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reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 04:30 PM by DimensionalDetective
reply to post by greysave



Yawn.

This is the STUPIDEST argument and PLAYED out rhetoric I continually hear from you war-mongers and excusists. Anyone who doesn't gulp down the kool-aid and endless lies from the biggest thugs and most prevelant LIARS (the U.S. >GOVERNMENT<), are "america haters". And that IS the point--Iran is not going around illegally invading and occupying other countries-PERIOD.

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reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 04:43 PM by Azurus
reply to post by greysave





Stating that you want nuclear power only for peaceful purposes while at the same time saying Israel will be whipped off of the map are very contradictory.


If that is what he said, then it would be contradictory. He didn't say that though. It's been proven numerous times in many threads that his words were quoted from Imam and said nothing of the sort. It was something to the effect of "vanish from the pages of time". It got distorted into "wipe off the map" so everyone and their mother was thinking "nuke".

I'm not defending his character. I just think he isn't the dangerous monster that many make him out to be. If he wants nukes for peaceful purposes as well as for posibble nuclear weapons, well under the non-proliferation act it seems like Iran should be entitled to it. They are a peaceful country.



reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 05:15 PM by sos37
Originally posted by Azurus
reply to
post by greysave





Stating that you want nuclear power only for peaceful purposes while at the same time saying Israel will be whipped off of the map are very contradictory.


If that is what he said, then it would be contradictory. He didn't say that though. It's been proven numerous times in many threads that his words were quoted from Imam and said nothing of the sort. It was something to the effect of "vanish from the pages of time". It got distorted into "wipe off the map" so everyone and their mother was thinking "nuke".

I'm not defending his character. I just think he isn't the dangerous monster that many make him out to be. If he wants nukes for peaceful purposes as well as for posibble nuclear weapons, well under the non-proliferation act it seems like Iran should be entitled to it. They are a peaceful country.


Then explain why Ahmadinejad has repeatedly turned down offers of assistance and personnel to build nuclear reactors and monetary incentives from countries like Russia in exchange for stopping their nuclear program? If you're after electricity why turn down the help and at the same time diffuse the frustration of the UN Nuclear council? And why not offer an explanation as to why this was turned down? It doesn't make sense if he's seeking peaceful nuclear power!

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reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 06:18 PM by Azurus
reply to post by sos37





It doesn't make sense if he's seeking peaceful nuclear power!


I never said he wasn't seeking nuclear weapons. On the contrary, I think he probably feels like he has the right to, so I think he is.


reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 06:35 PM by mind is the universe
Originally posted by greysave



Saddam did have Yellow cake. They just sold it all to Canada to be processed for power generation. I guess the Iraqi government is lying too.


Your one of the sheep right now. WAKE UP.
Saddam and Iraq war in sequence. PUPPPET & MANUFACTURED WAR.

The American government has created dictators all over the world including Saddam, so the cake talk is now officially crap talk. The A.Gov gave them the power to do what they want. The power to do whatever they like. The weapons are the tools for power, to create destruction in the countries America set dictatorships in. This is what causes conflict right the tools to designed for conflict?

If America claims to be so against the regimes and "conflicts", Why are they directly helping these regimes over there creating "conflict" now?. Iraq is a classic case scenerio where it all played out exactly as it did to this day. You don't know this WAKE UP.

America waits for it to get really out of hand, war starts there naturally. Waits for the backing of the American people by pointing out the chaos "over" there. Constantly brainwashing you to give your power to your own leader's to do what is expected "fix" it. Trying to sway you to a problem over there, which was created by the people pointing the fingers - THE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT. Problem reaction solution method. This is how our leader's control us.

As the process goes, BAM America goes in and looks like the good guy overthrowing Saddam (the bad guy) horray!!!. The American government keep telling the world time and time again that Saddam killed a million or so Iraqius civilians, or the terrorists are over there. Saddam had WMDs, and where are they? Where are they now?. Better still where did Saddam get most of the weapons from over the years? Even before Saddam was overthrown, He actually had very little power due to the heavy sanction's put on him. Why did Bush let Saddam live all these years if he was so bad then? If Saddam was such a mass murderer, then why did your government trade weapons with him and let him live? Weapons that were used to kill his own people. Why does Bush state this, when His administration gave him the power to do exactly what Saddam has been doing over the years. Saddam this Saddam that. FFS it's a load of bullsh!t. You know why because the pattern is now repeated with Iran, and people like you are too stupid to see the Bull over and over again. I'm so disturbed by the stupidity in today's world, I really and truely am.

