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Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Chevalerous
Concrete. Food. Medicines. Reading materials, education supplies etc. Water.
Things not allowed: Chemicals used for homemade rockets. rockets. Guns. Ammunition. Armor. Etc.
Oh, money is also welcomed.
Since the end of 2000, Arab states have transferred to the Palestinian Authority monthly financial aid of $45 million (since April 2002 this sum was increased to $55 million). The European Union (EU) transfers to the PA approximately $9 million monthly. By the end of 2001, the Palestinians had received $4 billion (the figure is now closer to $5.5 billion) since the 1993 Oslo agreements.
This is the equivalent of $1,330 per Palestinian. By comparison, the Marshall Plan to rebuild Europe after World War II provided $272 per European (in today's dollars)."
Most of the money is squandered away by corrupt government officials, and while Arafat was alive the money was simply put into his personal bank account. On average the vast majority of aid supplies still comes from outside sources, even though the Government receives enough money to fund the entire Palestinian operation, as they are roughly the size of a typical American county.
These funds also do not represent the hundreds of millions donated by private organization and charities.
israelipalestinian.procon.org...
You are so damn uninformed, it's not funny!
Interesting.. so, you can say as you please, imo you simply put your foot in your mouth, but what ever. But please.. by all means, refute my statements.
The UN relief agency for Palestinian refugees Unrwa's list of household items that have been refused entry at various times includes light bulbs, candles, matches, books, musical instruments, crayons, clothing, shoes, mattresses, sheets, blankets, pasta, tea, coffee, chocolate, nuts, shampoo and conditioner.
It helps when you don't take sources out of context.
And please note.. I never said the blockade was acceptable, I don't believe it is.. I don't believe Israel should be choking Gaza or the Westbank the way it does, regardless of if it's being attacked by rocket fire. But to say that no aid is allowed into Palestine is not just ignorant, it's a complete lie.
And some stuff that they refuse to allow in, like refrigerators, make little sense, not that they would be effective given Palestines rolling blackouts. Also it is true they used to refuse wood and concrete until the beginning of 2010 -- wood and concrete are not meant to build rockets, the main idea behind Israels blockade is to make the people so miserably unhappy that they will elect someone else come next election.
news.bbc.co.uk... (your source you forgot to post)
Reading materials, education supplies etc.
Amira Hass / Israel bans books, music and clothes from entering Gaza
Merchants are forbidden from importing anything not listed as food, medicine, or detergent.
Israel allows only food, medicine and detergent into the Gaza Strip. Thousands of items, including vital products for everyday activity, are forbidden.
Altogether only 30 to 40 select commercial items are now allowed into the Gaza Strip, compared to 4,000 that had been approved before the closure Israel imposed on Gaza following the abduction of Gilad Shalit, according to merchants and human rights activists.
The number of items changes according to what is determined by The Coordinator of Government Activities in the Territories. COGAT has refused the PA representative's request for an updated list of the items permitted into Gaza in writing, and passes the information only via the telephone.
Gaza merchants are forbidden to import canned goods, plastic sheeting, toys and books, although the United Nations Relief and Works Agency and other aid organizations are permitted to bring them into the strip.
The few items merchants are allowed to trade in are divided into three categories: food, medicine and detergent. Everything else is forbidden - including building materials (which are necessary to rehabilitate Gaza's ruins and rebuild its infrastructure), electric appliances such as refrigerators and washing machines, spare machine and car parts, fabrics, threads, needles, light bulbs, candles, matches, books, musical instruments, crayons, clothing, shoes, mattresses, sheets, blankets, cutlery, crockery, cups, glasses and animals. Many of the banned products are imported through the tunnels and can be found in Gaza's markets.
Pasta, which had been forbidden in the past, is now allowed, after U.S. Senator John Kerry expressed his astonishment at the ban during a visit to Gaza in February.
But tea, coffee, sausages, semolina, milk products in large packages and most baking products are forbidden. So are industrial commodities for manufacturing food products, chocolate, sesame seeds and nuts.
Israel does allow importing fruit, milk products in small packages and frozen food products as well as limited amounts of industrial fuel.
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The ban on toilet paper, diapers and sanitary napkins was lifted three months ago. A little more than a month ago, following a long ban, Israel permitted the import of detergents and soaps into Gaza. Even shampoo was allowed. But one merchant discovered that the bottles of shampoo he had ordered were sent back because they included conditioner, which was not on the list.
