You have that backwards.

To believe something does not require proof, only the feeling that something is.

To truly know something requires proof.

Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by blacko

Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13

Originally posted by blacko
This video is more fake than Anna Nicole's breasts. I realize that this is ATS, but why are there so many gullible types here that latch onto to every new video/prediction as "the one"?

My best guess IS many ARE sensing SOMETHING up there that many are blocked for some reason from sensing... the vid looked real but I am no CGI intelligence. 1 however does feel there is LUNAR activities not mentioned here on EA*RTH. So I don't feel they are gullible more then sensing with their awareness and some overreacting out of PURE effect from what they may be sensing. Yes I am 1 who feels there IS lunar activity but that's me lol..

edit on 9/17/12 by Ophiuchus 13 because: (no reason given)

Feelings are not facts. I can feel that the moon is made out of cheese to my very essence but it does not make it so.

Learn to separate the two.

If I may................

I think it comes down to 'believing' and 'knowing'.

Believing is cerebral (based on information we've gathered) the other, Knowing is emotional (based on wisdom stored within our DNA)

Originally posted by blacko
You have that backwards.

To believe something does not require proof, only the feeling that something is.

To truly know something requires proof.

Say wha...............?

I also know I looked at the Moon and stars around midnight then I had a great dream.. No proof required.

Truth isn't taught. It's realized.

Originally posted by Richay699
While i find the video interesting i must adopt the pessimistic view that it will be discredited and debunked within 24hrs by some of our ATS sceptics. A real shame. Alas this is a growing trend these days when we find an interesting video that i certainly can't explain.

Descredited and debunked by ATS skeptics? Who cares what the people on here really think? Most are quite possibly unemployed or at least low level employees of some kind, hardly the makings of a person with any profound knowledge or incite as some on here like to claim (you know who you are). So called experts? Yeah OK!!

I can not explain this video and like the OP says, its hard to accurately say where the object lie in relation to the lens, the moon etc. Or if they are even there. Maybe added from another video.

Because something can be faked does not = its always faked...

This is why dismissal of anything is so easy...show something contrary to the claim and the intellectual laziness of people will take over and people will forever dismiss said claim as the contrary.

Yes it looks like CGI particle effects from adobe after Fx....it probably IS CGI....where people go wrong though is thinking that because something can be faked it can never be real...

If we ever did have a real legit video of ufo's leaving a crater from the moon it would be dismissed as particle effects every single time because intellectually people are lazy and won't address each issue but instead get tired of the "hogwash" and blanket dismiss every similar event to save themselves the "trouble"...

Can the moon landing be faked? Absolutely...
Because it can does it mean that it was? No...

Which is more probable?
That this video in the OP is CGI?
or
That there are actually UFO's flying out of a crater in the moon?

Which is more probable?
That the moon landing was faked Hollywood style from the comfort and safety of earth...
or
That we actually sent men half a million miles to and from the moon safely and successfully 6 times through the VA radiation belt?

Occam isn't always right...

Looks like someones been busy using Adobe After Effects.

Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by thomas_

Have you even watched the video yourself have just posted? Apparently not.

Have you bothered to read where I admit I was wrong? Apparently not.
So quick to insult.
Too lazy to be sure!

Yes he/she did not read where you admitted you were wrong because you haven't you've stated that its confusing and then seemed to follow the larger crowd that were telling you you were wrong.

How is that denying ignorance, even though the larger crowd is correct in this instance to blindly follow will only make trip on the obstacles placed in front of you.

I can't say if it's a CGI or something else but the "flight pattern" is chaotic - to put it mildly; if this would be a ships formation you would expect them to fly in a more orderly manner and not on the verge of collision. Looks like the term "near miss" is a everyday life rule for the alien pilots...
One can say that "aliens" don't have to follow the same regulations like we do when it comes about the flight in formation but still, can you imagine the ATC from Andromeda twisting his (its) brains around while watching these ships on the radar, trying to bring them to land? Now that would be a sight...
Were the pilots dead drunk?

Also some of the "objects" are wobbling and revolving violently around their axes without an apparent reason, these movements not being related to the propulsion or flight conditions, as only few of them are moving like this. Besides, if we can imagine living organisms able to cope with huge amounts of Gs due to acceleration, these chaotic movements would rip-off the ship itself... IMHO.

My 2 cents...

Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by loves a conspiricy



Its called reality.

There is no point debating things with you, or people like you. You have NO idea what you are on about. You skirt around issues and point blame at others because of your lack of understanding.

You are a funny lot, so naive/gullible.

In an honest attempt to learn and grow and accept constructive criticism, I have no idea what your complaint is. What does You have NO idea what you are on about ." mean
But in case you mean something like; I'm on something. Nope. I don't drug, drink or smoke.

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I think it means when you speak of a subject as knowing what your talking about when in reality your just spreading falsehoods.

Its not a complaint its called reality as was posted by Lovesaconspiracy,

"You skirt around issues and point blame at others because of your lack of understanding."

I seem to remember you blaming someone telling/teaching you about the Moons rotation or lack of or the side facing us and that's why you were wrong about the moon. This is what the quoted sentence means, that you didn't understand before and you excepted other info which conflicts with what you previously thought you knew then found that to be wrong and decided to blame the one teaching or telling you this incorrect info instead of taking the responsibility to prove to yourself what you think you know.

Originally posted by Sly1one
If we ever did have a real legit video of ufo's leaving a crater from the moon it would be dismissed as particle effects every single time because intellectually people are lazy and won't address each issue but instead get tired of the "hogwash" and blanket dismiss every similar event to save themselves the "trouble"...

If we did have a legit video of UFOs leaving a crater on the moon, then the UFOs would have to display the same amount of blurring, chromatic aberration, and atmospheric distortion as the rest of the moon. The ones in the video do not- they're too crisp.

Has any one else noticed that the particles have a very computerish lag as they are flying off the surface and into the empty void of space?

this video SCREAMS after effects...