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Mueller Indictments for 13 Russian Nationals in US Election Meddling

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posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 11:42 AM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

Hillary's server sent emails to the DNC.

You do know how hacking works, right?

TheRedneck




posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 11:46 AM
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originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: soberbacchus

Hillary's server sent emails to the DNC.

You do know how hacking works, right?

TheRedneck


Different timeline altogether.

DNC/Campaign email hacks came long after HRCs server investigation began and the server ceased.
Hillary wasn't even running for office when she had the personal server.

Do you know how time works?




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posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 11:48 AM
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Oh, I definitely agree! And yes, there is an issue... especially when one considers the lack of voter ID in some states, the electronic internet-accessible software that uses floats instead of integers for the vote count, etc., etc., etc. If there are security holes in our voting system, it's because we put them there. But I also think the narrative is another major problem.


Will Mueller indict the dead people that's been interferring in our elections?



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 12:05 PM
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originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: TheRedneck




Oh, I definitely agree! And yes, there is an issue... especially when one considers the lack of voter ID in some states, the electronic internet-accessible software that uses floats instead of integers for the vote count, etc., etc., etc. If there are security holes in our voting system, it's because we put them there. But I also think the narrative is another major problem.


Will Mueller indict the dead people that's been interferring in our elections?


Love that you decided to blame a Russian Campaign to Influence a US election on the Mexicans!

The right-wing's rhetoric really has become an SNL skit.



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 12:20 PM
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a reply to: soberbacchus

I love how many people ignored this post.

www.abovetopsecret.com...




Love that you decided to blame a Russian Campaign to Influence a US election on the Mexicans!


Odd I never said that.



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 02:22 PM
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a reply to: aethertek
There are several things that should be noted here, when it comes to this investigation.

The first is that there is very little if any information is coming out of the Special Prosecutors office. We do not know what direction the man is going or moving along. Nor can we tell how far along he is. We do not know what all is going on.

He may have one or 2 people in custody, under wraps and hidden away, for their protection, and that could be giving him the information that was shown in the indictment today. And when you combine it with the other indictment of the person who is accused of identity theft and fraud, it starts to paint a bigger pictures, showing a far greater coordinated effort that proves that the Russians did indeed interfere in the 2016 election.

But now it brings up the question is this: If all of the heads of the Intelligence agencies, agree, and this confirms, why is the congress and the president not doing anything to stop any interference in US elections?



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 02:43 PM
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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Gothmog

Actual indictment:

These people interacted with each other,(and others known and unknown to the grand jury) to conspire against the United States.

I see another "unwitting" , but yet on another topic...



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 03:09 PM
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originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Gothmog

Actual indictment:

These people interacted with each other,(and others known and unknown to the grand jury) to conspire against the United States.

I see another "unwitting" , but yet on another topic...


Yeah the left is losing their # over the indictments and have opted to just ignore what Rosenstein said. They also dont understand the legal implications for the term unwitting and what intent is.



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 03:12 PM
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They know for a fact that three Pakastani's had unautorized access to a crap load of DNC servers and users.


But it was the Russians
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posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 03:16 PM
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This news pretty much tells everyone that his investigation is coming to a close and he has no evidence, let alone evidence of Trump-Russia collusion. Like someone said here, this is just a compensation for a dead-end and unsuccessful investigation which costed lots of time and money. THE CORRUPT DEEP STATE IS LOSING. Even so, at best chances for Mueller, these extraditions will not occur in my opinion.



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 03:17 PM
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Do you know how time works?

Yes, I do, and no, you don't understand hacking.

No, I won't explain it on a public server.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 04:01 PM
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originally posted by: aethertek
a reply to: face23785

& yet your orange anus has yet to implement the already passed bipartisan sanctions against Russia.
Because he's Putin's lap dog.

He is dismantling the State Dept & most government functions that benefit Americans, he's attacking the base foundations of our democracy, education, media, the free press & the judicial, all the same moves any want to be dicktator(sic) would make.

So you people post all the BS you want, at this point I consider Cult45 to be enemies of America & the beliefs that made our nation the most powerful empire the world has yet to see.

K~


The only enemies of America here are the ones doing Putin's bidding, ie. the one's still pushing the "Trump is Putin's bitch" myth. I realize you can't admit you believed a lie for over a year just because you needed it to be true emotionally, but you could ease off the gas. You're giving Putin exactly what he wants. It was a myth, and it always was. Sorry you got tricked. Happens to the best of us.



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 04:05 PM
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originally posted by: soberbacchus

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: soberbacchus

Hillary's server sent emails to the DNC.

You do know how hacking works, right?

TheRedneck


Different timeline altogether.

DNC/Campaign email hacks came long after HRCs server investigation began and the server ceased.
Hillary wasn't even running for office when she had the personal server.

Do you know how time works?





Do you? Since Hillary had sent emails to the DNC before the DNC got hacked, those emails could have still been on the DNC server when it got hacked. And no that's not a different timeline, they're all on the same timeline. The timeline actually proves the opposite of what you thought it did. You don't even understand that. If she had only sent emails to them after it got hacked, that would be what you'd want to point out. You got it completely backwards.

