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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
How do you know you were born gay? When you were born did your mother ask you? If so how did you respond? Write your answer down? Speak whilst as a baby?
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Yes God created Life and the universe. He gave us intelligence to use wisely, not for wars, only for the benefit of mankind. But we are using our intelligence to fight wars and do more harm than good eventually.
Do you CHOOSE who you are attracted to or fall in love with?
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by devilishlyangelic23
There may be some environemtnal, hormonal influences in early life, but out of a womb, there is no proof of being born gay. Do you believe a murderer was born a murderer?
Originally posted by Uniceft17
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
How do you know you were born gay? When you were born did your mother ask you? If so how did you respond? Write your answer down? Speak whilst as a baby?
Because when I was a little kid I knew I had an attraction to guys, I was always looking at them, I never looked at the girls or wanted to hang out with them. This was when I was 7. At that age I didn't even know what gay was, I grew up in a strictly conservative house in Alabama so it wasn't really talked about much.
Do you CHOOSE who you are attracted to or fall in love with?
Your fighting a loosing battle, repeatedly I have refuted several of your statements.
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Contact Merriam webster. Some things dont change. The laws of physics have been operating in this universe for more than 15 billion years...much longer than when you were just a piece of DNA swimming in your mother's womb which were governed by the laws of physics which you mock for their age.
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Originally posted by Uniceft17
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
How do you know you were born gay? When you were born did your mother ask you? If so how did you respond? Write your answer down? Speak whilst as a baby?
Because when I was a little kid I knew I had an attraction to guys, I was always looking at them, I never looked at the girls or wanted to hang out with them. This was when I was 7. At that age I didn't even know what gay was, I grew up in a strictly conservative house in Alabama so it wasn't really talked about much.
Do you CHOOSE who you are attracted to or fall in love with?
Your fighting a loosing battle, repeatedly I have refuted several of your statements.
Age seven is not the same as being born gay. Their are murderer's in their early teens as well. Once again, I have proven that you do not have evidence of being born gay, you have evidence of discovering that you were gay at age 7, that is all.
Originally posted by Uniceft17
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by devilishlyangelic23
There may be some environemtnal, hormonal influences in early life, but out of a womb, there is no proof of being born gay. Do you believe a murderer was born a murderer?
How are the 2 even comparable, we are talking about a persons sexuality here.
Like I said do you choose who to be attracted to or fall in love with? Didn't think you would answer that question, because it would disprove everything you have said.
Originally posted by Seiko
I feel you're entirely wrong, if we wanted that we would have a direct democracy.
No State is under any duty to validate or recognize any marriage it considers unnatural or contrary to its own laws. Further, the privileges or immunities of United States citizens are not a shield against the laws of a State. For example: A State that might provide for anyone to carry concealed weapons will be of little value to someone under the privileges and immunities clause who enters another State with laws against concealed weapons.
Conclusion: California’s ban of same sex marriages is not contrary to the equal protection of the laws under which the language embodies. If the Supreme Court (State or Federal) wish an amendment they can use to strike down either reserved rights or laws of a State they should insist upon lawmakers to amend the Constitution rather than resort to making up ill-founded judicial remedies out of whole cloth.
"Bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression." Thomas Jefferson
Tyranny and despotism can be exercised by many, more rigorously, more vigorously, and more severely, than by one. Andrew Johnson
While all State constitutions generally guaranteed due process of the laws, this guarantee could be denied or unequally administered to persons of color, lead to President Andrew Johnson in his December 1865 message to Congress to declare there should be “equal and exact justice to all men.” This became the battle cry behind Rep. Bingham’s quest to amend the Constitution to guarantee “equal and exact justice to all men” before courts of justice.
The Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause was an important addition for giving effect to the Equal Protection of the Laws under the Civil Rights Bill of 1866, which Bingham had said he intended to codify under the Fourteenth Amendment. With the addition of the Equal Protection Clause under the Fourteenth Amendment, the defined Equal Protection of the Laws under the 1866 Civil Rights Bill was given full effect:
“Full and equal benefit of all laws and proceedings for the security of person and property, as is enjoyed by white citizens, and shall be subject to like punishment, pains, and penalties, and to none other, any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, to the contrary notwithstanding.” This is why Senator Howard introduced the words to mean:
While all State constitutions generally guaranteed due process of the laws, this guarantee could be denied or unequally administered to persons of color, lead to President Andrew Johnson in his December 1865 message to Congress to declare there should be “equal and exact justice to all men.” This became the battle cry behind Rep. Bingham’s quest to amend the Constitution to guarantee “equal and exact justice to all men” before courts of justice.
Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival.... To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State's citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State. U.S. supreme court
Originally posted by Uniceft17
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Contact Merriam webster. Some things dont change. The laws of physics have been operating in this universe for more than 15 billion years...much longer than when you were just a piece of DNA swimming in your mother's womb which were governed by the laws of physics which you mock for their age.
Merriam webster needs to update there defintion for the sole fact that gay marriage DOES exist, it's undeniable and it happens everyday all around the world, like it or not.
Who did I mock for there age?
Originally posted by devilishlyangelic23
Originally posted by Uniceft17
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Contact Merriam webster. Some things dont change. The laws of physics have been operating in this universe for more than 15 billion years...much longer than when you were just a piece of DNA swimming in your mother's womb which were governed by the laws of physics which you mock for their age.
Merriam webster needs to update there defintion for the sole fact that gay marriage DOES exist, it's undeniable and it happens everyday all around the world, like it or not.
Who did I mock for there age?
i did the mocking i think the ways of life back in the 14th century has absolutely no place in a debate about the year 2009.
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Human sexuality is behavior, just as murder is behavior, so I am quite valid in my comparison. Love and lust are two separate things and I do not belive you chose to fall in love.
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Oh so things have changed for your liking? Like more war, more murder, more homosexuality. Just the kind of change you like in this world?
Originally posted by devilishlyangelic23
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Originally posted by Uniceft17
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
How do you know you were born gay? When you were born did your mother ask you? If so how did you respond? Write your answer down? Speak whilst as a baby?
Because when I was a little kid I knew I had an attraction to guys, I was always looking at them, I never looked at the girls or wanted to hang out with them. This was when I was 7. At that age I didn't even know what gay was, I grew up in a strictly conservative house in Alabama so it wasn't really talked about much.
Do you CHOOSE who you are attracted to or fall in love with?
Your fighting a loosing battle, repeatedly I have refuted several of your statements.
Age seven is not the same as being born gay. Their are murderer's in their early teens as well. Once again, I have proven that you do not have evidence of being born gay, you have evidence of discovering that you were gay at age 7, that is all.
and how else do you suppose a 7 year old would think they are gay? aside from being born that way...
Originally posted by Uniceft17
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Oh so things have changed for your liking? Like more war, more murder, more homosexuality. Just the kind of change you like in this world?
Loss of human life is not comparable to homosexuality. Love not war.
Your talking oxymorons.