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Topic started on 3-8-2005 @ 08:22 PM by DontTreadOnMe
Not the flashiest title on ATS, but my attempt to give the Paranormal Forum one place to talk about numbers and their special interest to the ATS community.
In my short time as a moderator her, I've seen several threads devoted to various numbers, most recently 333 and 11:11.
It seems to me if we have one place to talk about these numbers and our experiences with them, we could gain a larger audience and avoid duplicating ideas.


To start off this thread, I have found a link to a piece about numbers from Wheaton College in Wheaton IL. It gives a brief history of numbers and their significance.
Worth a read for all:
"...thou hast ordered all thing in measure, number, and weight" (Wisdom 11:21).

So writes the author of the Apocryphal Old Testament book Wisdom--a text which captures so well the meaning and mystery behind number symbolism in the Middle Ages. Augustine himself suggests that numbers are like the thoughts of God, giving authority and approval to a system of thought that was to permeate medieval culture. Although on the surface number symbolism might appear to be on a par with symbolism from the natural world, there is a difference: both are based on God's signs in nature, but the significance of numbers involves a greater mystery and requires more education to unravel--at least in the more complicated forms prevalent in the Middle Ages.

www.wheaton.edu...



Other ATS references about numbers:
The time when you look at the clock, and what it means
Why do I see this Everywhere???!!
11:11 Is a Wake-Up Call.
Reoccurances Again
42 - Ultimate Answer Playing With My Head
666 research

Anyone seeing way too many 11s on their clocks? (or other places?)
Interested in the 11:11 on the clock?
6:15 in the morning

This post will be updated and/or amended, as needed/required.


[edit on 5-8-2005 by DontTreadOnMe]


reply posted on 4-8-2005 @ 09:11 AM by Serum39
I dont know how to feel about this whole number thing. However, I do have a significant number that at the very least tests the notion of "coinicedence"...... 39.

Without getting TOO into it, like most of you, it started with the usual "everytime I look at the clock it says....." Honestly- so what?

But eventually I couldnt resist the temptation of being sucked into probing the issue... I mean it has been occurring well over 10 years at this point.

These days the whole "looking at the clock thing" has become VERY jaded.. happens TOO OFTEN.... What I found interesting are the other places it shows up.... AND more often then not, I can assume 39 will present it self to me...infsact my wife and I Joke about it, like yesterday, before going into a popular deli where you have to "take a number"... I said to her "watch we'll be number 39".. and sure enough. Happens all the time that sometimes i DONT want to see the number...

Anyhow here are a few examples of where it has presented itself over the years. Maybe someone can let me know their thoughts on if it COULD mean anything..
1. License Plate has 39
2. Driver License has 39
3. all but one credit card has 39
4. (I love this one) My house address is 39
5. (this is even better) The longitude and latitude for my house, my job, my previous job all contain 39
6. I was born at 11:39pm
7. total steps in my house is 39
8. jersey number given to me when i was a kid was 39
9. Almost forgot, in numerology, my name adds up to 39 (of coarse then it gets reduced to 3)

I can go on forever. So what do you guys think?

My wife is hoping I dont die at 39 (me either) Ironically, I will be 39 shortly after Dec, 21 2012

Thoughts? For those who claim numbers to be of significance, how would one determine whether the number (39) is a positive thing or a negitive thing in ones life?

Peace

[edit on 4-8-2005 by Serum39]

[edit on 4-8-2005 by Serum39]


reply posted on 4-8-2005 @ 09:58 PM by Alexander Tau
Every moment of every day we are submersed in a sea of information. We take it in via our various senses. There is so much that we must constantly pick and choose that which is important. So we notice the bus that is heading our way but do not notice what sort of candy wrapper is at our feet. If asked you would probably remember some trash, but not the exact details of what the wrapper was, despite the fact that you indeed looked directly at it.

So when we become aware of something, for whatever reason, it stands out because we choose to notice. I am sure you realize Chasrac64 that the things you now notice were in fact always there, it is just now you care.

Like anything we do not understand the effect can be wierd, but this concept it well proven and actually quite simple.

I am not in any way discounting the idea of a Sign, or signal, from ourselves that lead us somewhere important. Sometimes there is something that we need to do that we are not getting. In that case our Deeper Selves (called by many names including Subcon, spirit, whatever) nudge us in a certain direction. I do think it is important to listen and to try and follow these up when they happen.

I go by the idea that a Sign is not a Sign unless it makes sense.

Our Deeper Selves know what we can, and cannot, understand so the idea that something is a Sign but we do not really understand it, to me, is just flat wrong. In my experience it is very common for people who have learned a little about the occult to jump to these sorts of conclusions. It is the job of the Teacher to help the Student sort through these things so that a real Sign or other unconsious Signal can be seen for what it is.

Sometimes a Cigar is just a Cigar.


A.T
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reply posted on 5-8-2005 @ 08:59 AM by Chasrac64
Alexander I too like reading your post.

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