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Law Lecturer fired by the Open University for questioning gender ideology

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posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 10:11 AM
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www.dailymail.co.uk... elt-normalised-child-sexual-exploitation.html


A law lecturer has claimed she was let go from the Open University after raising concerns about teaching gender identity theory.

Almut Gadow, 43, says that she questioned curriculum requirements including teaching diverse gender identities and encouraging students to use offenders' preferred pronouns

She maintains that her role was 'to present facts' and says that she was sacked for questioning the need to 'indoctrinate students in gender identity theory' after changes were made to the curriculum in the 2021/22 academic year.

Gadow stressed the perceived importance of not allowing offenders 'to dictate the language of his case in a way which masks relevant facts', adding that she felt the new requirements 'distorted equality law and normalised child sexual exploitation'.

But the professor said she was told her forum posts on gender identity were deemed 'serious insubordination' and that persistent comments on identity, paedophilia and sex offending were judged 'serious bullying and harassment'.


Another marvelous case of a Law Lecturer who was fired for refusing to indoctrinate her students with gender ideology and questioning openly the curriculum changes made in the 2021/22 academic year where lectures asked to blindly abide to the 'inclusion, equality, and diversity' policies. We all know what it means!

She has now launched a legal claim against Open University (her former employer) after she has been dismissed for gross misconduct, claiming she had been treated unfairly, harassed, and discriminated against because she refused to indoctrinate her students with gender ideology.

Well done to Dr Gadow for standing her ground and for not giving in to the demands of a morally and scientifically debunked ideology. She is one of the latest victims, among many women who have spoken out against gender ideology in schools and universities, and have paid a heavy price by loosing their jobs.

There has been a remarkable response in her case, just as in many other cases, where to launch a legal claim in an employment tribunal the claimant needs £70K (around $89K). In a little more than two weeks after she started her fundraising page she has managed to raise almost £45K thanks to the generous British public.

I think the vast majority of rational thinking people find what Dr Gadow said very reasonable. Since when offenders get to choose their pronouns, and since when sex offenders and convicts are allowed to 'transition' to the opposite gender so they can share the same space with the people they were targeting prior to 'transition'. A more disturbing aspect of the gender identity and diverse sexuality policies, is that some people regard 'minor attraction' part of these policies (another name for pedophilia). It seems Dr Gadow hit many nerves when criticised openly Open University in an online forum for Law Tutors and she was eventually fired because of her online contributions.




Dr Gadow describing her family history


I grew up in a family of thought criminals. My grandfather was an undergraduate when the Nazis cleansed academia of wrongthinkers and their ideas. Rather than continue at an ideologically compliant university, he completed his studies at an illicit underground institution. He was then repeatedly tried for speech crimes and eventually sentenced to death by hanging ‘for destructive behaviour through statements in sermons and in dealing with [Nazi] party material’.

I see free speech as a distinguishing feature between democracy and totalitarianism, not a battleground between left and right. My family has seen both German dictatorships, the fascist and the socialist, right and left, suppress speech and purge academia of dissent and dissenters. I hope my daughter can one day go to a university that does not eliminate wrongthink(ers)

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posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 10:31 AM
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were judged 'serious bullying and harassment'.


Good to hear that those pushing these actions are familiar with the concepts of bullying and harassment. What is the long term result of many going through this trans program? Lots of support to hide from ones parents as their genitals get cut off before the person even knows what they do.

Tough luck dealing with a mangled body in the aftermath of purity. Who is the real bully?



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 10:42 AM
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They no longer need to kill them just take away there ability to make money

Unfortunately for the ones who are already under this form of control it's hard to break due to it being punishable for merely asking if what your doing is wrong

It's a known and effective tool for control a huge red flag that you are not on the right side of history but it's impossible to see from the inside

Many Germans had to see the bodies to believe what they where told was not true due to the power of limiting a person's ability to discuss the topic with other people



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 10:45 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg

There's gotta be more to the story or someone is telling only half truths, for starters, criminals are sorted by assigned sex at birth, they aren't mixed and matched in prison:

www.gov.uk...

