It's pretty much just a show-piece so Mueller can justify his budget. 13 Russians indicted, and not one will ever see a judge... because they're in Russia.

We found out what? That the Russians tried to foment division in the US? Was there anyone over the age of 12 who didn't already know that?

There is one piece of actual information that came out of this indictment: the Trump campaign was not involved. They were one of the two targets (along with the Clinton campaign) but not a participant. Donald Trump is innocent of collusion with Russia. Of course, that doesn't really matter either, because no one on the left will believe it. The comments in the last few pages of this thread prove that.

So where do we go from here? Let's see... Trump is still President, the Russians are not going to prison, Ds and Rs are at each others' throats (just like the Russians planned, according to this indictment), nothing is getting done in the FBI except Mueller's investigation, including checking out reports of some disturbed kid openly warning people he is going to shoot up a school, CNN is still fake news, ABC still hires stoopid people, NBC is still trying to be CNN, and the rest of the world is likely still watching us, scratching their collective heads, and trying to figure out what in the holy haybales we think we're doing.

In other words, we go nowhere... except right where the Russians wanted. Gotta hand that one to Putin: solid win, so solid we keep making him win even when we find out about it.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

The Russians know that we know now. They know how close our guys got to them.
America knows now too and that is the primary reason Mueller handed up this indictment.
He knows they will never see a court. He was sending a message to Russia and informing the American people that this was never a hoax.

a reply to: TheRedneck


tell that to manafort, gates, Flynn and papadapolous.

did you see the part about the co-conspirators?

Former Cruz spokesman Rick Tyler:

Mueller has legitimized his investigation and delegitimized the Trump presidency.

originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: soberbacchus


Again, there is NOTHING illegal about meeting with Russians.

If that's the case why did they lie so damn much about it?
Under oath, in press releases, repeatedly and consistently..

And continue to do so.

a reply to: neo96



This was the cyber attack segment of the investigation. Mueller is taking them down piece by piece.
And don't forget.
These individuals interacted with each other (And others known and unknown to the grand jury) to conspire against the United States.
He still has the DNC hack, the meeting in trump tower, the back channel communications and the trump association with wikileaks issues to look at and act on.

Oh and obstruction of justice. Almost forgot.

a reply to: Sillyolme

This was the cyber attack segment of the investigation.

Wake me up when he goes after Clinton and her bots.