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originally posted by: Baddogma
"Oh, of COURSE the universe would be akin to an upper level mathematics class, as they were my least favorite classes... and finding oneself in an inescapable, huge math class just friggan figures!"
Among the divine viziers Nin-subur is the earliest and most important one, and, unlike the others of her kind, she is related to her masters not as cause and effect but rather as command and execution; in other words, she owes her importance not to the natural phenomena which her masters embody, but to the metaphor of the cosmos as a state, she is the "director" of the heavenly estate and the Anuna gods
There cannot be understood a creation function in the Universe other than the general principle of binding, that transforms potential into the potent, potency being the essential Divine nature, the awareness of one's own strength at any given moment, it's not a case of answering questions but of realizing the potential.
Quantum mechanics research has proven that “local realism” cannot be preserved. By the book: ”
Local realism is the combination of the principle of locality with the “realistic” assumption that all objects must objectively have a pre-existing value for any possible measurement before the measurement is made .”
This is the whole “does the moon exist if nobody is looking at it thing”. Or does the moon simultaneously exist and not exist until someone is measuring it. Now that’s a subject for another post.
Now actually Bohm stated it a bit differently:
The Bohm interpretation preserves realism, hence it needs to violate the principle of locality in order to achieve the required correlations . It does so by maintaining that both the position and momentum of a particle are determinate in that they correspond to the definite trajectory of the particle; however, that trajectory cannot be known without knowing the physical state of the entire universe.
This stance is known as “Superdeterminism”.
Metaphysics and Theology has wrangled with this for a long time as well; now in general the view (the incorrect view mind you) is that “God” runs things in a hierarchical manner.
That we humans are “down 10 levels from “God” or more” and that we have to work our way up some sort of ladder to “re-join God”.
Nothing could be further from the truth….we are “already part of God” in the most intimate manner possible.
We are like an organ that “God depends upon” (we are part of the implicate order, and every part of the implicate order depends upon every other part of the implicate order to function AT ALL).
Let me bring the first part into the picture as it hasn’t been made clear yet.. the entire REASON for the apparent indeterminate nature of “local reality” is that THERE IS NO LOCAL REALITY, (local realism) as everything is “in-flight” moment by moment.
There is no “check out a file from the server and keep it locked all to yourself”. All “files” are being simultaneously edited by “reality as a whole”, “moment by moment”.
That’s why as the movie the “Matrix” says, “There is no spoon”. There is only potential for a spoon.
Now the implications of this are HUGE.
This is why “God” cannot swoop down and rescue anyone.. nor “put them in heaven or hell”.
Everything is “process” not “solid”. Everything is eternally in motion and nothing is “done”.
It’s like every electron in the Universe “has a vote”. And that “nobody’s vote takes primacy”.
This is also why “magic seldom works” the way people want.. what with every electron having a vote.. the art of “magic” requires that the “magician” build consensus with EVERYTHING.
Now I understand that “super determinacy” is tempting..it’s like Bohm says.. it may be true that ‘everything has already been decided” that in effect we ALL “live in the past”. I’ve said it myself when I discuss how there is little or no “free will”. And I stand by that.
But I also stand by this.
(I know that sounds screwy).
But both are true.
Maximal indeterminacy due to “everyone getting a vote” (multi-master, multi-modal, trans-luminal multi-modal communication” IS TRUE. And in a sense, when “viewed outside of time” is ALSO maximally determinate.
But it’s like the highway.
Everything is in motion.
But if you take a snapshot of all states “in the rear view mirror” it all looks determinate.
This is a very long subject and needs further explanation.
I don't have any issues when it comes to understanding function and don't accept there are no higher aspects to that in terms of Deities, the dysfunctional is Chaos, the ego should hardly be seen as problematic as it's our most basic function, to live as sentient individuals,