And, she's a criminal law lecturer, who is complaining about talking about under age kids getting involved with adults? Isn't that criminal? Should the students not learn about that?

It is then claimed that if students talk about grooming and such they lose grades?


She said that describing the child and adult as each other's 'boyfriends' would yield marks, and that students would lose marks for considering 'whether the adult was grooming the child or committing a sexual offence


I find that part hard to believe, but since she apparently still believes that criminals can choose their gender to get into another prison still, I'm not too sure she's even up to date on the law and not even fit to lecture about law. Or there's some really bad reporting going on.



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 10:52 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: AlienBorg

There's gotta be more to the story or someone is telling only half truths, for starters, criminals are sorted by assigned sex at birth, they aren't mixed and matched in prison:

www.gov.uk...

And, she's a criminal law lecturer, who is complaining about talking about under age kids getting involved with adults? Isn't that criminal? Should the students not learn about that?

It is then claimed that if students talk about grooming and such they lose grades?


She said that describing the child and adult as each other's 'boyfriends' would yield marks, and that students would lose marks for considering 'whether the adult was grooming the child or committing a sexual offence


I find that part hard to believe, but since she apparently still believes that criminals can choose their gender to get into another prison still, I'm not too sure she's even up to date on the law and not even fit to lecture about law. Or there's some really bad reporting going on.


Can you not transition after you have been convicted in the UK? And then ask to change places and end up in a women's prison.

Nobody argued prisons are mixed with men and women in the same places.



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 10:55 AM
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Well thats kind of crazy.

I know that the OU is woke as hell cos I study there but firing a law prof over this, that sounds way over the top and something that will bite them if they don't have all their ducks in a row.
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posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 10:57 AM
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Moral laws are internal while laws are external.

This is the offending course worth 30 points out of 120, which by the way is one choice out of four.



Block 1: Gender, sexuality and law
This theme will look at the relationship between gender and law as well as sexuality and law. It will challenge the existing assumptions about the neutrality of law and explore the gendered nature of law, asking how does/should the law regulate and construct gender. Questions of how law interacts or should interact with the changing social concepts of gender and sexuality will also be addressed. In the final unit of the block, you'll focus on challenging the gender stereotypes and assumptions regarding female perpetrators and their treatment in the criminal justice system (in the UK and international context).


www.open.ac.uk...

It appears she didn't want to follow the uni's policies on inclusion and being a leader against discrimination within the uni.

www.open.ac.uk...



A spokesperson from The Open University said: 'We can confirm that Almut Gadow was summarily dismissed from her employment with The Open University in November 2022, after a disciplinary hearing upheld allegations about her conduct towards other employees.

'That decision was upheld at an appeal hearing chaired by an independent and senior barrister in March 2023. We can also confirm that Almut Gadow has brought employment tribunal proceedings against The Open University, which we will vigorously defend.

'Given these ongoing legal proceedings, we do not intend to comment further at this time, save to say that we strongly dispute the account which we understand Almut Gadow to have given to the media about the circumstances of, and reasons for, her dismissal; the University's criminal law curriculum and modules; and its Equality, Diversity and Inclusion policies.'


www.dailymail.co.uk... elt-normalised-child-sexual-exploitation.html

Again, as with all these sensationalized discrimination cases, we have to wait for the outcome of the court trial.

As for the offending module where a supposed 'minor' and an adult were suppose to be considered to be in a relationship. Within the law (leaving morals behind for now) age of consent in the U.K. is 16 years of age, which I consider a minor, but at that age they are legally allowed to consent to a sexual relationship. Was this the age of the 'minor", where are the facts of this case?

Context is everything. Maybe all of this will come out in the court trial. Another waiting game.
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posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 10:58 AM
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a reply to: AlienBorg

According to the government link, if they have male genitals they aren't put into women's prison.

I guess there's exemptions, but if you chop it off, I'm going to guess you're not much of a risk or take your "new role" pretty seriously.



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 11:07 AM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
Well thats kind of crazy.