Five weeks ago Israel allowed margarine, salt and artificial sweetener to be brought into Gaza. Legumes have been allowed for the past two months and yeast for the past two weeks. Contrary to rumors, Israel has not banned sugar.
A Gisha May 6 news release said that:
After 12 months of unsuccessful (Freedom of Information Act) attempts (to) obtain (Israeli) documentation about (its) policy concerning the entry of food and other goods into (Gaza), and after claiming for many months that no such documents exist, Israel has finally admitted that it does indeed possess the information (including) a list of goods whose admission into (Gaza) is permitted.” More on this below.
In 2009, one of several Haaretz reports alleged arbitrariness and corruption in Israel’s Gaza policy as well as vagueness about what constitutes “humanitarian,” let alone the low quantities let in that fall far below minimally sustainable levels for 1.5 million people. As a result, other humanitarian aid efforts and Gaza’s tunnel economy supplement to compensate, but never enough to relieve dire conditions that worsen, not improve.
Gisha’s Obtained Israeli Documents
A document called “Food Needs in Gaza – Red Lines,” that reportedly establishes minimal nutritional requirements for subsistence, or as Ehud Olmert advisor Dov Weisglass said in early 2006:
“The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger.” In other words, make them suffer enough to reject Hamas or force its officials to accede to Israeli demands and function like Fatah as Tel Aviv’s enforcer – and if fail at both, slowly suffocate and strangle the entire population.
Originally posted by Village Idiot
I saw Ken O'Keefe on a news clip yesterday, sure looked beat up, he reckons it happened while in custody.
What I found a little strange was his obsession with his Palestinian Passport they took from him, he couldn't stop talking about it.
Isn't it easy to get a replacement Passport? and after being through all that he claims, a stolen Passport would be the last thing on your mind.
Somethings don't add up here.
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Originally posted by Village Idiot
I saw Ken O'Keefe on a news clip yesterday, sure looked beat up, he reckons it happened while in custody.
What I found a little strange was his obsession with his Palestinian Passport they took from him, he couldn't stop talking about it.
Isn't it easy to get a replacement Passport? and after being through all that he claims, a stolen Passport would be the last thing on your mind.
Somethings don't add up here.
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Originally posted by Cito
lot of people forget Israel shipping drugs into the US with CIA approval during the Iran Contra scandal, along with weapons to Panama.
Jews only further their own stereotypes, it's got to the point where it's not racist it's actually true, they will screw over their own allys when it comes to money. They will even give guns to muslims if the price tag is right. Just look at Iran Contra.
Jews scream about antisemitism but it's only a cover to try and change the herd mentality to think they are most innocent. When in fact Jew stereotypes are 100% truthful. They just try to cover it up.
Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
If it were not such a serious situation,it would be absolutley laughable that the Israelis have claimed that Ken O'Keefe had terror links,after all a true terrorist would not have taken the bullets out of the handgun-rather he would have used that gun to kill some of the commandos.
Well done Ken O'Keefe,and I hope he recovers fast and fully from his ordeal.
I agree that he was probably targeted for especially brutal treatment due to being a former US marine.
Well done Israel(big sarcasm).
The USMC stick together you know-and now you have abused one of their family.
Not a wise move.
Originally posted by Eagleheart56
reply to post by Cito
Lots of people forget that Islamic terrorist have killed thousands of Americans, made dozens of other attempts to do so, they leave the British alone since they British are exposing their underbellies and kowtowing to Shira law, in their own country, how does it feel to be an insignifent part of the worldwide caliphate.
In order to enforce a blockade of the Gaza Strip, Israeli special forces carried out a late-night raid on an unarmed, civilian humanitarian relief convoy in international waters that sought free passage to territory Israel occupies
George Galloway, the founder of Viva Palestina, announced in London that two simultaneous convoys "one by land via Egypt and the other by sea" would set out in September to break the Gaza blockade. The sea convoy of up to 60 ships will travel around the Mediterranean gathering ships, cargo and volunteers
Originally posted by virgom129
Why wouldn't he be pissed?
He was in international waters.
He wasn't an Illegal imigrant, infact he was taken to Israel AGAINST his will.
What RIGHT did they have to take ANYTHING from him or any of the others that were kidnapped???