CDC mobilizing: Dallas Hospital confirms First Positive Ebola Case in the US

a reply to: MrLimpet
I am not being racist or anything but many Mexicans like to use Fabuloso cleaner because it costs less than any other...
The bottles may be that cleaner.

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originally posted by: bella2256
a reply to: ~Lucidity

I know the feeling, it is about 5 miles from me as well.

Like it wasn't bad enough in July. Sigh...

a reply to: netwarrior

It's hard enough doing my job without jackwagons not using common sense and making it worse.

Do you mean the guys power washing, or the CDC/local health authorities?

If I don't laugh about this, I'm gonna pull my hair out.

Well if those are bottles, small bottles of fabuloso, they were not there to sanitize, just get rid of the horrible stench it must have made on the sidewalk.
People do not care I guess about ebola, just the stench of the vomit...

About 89 cents per bottle...

We need to find out who the endangered Mexican Workers were and have them under watch...

Just on CNN, one of the reporters said that just in the last hour an infectious disease expert with the CDC said there is certainly a possibility that some of those in contact with Duncan have developed Ebola. Watching in the past how slowly information flows from authorities during an unfolding major event, trying to play down panic, it looks like to me, anyway, that was a way to get out the fact that in the past hour the CDC just learned that some contacts did develop Ebola, and they will wait until the weekend (or least until after the financial markets close), to publicly release this update. I would almost bet by Monday this is what becomes fact.

And that may be why they are just now talking about moving the four family members, and just now getting around to cleaning the apartment (but not quite yet because "they don't have all the permits yet", supposedly). They are probably waiting until members can be moved to medical isolation for treatment to actually go into the apartment and do what's needed. Because the job just got that much bigger.

Sebastian Robertson ‏@wfaasebastian 38m38 minutes ago
#BREAKING #Dallas company to install 5 remote temperature monitor to 5 schools w/potential #Ebola exposure @Wello_Inc

This isn't something they would be doing if there was "zero chance" of contamination or spread in the schools. Looks like they are getting ready for something big.

a reply to: antar

The walking death has come to America, is ironic that we are keep hearing that infected people are allowed to still travel to the US from ebola countries hot spots and nothing is been done about stopping them.

Been doing some research and have found some scientific evidence that Ebola Zaire can be transmitted through the air, however there is no evidence to support that this can happen with human cases.

From Pigs to Monkeys, Ebola Goes Airborne

They first inoculated a number of piglets with the Zaire strain of the Ebola virus. Ebola-Zaire is the deadliest strain, with mortality rates up to 90 percent. The piglets were then placed in a room with four cynomolgus macaques, a species of monkey commonly used in laboratories. The animals were separated by wire cages to prevent direct contact between the species. Within a few days, the inoculated piglets showed clinical signs of infection indicative of Ebola infection. In pigs, Ebola generally causes respiratory illness and increased temperature. Nine days after infection, all piglets appeared to have recovered from the disease. Within eight days of exposure, two of the four monkeys showed signs of Ebola infection. Four days later, the remaining two monkeys were sick too. It is possible that the first two monkeys infected the other two, but transmission between non-human primates has never before been observed in a lab setting. While the study provided evidence that transmission of Ebola between species is possible, researchers still cannot say for certain how that transmission actually occurred. There are three likely candidates for the route of transmission: airborne, droplet, or fomites.

PDF file of the study

Infectious virus was detected in oro-nasal swabs of piglets, and in blood, swabs, and tissues of macaques. This is the first report of experimental interspecies virus transmission, with the macaques also used as a human surrogate

No evidence that it can be transmitted to humans trough the air, but primates are a pretty close relative to us. Just more to think about.

Public Health Canada

In laboratory settings, non-human primates exposed to aerosolized ebolavirus from pigs have become infected, however, airborne transmission has not been demonstrated between non-human primates

May want to reconsider the UN advisory notice on "nightmare" scenario.

Whats confirmed? Ebola is airborne. Whats not confirmed is weather or not airborne transmission can affect humans.

a reply to: AnonyMason

This study has been linked several times in the various ebola threads.

The reason this happens is that it is respiratory in pigs, it is not respiratory in humans/NHPs, though it does exist in all bodily fluids and a cough or sneeze can liberate quite a few viable virus particles in an infected individual.

Dogs though, they eat vomit, can carry/transmit the disease to other dogs/animals/humans, but are not symptomatic.

How many days was it before that sidewalk was cleaned?

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

I was talking about idgits like the pressure washer guy and his bosses, but the health officials are doing very little to inspire confidence.

Like I said, I'm not in Texas but if I was sitting in my office chair in Dallas the strange tickle in the backs of the cleanup crews' throats would be my boot laces.

Excuse me, wrong thread

Update at 3:30 on the inmate with possible Ebola in Georgia.

COBB COUNTY, Ga. -- Officials with the Georgia Department of Public Health and Cobb County have an update on the investigation of a potential Ebola patient at the Cobb County Jail at 3:30 p.m.

11Alive.com will stream the news conference. 

Link to the website to watch

a reply to: marg6043

In some of the less informed authorities points, I think that they do not understand transmission, I don't think on the local levels that they are part of a conspiracy to spread ebola they are going by what they have been told ie bodily fluids etc.