I know that the OU is woke as hell cos I study there but firing a law prof over this, that sounds way over the top and something that will bite them if they don't have all their ducks in a row.


The reality of the woke culture.
She isn't the only one who has been fired for online comments and criticisms of the inclusion policies of various universities and other work places.
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posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 11:13 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone
Moral laws are internal while laws are external.

This is the offending course worth 30 points out of 120, which by the way is one choice out of four.



Block 1: Gender, sexuality and law
This theme will look at the relationship between gender and law as well as sexuality and law. It will challenge the existing assumptions about the neutrality of law and explore the gendered nature of law, asking how does/should the law regulate and construct gender. Questions of how law interacts or should interact with the changing social concepts of gender and sexuality will also be addressed. In the final unit of the block, you'll focus on challenging the gender stereotypes and assumptions regarding female perpetrators and their treatment in the criminal justice system (in the UK and international context).


www.open.ac.uk...

It appears she didn't want to follow the uni's policies on inclusion and being a leader against discrimination within the uni.

www.open.ac.uk...



A spokesperson from The Open University said: 'We can confirm that Almut Gadow was summarily dismissed from her employment with The Open University in November 2022, after a disciplinary hearing upheld allegations about her conduct towards other employees.

'That decision was upheld at an appeal hearing chaired by an independent and senior barrister in March 2023. We can also confirm that Almut Gadow has brought employment tribunal proceedings against The Open University, which we will vigorously defend.

'Given these ongoing legal proceedings, we do not intend to comment further at this time, save to say that we strongly dispute the account which we understand Almut Gadow to have given to the media about the circumstances of, and reasons for, her dismissal; the University's criminal law curriculum and modules; and its Equality, Diversity and Inclusion policies.'


www.dailymail.co.uk... elt-normalised-child-sexual-exploitation.html

Again, as with all these sensationalized discrimination cases, we have to wait for the outcome of the court trial.

As for the offending module where a supposed 'minor' and an adult were suppose to be considered to be in a relationship. Within the law (leaving morals behind for now) age of consent in the U.K. is 16 years of age, which I consider a minor, but at that age they are legally allowed to consent to a sexual relationship. Was this the age of the 'minor", where are the facts of this case?

Context is everything. Maybe all of this will come out in the court trial. Another waiting game.


Nothing has been sensationalized. She isn't the only one fired for similar reasons. Hence there is an issue with the politics affecting academia. Nobody can be fired because they made online comments and criticisms against the ridiculous 'inclusion' policies of universities and work places. Not that long time ago Maya Forstater won I think £100K after was dismissed for stating simple and basic facts. She wasn't an academic buy the case is similar.

Remarkably in a little over two weeks she had managed to raise around £45,000 out of the £70,000 she needs to bring an employment tribunal. The Brits seem to be behind her cause.



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 11:16 AM
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originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: quintessentone
Moral laws are internal while laws are external.

This is the offending course worth 30 points out of 120, which by the way is one choice out of four.



Block 1: Gender, sexuality and law
This theme will look at the relationship between gender and law as well as sexuality and law. It will challenge the existing assumptions about the neutrality of law and explore the gendered nature of law, asking how does/should the law regulate and construct gender. Questions of how law interacts or should interact with the changing social concepts of gender and sexuality will also be addressed. In the final unit of the block, you'll focus on challenging the gender stereotypes and assumptions regarding female perpetrators and their treatment in the criminal justice system (in the UK and international context).


www.open.ac.uk...

It appears she didn't want to follow the uni's policies on inclusion and being a leader against discrimination within the uni.

www.open.ac.uk...



A spokesperson from The Open University said: 'We can confirm that Almut Gadow was summarily dismissed from her employment with The Open University in November 2022, after a disciplinary hearing upheld allegations about her conduct towards other employees.

'That decision was upheld at an appeal hearing chaired by an independent and senior barrister in March 2023. We can also confirm that Almut Gadow has brought employment tribunal proceedings against The Open University, which we will vigorously defend.