What do you do for a living? Seriously? I wouldn't trust you with a mop job. Your level of understanding is that bad. Were you always like this or was Trump's election that damaging?
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posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 04:10 PM
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originally posted by: Thirty6BelowZero

originally posted by: Blue Shift
They may have tried to influence the election, but can anyone prove it actually had an effect? Trying to influence an American election is like trying to influence the path of a hurricane.


It's a very safe bet to say that not one single vote was changed because of ads on Facebook. This whole Russian conspiracy has been stretched and pulled as far as it can go because the left have been in desperate need of something to be mad about.


I agree that the Russian information warfare waged by the Internet Research Agency probably didn't make many Americans change their vote.
But that wasn't the intention.
Their goal was to sow discord and doubt in our governmental institutions.
What the propaganda did achieve, was to spur action. Real Americans went to rallies organized by Russians. It motivated anti-Hillary voters, both Bernie and Trump supporters.
Even Trump retweeted their made up crap via the Russian @TENGOP account, which had 10's of thousands of followers. So the millions of peeps who saw Donald's retweet, saw Russian propaganda from their leader's 'mouth'.
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posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: shooterbrody
Just going to leave this here as this is the new bogeyman.
www.cnn.com...



Russia-linked bots are promoting pro-gun messages on Twitter in an attempt to sow discord in the aftermath of the Florida school shooting, monitoring groups say.


Anything the left does not agree with is now "russia-linked bots"


Another way of framing this is: anything the GOP and Trump support, is further amplified by Russian-linked bots.



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 04:38 PM
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So we have the entire intelligence community confirming we were attacked by Russia to the point of detailed e-mails of their operational agenda in these current indictments.

Now given the circumstance one would think the leader of the country attacked might take at least a modicum of umbrage to a hostile foreign adversary subverting the basic foundation of its democratic process.

But noooo the orange anus is only concerned with making fallacious partisan points & not a peep about Russia & his handler in the Kremlin.




“Charges Deal Don A Big Win,” written by Michael Goodwin of the @nypost, succinctly states that “the Russians had no impact on the election results.” There was no Collusion with the Trump Campaign. “She lost the old-fashioned way, by being a terrible candidate. Case closed.” — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 17, 2018

Deputy A.G. Rod Rosenstein stated at the News Conference: “There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election. — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 17, 2018

Funny how the Fake News Media doesn’t want to say that the Russian group was formed in 2014, long before my run for President. Maybe they knew I was going to run even though I didn’t know! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 17, 2018


Not a word not one goddamn word about his lash master in the Kremlin attempting to subvert our country.

He's a cuckolded coward & the world just saw the United States of America get punked by a two bit Cossack crook.

& you so called patriots bent over & spread with him, the world now knows the US has become a paper tiger, a country with leadership so corrupt that it can be bought by a few billion Rubles.

Goddamned stinking cowards.

K~



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 04:56 PM
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we do it to them - they do it to us, no biggie.

that's the excuse i'm getting..



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 05:12 PM
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Now given the circumstance one would think the leader of the country attacked might take at least a modicum of umbrage to a hostile foreign adversary subverting the basic foundation of its democratic process.

And what would you have him do? Launch nukes?

Trump is doing his job, and even though we now have the results of a year-long investigations, results that indicate that Trump was in no way in collusion with Putin or Russia, and that Russia was not backing either candidate as much as they were trying to tear down both to get the people at each other's throats, you're still pushing the narrative they gave you. And doing it so poorly that I had to hunt for anything in your post to reference that was quotable outside the Mud Pit.

Care to see Putin's lapdog? LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

TheRedneck



posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 05:17 PM
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originally posted by: aethertek
Now given the circumstance one would think the leader of the country attacked might take at least a modicum of umbrage to a hostile foreign adversary subverting the basic foundation of its democratic process.



Deputy A.G. Rod Rosenstein stated at the News Conference: “There is no allegation in the indictment that any American was a knowing participant in this illegal activity. There is no allegation in the indictment that the charged conduct altered the outcome of the 2016 election. — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 17, 2018

Funny how the Fake News Media doesn’t want to say that the Russian group was formed in 2014, long before my run for President. Maybe they knew I was going to run even though I didn’t know! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 17, 2018




Let him mouth-off on Twitter and have his victory lap. The Special Counsel's investigation is not over. Trump knows that, and he also now knows he cannot fire Mueller.

Trump and his supporters conveniently overlook the phrase I bolded and underlined in Trump's tweet above. In this particular indictment...more to come.

As for his second quote, Trump applied for a trademark of "Make America Great Again" 11/1/2012.
trademarks.justia.com...

Maybe they (the Russians) did indeed know Trump was running in 2016, because, he himself, told them so?

Trump, by not enforcing the sanctions against Russia, is another red flag that he is somehow beholden to Putin.



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posted on Feb, 17 2018 @ 05:20 PM
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is the investigation over?



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