The Bush Administration had just wiped another million, is the Bush administration in a different cateogory in how many people is ok to kill? Where is the line cross to how many more people have to f*** die for this manufactured war. So what is the point of any of it, Instead of me spoonfeeding you the facts can you tell me what the point is? Please tell me, because I'm sick of telling sheep behaving people like you. WHEN will you get it. For the love of GOD, wake UP.

They had the chance to kill him when George Seniour Bush was In office during the Gulf war. It's about money and oil, for christ sake, WHEN will you just f***** get it.

Turn off the f**** T.V and start behaving like an intellegent individual and look to the reailities around the world we live in. Look at how the elites spoonfeed you bull# to get you believe and give up your abilty to think. The American government create dictators all over the world. The American government sell's arms to all the dictators throughout the world. Selling arms is big business to America. America creates war for profitereal reasons.




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reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 07:48 PM by mind is the universe
reply to post by WhatTheory




Yes it is illegal. it's wrong to kill the million or so people the administration are responsible for. Oh you watch to much T.V. These are people you know. The leaders can say it's legal or illegal every single day for the rest of eternity. It was WRONG. end of dicussion.

Wake up.


reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 08:03 PM by mind is the universe
reply to post by WhatTheory



So the million or so, people that was killed under the Bush administration is right?

What are you smoking? Do take time to know what is it to be a human being.

The behaviour is unnaceptable. its not opinion, do take time to become a human being. Human beings no right from wrong. So don't talk bullsh!t

Passes you a shovel, for digging.


reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 08:06 PM by mind is the universe
Originally posted by WhatTheory


Where do you get your figures? I_am_liberal.com??
The correct number is under 100K.
For the REAL numbers, try here:
Real number of civilian deaths



i don't believe those figures. For one second, since innocents are being blown to pieces over there daily. Soldiers are brainwashed and filled with aggressive rants everyday to fuel the rage in them. The fear created in them would even kill women and children. Since there is no specific target. if a 100k are now dead, what's to say it won't double or treble soon. ffs.

So basically your saying 100,000 (which is bull) is legal to kill. your arguments are pathetic and not surprising.

Whatever the crack your on, it's working.
Here is another link to show a much larger number of deaths. Doesnt change anything for either figures when its come to morality.




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reply posted on 9-7-2008 @ 08:29 PM by mind is the universe
Originally posted by WhatTheory

Well frankly, it does not matter if you believe them or not. The fact remains that those are the real numbers. I guess its easy to have your position since you just make up stuff and call it fact while ignoring the truth.


Well killing people is wrong. And your ignoring reality. A million max Iraqs civilians dead is wrong. It's illegal. It's unacceptable, for many reasons, since the war was wrong from the beginning. Its breaks the commandments too. I mean come on the majority of American's are Christians, right? As far as the bible goes, its again illegal. Actually the Bush Administration broke a few. Not opinion there, sigh. you have no idea what the reality is, i feel sorry for you.


People die in wars and that is a sad fact of reality. It's ashame civilians get killed but you are acting like the U.S. is intentionally targeting civilians. Is this what you are saying? If so, then there is really no hope for you. You are beyond help. Plus, perhaps there would not be so many civilians deaths if the terrorists would not be cowards and blend into the community by wearing civilian clothes and making their homes their base of operation.
So your agreeing that more people should die, for a manufactured war? you agree that those thousand's should die? whos the terrorists, please explain the behaviour to me as who and what is a terrorist, when America goes and attacks another nation, is this terrorising? it's a sad fact, I don't accept it to be quite frank, how about that.


Yeah, there is a wity comeback.
I'm sure you believe anyone who disagrees with you is on crack.

Oh and grow up.

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