'Given these ongoing legal proceedings, we do not intend to comment further at this time, save to say that we strongly dispute the account which we understand Almut Gadow to have given to the media about the circumstances of, and reasons for, her dismissal; the University's criminal law curriculum and modules; and its Equality, Diversity and Inclusion policies.'


www.dailymail.co.uk... elt-normalised-child-sexual-exploitation.html

Again, as with all these sensationalized discrimination cases, we have to wait for the outcome of the court trial.

As for the offending module where a supposed 'minor' and an adult were suppose to be considered to be in a relationship. Within the law (leaving morals behind for now) age of consent in the U.K. is 16 years of age, which I consider a minor, but at that age they are legally allowed to consent to a sexual relationship. Was this the age of the 'minor", where are the facts of this case?

Context is everything. Maybe all of this will come out in the court trial. Another waiting game.


Nothing has been sensationalized. She isn't the only one fired for similar reasons. Hence there is an issue with the politics affecting academia. Nobody can be fired because they made online comments and criticisms against the ridiculous 'inclusion' policies of universities and work places. Not that long time ago Maya Forstater won I think £100K after was dismissed for stating simple and basic facts. She wasn't an academic buy the case is similar.

Remarkably in a little over two weeks she had managed to raise around £45,000 out of the £70,000 she needs to bring an employment tribunal. The Brits seem to be behind her cause.


From the scant news article it appears she discriminated against another employee, so who knows? Again, waiting for the outcome of the court trial.



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 11:27 AM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: AlienBorg

According to the government link, if they have male genitals they aren't put into women's prison.

I guess there's exemptions, but if you chop it off, I'm going to guess you're not much of a risk or take your "new role" pretty seriously.


I hope not. But you never know what going on with these 'inclusion and diversity' policies. It won't be the first time someone transitioned and ended up in a different space full of the opposite gender people.

The case I am describing seems to be very similar to other cases where lecturers and other professionals have been fired after making a range of online comments and criticisms against inclusion policies and against transwomen.



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 11:31 AM
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originally posted by: AlienBorg
Since when offenders get to choose their pronouns, and since when sex offenders and convicts are allowed to 'transition' to the opposite gender so they can share the same space with the people they were targeting prior to 'transition'.


NBC News - Transgender Women Are Nearly Always Incarcerated in Mens Prisons



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 11:39 AM
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Then it is appearing that it's rather institutionalized rather than systemic, as we have seen that government has already started putting their foot down.

I can bet that majority of these 'diversity' programs and policies are just virtue signaling for the most part until a bad enough case arises. If this sort of behavior gets into the non educational work place then I would start worrying a bit more.



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 12:49 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: AlienBorg

Then it is appearing that it's rather institutionalized rather than systemic, as we have seen that government has already started putting their foot down.

I can bet that majority of these 'diversity' programs and policies are just virtue signaling for the most part until a bad enough case arises. If this sort of behavior gets into the non educational work place then I would start worrying a bit more.


It's very worrying as it sees as the gender movement is linguistic without any substance but making great and unreasonable demands. Only the fact a lecturer was fired (and she isn't the only one) over criticisms of pronouns, inclusion policies, and trans issues, should raise red flags. But as I said, not the first time and not the last time someone has been fired over this. Do you know the case of Maya Forstater? She is too from the UK



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 03:04 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: AlienBorg

There's gotta be more to the story or someone is telling only half truths, for starters, criminals are sorted by assigned sex at birth, they aren't mixed and matched in prison:

www.gov.uk...

And, she's a criminal law lecturer, who is complaining about talking about under age kids getting involved with adults? Isn't that criminal? Should the students not learn about that?

It is then claimed that if students talk about grooming and such they lose grades?


She said that describing the child and adult as each other's 'boyfriends' would yield marks, and that students would lose marks for considering 'whether the adult was grooming the child or committing a sexual offence


I find that part hard to believe, but since she apparently still believes that criminals can choose their gender to get into another prison still, I'm not too sure she's even up to date on the law and not even fit to lecture about law. Or there's some really bad reporting going on.