Not to worry,
Ebola outbreak: 5 things you need to know now
www.11alive.com...

Anything else is just scare mongering conspiracy nutjob talk!!!

originally posted by: Jansy
Some extremely intelligent individual said, on one of the (disturbingly MANY) Ebola threads, that arrogance is what will be the undoing of the USA.



I heartily agree. I think our government officials thought (complacently) that it "can't happen here."



"Oh, look at our infrastructure. Look at our advanced technology. We are so much better equipped than those poor 'third world' African nations. We're fine. No problem."



The events of the past couple of weeks have proved that mindset wrong, at every turn. Because the fact is, this country is just as full of stupid, careless, or ignorant people as Liberia or Nigeria or Sierra Leone. (I won't even go into criminally negligent...but I could.)



I think it is up to individual citizens to do whatever they can to protect themselves. I'm grateful for ATS because I know that here, amidst the doom porn and wild conspiracies, I will get good information. I've always believed in being prepared for emergencies and crises. I am not as worried about the virus itself (my immune system is so frail that if I was exposed I'd probably be dead in a week) but I do worry about the breakdown of services, the panic and the violence that I fear are coming because of this...



Thanks everyone for trying to stay on top of this and sharing as much information as you can!

This was always the attitude of most of my friends. They think our president is great and that our country is ready to take on any crisis. They know I'm a conspiracy nut (just look at all my books on the shelves!!) and take my rantings and warnings in stride. Some laugh and joke that they'd come to me if anything bad went down. But it was always a joke.

Now they're stunned by the recent events. I also get questions now on what I think will happen. So weird to be in this postion!

originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
Update at 3:30 on the inmate with possible Ebola in Georgia.

COBB COUNTY, Ga. -- Officials with the Georgia Department of Public Health and Cobb County have an update on the investigation of a potential Ebola patient at the Cobb County Jail at 3:30 p.m.



11Alive.com will stream the news conference. 

Link to the website to watch

Wait...So they're not just coming out and saying the test was negative? They're waiting until 3:30? Isn't that what we did here in
Dallas?

Uh oh...This doesn't sound good.

a reply to: jadedANDcynical

It was splashed up under those cars that were not informed to move prior to the spray down project... Without the UV rays hitting them, they were contaminated.

Rats, cockroaches, who knows.

a reply to: texasgirl

Whats even stranger, the more they get excited, the more into the zone you go. Calm, cool and collected.

That's our girl, I am proud of how well you are handling this, getting information to share while making your own preps.

The NY Times now says that Texas health officials have identified the 10 people most at risk of contracting Ebola through contact with PZ.

Here's one of unidentified ones.


They don't say who the others are, except for the four known people in the apartment.

Source

originally posted by: graceunderpressure
The NY Times now says that Texas health officials have identified the 10 people most at risk of contracting Ebola through contact with PZ. Here's one of them.

They don't say who the others are, except for the four known people in the apartment.

Source

Here is my guess...
The EMT's that were with him in the ambulance, the Drs that treated him on the 1st and 2nd visits, the nurse that did the triage on the 26th, the four or so in the house, and I think they have severely underestimated it to be only 10 IMHO.

a reply to: texasgirl

I also get questions now on what I think will happen. So weird to be in this postion!

Welcome to my world. The day before yesterday at work, none of my morning servers had even heard of the case, so
I educated them.

By the time dinner came around, there was a group of 3 or 4 waiting for me in our private bar and when I walked in, one of them said, "we've been waiting to talk to you..."

I asked them what it was about, another one of them asked me, "do you know anything about 'these ebolas?'" - most of them are from south or central america, some from mexico; it is a mexican restaurant after all...

I asked them, "what do you think, do you think I know about it?"

They all nodded.

I asked them, "do you think I know a little or a lot?"

The first one said, "I think you probably know a lot."

I chuckled at that, and proceeded to educate them.

One of my co-managers had tickets to the big Texans Cowboys game this weekend.

Had.

How many thousands of screaming fans will be there this weekend from how many places across the country?

He listened to me because he knows a bit and he knows how much more than he I know, so it wasn't a very long conversation.

Another friend of mine passed it off as 'ebola hysteria' I provided her some links, she still doesn't buy it, but I will wager every cent I can get a hold of that she remembers what I've told her if this goes pear shaped.

I'm posting every few hours on Facebook hashtagging the cdc and ebola with incompetence and corruption, maybe we can make a big enough stink that they won't be able to ignore.

I advocated similar way back on the original Monster Fukushima thread (happy to see some of the same posters from there) regarding making a public outcry. I am doing so once more.

Trying to make sure this stays within T&C:

To all of you who do use the various social media, please ramp up your posting on this and linking relevant sites. Threads here (I keep linking the Diseases & Pandemics forum on major media Facebook pages), peer-reviewed research (if you need some links, let me know as I have amassed a HUGE amount of them, or you could peruse all of my posts over the past month and a half or so), news articles that might get buried are all valid posting material.

If we make enough noise, we can initiate a word quake and maybe we can make something happen.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.

Apologies for this off topic rant, but like Fukushima, we are facing a foe that does not care what holy book you read, or whether you can even read at all and this is the best thing I can think of to do with what small resources are available to me.