It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
originally posted by: onequestion
originally posted by: TerryMcGuire
a reply to: onequestion
Washington did NOT sign the Declaration of Independence,
Here we go with the picking apart of details in order to sound intelligent rather than addres the bigger idea present in the post.
You know, if you had a major problem with the Feebs or BLM and you didn't give a rat's patoot about the Bundy situation, you could make hay right now.
originally posted by: Nyiah
originally posted by: SloAnPainful
...and there dies the Americans who truly fought for their right and their people... With many others... Freedom has all but been extinguished.
What the crap, melodrama much? Seizing & squatting in federal buildings, going all Grand Theft with federal vehicles, eff me, they're goddamn criminals, no matter how much lipstick you plaster on that pig of a group.
They got what they earned & deserved, ultimately. One will have an eternity to ponder if it was worth it, while the rest have a nice loooooong time topside to do the same.[/quote]
Oh, you mean like the "separatist" Randy Weaver who lost his wife and child to the feds.
Or all those evil children in Waco who were burned alive!
Yeah, death is just exactly what they "earned & deserved" for standing up to a governmental tyranny.
Execution without trial. That's the law of the feds.
Just sit there and hope they don't come for you. Oh, you know that you are safe because you don't break the law.
When will you stand against tyranny of the federal government? What would they have to do to you and yours before you'd get off the couch? Will it be when they order you to get on the train to take you to the "new home" they're going to provide for you? Or have they already provided you with that home?
If sending two men to jail for protecting their lives and property, sending them not just once, but twice, isn't enough to wake you up, you're probably not going to wake up. These men were good citizens, good community members, not criminals until a crazy woman got appointed prosecutor. Of course, she conveniently took off as soon as this boiled up. There are reports she now resides in a hospital for the mentally ill and yet ...nobody on the feds side has moved to right the wrongs she did while holding that office.
BURNS – Oregon standoff spokesman Robert "LaVoy" Finicum was killed and other leaders of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge occupation were arrested Tuesday after the FBI and state police stopped vehicles about 20 miles north of Burns.
Fiore, a vocal supporter of the Bundy family, said that Ammon Bundy told his wife that Finicum was cooperating with police and had put his hands up. Then, Fiore said, Bundy told his wife that he watched police shoot Finicum three times. She said that Ammon Bundy also said Finicum was on the ground when he was shot.
originally posted by: Slanter
a reply to: Semicollegiate
Sure, Cow's fertilize the land well, but plants don't grow in well-fertilized areas that have 900 cows wandering around until the cows are gone. So its not like there's a net gain from letting cows graze in an area constantly.
I'm hoping by "The desert tortoise gets its nutrition from cow dung" you actually mean "From the grass the cow's dung helps fertilize" because desert tortoises don't eat cow dung.
The toothless tortoise is ill equipped to harvest and masticate range forage. The tortoise can harvest only tender vegetation, and it can't masticate even that. The tortoise can't process enough bulky, low analysis forage fast enough to meet its nutritional requirements (Nagy & Medica 1986). They solved this problem long ago—they allow other animals to do it for them. Desert tortoises feed primarily on dung. The more animals using the range, the more dung, which makes more food available for tortoises. In the millennia preceding the advent of domestic livestock on the range, tortoises subsisted on pellets excreted by rabbits, deer, and bighorn and scats of predators. Tortoise populations adjusted to the amount of dung available; their numbers were low (Mollhausen 1854).
originally posted by: Phage
Yes. That would be exactly what the Bundites did, re: the "Hammond situation."