Ignoring the existence of crime is fundamentally incompatable with law study

Either you are at liberty to do all of your job or someone is trying to sabotage you

Next we will hear about judges declaring mistrial because the wrong pronoun was used even if the perp confessed freely



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 03:54 PM
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originally posted by: SigmaXSquared

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: AlienBorg

There's gotta be more to the story or someone is telling only half truths, for starters, criminals are sorted by assigned sex at birth, they aren't mixed and matched in prison:

www.gov.uk...

And, she's a criminal law lecturer, who is complaining about talking about under age kids getting involved with adults? Isn't that criminal? Should the students not learn about that?

It is then claimed that if students talk about grooming and such they lose grades?


She said that describing the child and adult as each other's 'boyfriends' would yield marks, and that students would lose marks for considering 'whether the adult was grooming the child or committing a sexual offence


I find that part hard to believe, but since she apparently still believes that criminals can choose their gender to get into another prison still, I'm not too sure she's even up to date on the law and not even fit to lecture about law. Or there's some really bad reporting going on.


Ignoring the existence of crime is fundamentally incompatable with law study

Either you are at liberty to do all of your job or someone is trying to sabotage you

Next we will hear about judges declaring mistrial because the wrong pronoun was used even if the perp confessed freely


Precisely, in regards to academic freedom and freedom of expression but most importantly the freedom to state basic facts and criticise the government and political decisions when you're an academic.

Because without the support from politicians and the state (partly) there would have been no discussion on what is a woman, how many genders are out there, if men and women can change their sex, and all this kind of nonsense.
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posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 04:24 PM
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That isn't what I was saying

Law study means every law is open to debate , criminal study means every criminal is open to dissection

Free speech and open debate are not negotiable in such forums



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: SigmaXSquared
a reply to: AlienBorg

That isn't what I was saying

Law study means every law is open to debate , criminal study means every criminal is open to dissection

Free speech and open debate are not negotiable in such forums


It seems academic freedom is under attack btw. To remind you of the fact the lecturer was fired because of online comments she made criticising the gender ideology and the impact it had in delivering the course she was teaching

From her fundraising page


In 2021/22 the Open University’s Equality, Diversity and Inclusion department announced plans to incorporate its political ideologies into ‘all current curriculum’. The law degree on which I taught was redesigned around a ‘core theme’ of ‘liberating the curriculum’, reflecting these ideologies.

Criminal law tutors were told that, to ‘liberate the curriculum’, our classes now had to introduce diverse gender identities and teach students to use offenders’ preferred pronouns. I questioned if incorporating gender identity theory might be an unnecessary distraction or even unwise. I described gender theory as hotly contested, and as recently developed in wealthy Western countries. I pointed out that (not) believing in gender identity is a protected religious or philosophical belief under the Equality Act 2010, and said law tutorials are no place to promote one's beliefs


I do agree every law is open to debate and had to be contested if there is a bed to amend or or change it completely.



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 05:16 PM
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To remind you of the fact the lecturer was fired because of online comments she made criticising the gender ideology and the impact it had in delivering the course she was teaching


I read that the lecturer was fired because she discriminated against another employee. We need to see the court document to ascertain facts here.

Her legal case will be in something named Employment Tribunal, whatever that is. Is it in a court of law or a branch of government?



My legal case
Assisted at no cost by the Free Speech Union, I am launching a legal claim in the Employment Tribunal. I am arguing that I have been unfairly dismissed, harassed, and discriminated against because I reject gender ideology and believe in academic freedom. My case raises complex points of human rights, academic freedom, free expression and equality law.


www.mumsnet.com...
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Here's another case' hearing verdict against Open Uni from a Mr. Cave:



1 The claimant’s belief in English Nationalism does not fall within
section 10 Equality Act 2010 as he has not shown it is worthy of
respect in a democratic society. It is incompatible with human
dignity and in conflict with the fundamental rights of others.

2 His claim for discrimination because of a philosophical belief is
dismissed.


If she gets the same judge, it may be the same verdict.

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk...
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