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Originally posted by InterdimensionalWarrior
5)According to NASA's biometric data, radiation exposure rates of astronauts in the orbital Apollo 7 mission were nearly identical to the radiation exposure rates of the lunar missions. Even if you believe they managed to somehow magically avoid the 4 million particles of high energy protons per square centimeter of the part of the Van Allen radiation belt they would go through leaving Earth at an angle of 22 degrees to the equator, the cosmic radiation and radioactive isotopes on the moons surface along with many other types of radiation they would be exposed to that the orbital missions that stayed within the protective magnetic field of the Earth would not be exposed to, it is completely unrealistic that the biometric data shows similar rates of exposure to orbital missions. this is simply impossible given the almost total lack of radiation shielding the spacecraft had. I calculated using the scientific method that the secondary electromagnetic radiation they absorbed alone before even leaving the the lower proton belt of the VAB would have exceeded 100 rad. I left out the secondary particle radiation and penetrative proton radiation in my calculations because it was unnecessary to do so because NASA's total radiation exposure for the lunar mission is listed as less than one rad. The conclusion is that no Apollo astronaut left the protective influence of the Earths magnetosphere. Add to that the fact that there was a solar maximum underway and any such mission.
Originally posted by Illustronic
Originally posted by InterdimensionalWarrior
2) LEM on surface: The astronauts landed on the day lit side of the moon where temperatures of surface materials exceed 200f. The spacecraft would not only be exposed to all of the same heating problems the spacecraft above in transit would, but the radiative heat of the moon itself. Within @15 minutes the temperatures in the LEM would exceed 200degree f, which can be proved using the scientific method.
First, there is no radiant heat in a vacuum, there is no carrier. The only way an object surface can be heated on the moon is by direct contact to a hot surface or in direct solar exposure. They landed on the moon in the lunar morning. The surface temperature you speak of is surface temperature exposed to solar radiation at high noon, its not that hot in the morning. Again, what is the problem with the metal being 200ºF? You could put your exposed skin (not advisable) to within on inch and not feel that heat because there is no air, (a carrier means to transfer the heat).
Originally posted by Illustronic
reply to post by InterdimensionalWarrior
Listen if you want to be an asshole about things then I'm done with you. I'm trying to temper of my insults to people not asking for it. There is no air in space, you will only be heated in direct solar exposure. How hard is 250ºF to deal with for all metal known to man?
Grow up.
Originally posted by Illustronic
reply to post by InterdimensionalWarrior
Apollo 13 astronauts would disagree. You should brush up on what they had to endure, I'll help.
Apollo 13, Condition Criticle. (Nat Geo).
Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
reply to post by InterdimensionalWarrior
Would you care to try your matter travels at light speed theory here? Still confused about what exactly you think you see in the LASCO C3 movie.
Originally posted by InterdimensionalWarrior
Originally posted by Illustronic
reply to post by InterdimensionalWarrior
Apollo 13 astronauts would disagree. You should brush up on what they had to endure, I'll help.
Apollo 13, Condition Criticle. (Nat Geo).
You keep forgetting, I don't believe any man has ever left LEO and survived and the idea that the astronauts of Apollo 13 endured extreme cold was based on NASA's belief that people at the time has a perception that temperatures in space were very cold by the general population. there is no temperature where there is no matter, and there is no temperature in space , or heat,except where there is plasma.
Originally posted by Illustronic
reply to post by InterdimensionalWarrior
And your plasma is very sparse, not a good conductor, so now you are backing off the heat theory you've been preaching? I believe I'm done here. All you want to hear is what supports your belief base, and it is not based on the Scientific Process.
I wonder, how the astronauts are ever able to sit down in all that heat.
Originally posted by InterdimensionalWarrior
Originally posted by DenyObfuscation
reply to post by InterdimensionalWarrior
Would you care to try your matter travels at light speed theory here? Still confused about what exactly you think you see in the LASCO C3 movie.
Certainly.
What the SOHO movie proves is the matter from a CME reached the spacecrafts sensors before light from it did. The 'speckles' of light you see in the image are caused by energetic particles striking the photovoltaic sensor of the spacecrafts imaging system.
because of a creatively slow refresh rate of that source. I suggest reviewing the NAVY LASCO archives (which are refreshed ever second) frame by frame in the time frame in question. It is easy to see that matter in the form of energetic particle radiation reached the spacecrafts sensors at least 2 minutes before light from it did.
The 'speckles' of light you see in the image are caused by energetic particles striking the photovoltaic sensor of the spacecrafts imaging system.