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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Jordan River
You are doing classic greek philosophy rhetoric
Well thanks for letting me know.
Is classic greek philosophy rhetoric also considered trollish? I must have done it in a past life.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by RyanFromCan
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
And more out of context cherry picking from the bible to justify out of context cherry picking from the bible to justify using the bible as a tool to promote hate and bigotry, why am I not surprised with this coming from you.
What was I cherry picking? I am not the one bludgeoning people about chastity and hatred of specific women in the GOP. Did you forget that was also in Savage's nasty little diatribe? What kind of Christian are you that you support that?
Here is Savage telling Christian teens to ingore what is in the bible. Is this the sage advice you give to your youth group? What other issues do you discuss?edit on 30-4-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by RyanFromCan
Pay attention to the teachings of the bible? Savage is explicitly telling students to ignore the bible. I just don't believe you any more. I think you are posing as a youth group leader but just crusader for leftist ideals.
What I hear you saying is that as a leader of a Christian youth group, you support a man who tells students to ignore the bible.edit on 30-4-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by RandomEsotericScreenname
He clearly does not believe in the bible, but was using it as a tool, a weapon to bludgeon Christian teens, in some odd effort to try and convince them to come his way. I believe that was the point I was trying to make. So, yes in that fashion he was attacking the teachings of the bible and those who follow it. Or he might have been using the Christian bible example to make an example of the Christians in front of their secular peers. Perhaps both. Using ridicule to accomplish a goal is not so far fetched is it. It is part of the Alinsky way.edit on 30-4-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
John Foxe describes an argument with a "learned" but "blasphemous" clergyman, who had asserted to Tyndale that, "We had better be without God's laws than the Pope's." Swelling with emotion, Tyndale responded:
"I defy the Pope, and all his laws; and if God spares my life, ere many years, I will cause the boy that driveth the plow to know more of the Scriptures than thou dost!"
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Journalism Conference Organizers Apologize For Savage Invite
The National Scholastic Press Association and the Journalism Education Association – the organizations that invited bully extraordinaire Dan Savage to speak at their National High School Journalism Conference – have issued a press release denouncing Savage’s comments at the conference:
At one of the plenary keynote sessions of the two organizations’ semi-annual conventions, Mr. Dan Savage had been invited to share with students the power of social media in today's world as well as speak about the problem of bullying of gay youth, an issue all too familiar in many American schools. Mr. Savage’s comments on April 13 veered from the topic however. At a point in his speech he criticized the Bible, at times using vulgar language. An immediate consequence was that some students and advisers walked out on the speech.
www.breitbart.com...
NSPA and JEA consider Mr. Savage’s use of harsh language and profanity to be inappropriate and offensive to many in attendance. This is not what our organizations expected. In his attempt to denounce bullying, Mr. Savage belittled the faith of others – an action that we do not support. Ridicule of others’ faith has no place in our programs, any more than ridicule of the LGBT community would.
Student journalism, like professional journalism, is built on the foundation of free speech. It should not shy away from controversial topics and viewpoints. But it should promote and engage in civil discourse. Mr. Savage’s speech fell short of that standard, and for this our organizations apologize.
For people that think what Savage had to say was fine,
shame.
Originally posted by RandomEsotericScreenname
How did he veer off? The criticism by Savage on justification of gay bullying by people that use passages of the bible is completely on topic. How is that not on topic?
Vulgar language? He said BS, big deal, dealing with high school kids here, they use words like BS on a daily basis.
Immediate is right though, they immediately started walking out upon hearing the word bible.
What a load off bull
Originally posted by RyanFromCan
reply to post by SisyphusRide
in sheer numbers and Majorities yes I am, they are also the same theistic belief system called Monotheism which includes Judaism.
Yes, all the Abrahamic faiths, which share Leviticus, Sharia law is based on Leviticus, but I am willing to bet the world that you would be one of the loudest screamers if someone wanted to impose sharia law on you, very hypocritical of you.
Originally posted by SisyphusRide
American law is what it is... wholly American which is based on Protestant version of Christianity. America is just over 200 year old remember? We don't cut your hand off here if you steal nor do we throw homosexuals from a cliff.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by RyanFromCan
So now I have to use my Christian name as my screen name? Look, you are telling us here that you support someone who tells people to ignore the bible. It does not sound genuine to me. Maybe you just haven't thought through it.
My screen name has nothing to do with any of this. I simply doubt the genuineness of your stance, just like I doubt seriously that Savage takes the bible seriously. I'm not feeling guilty either.edit on 30-4-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)
Would you mind terribly citing me where Sharia Law originates from Leviticus? Perhaps there are similiarities, but I would appreciate your being very specific in citing the origin of Sharia Law.
“We can learn to ignore the (BS) in the Bible about gay people, the same way we have learned to ignore the (BS) in the Bible about shellfish, about slavery, about dinner, about farming, about menstruation, about virginity, about masturbation. We ignore (BS) in the Bible about all sorts of things,” he told an applauding crowd at the Journalism Education Association conference, prompting dozens of Christian students to walk out
Webster's Bible Translation
The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thy eye be single, thy whole body will be full of light.
American law is what it is... wholly American which is based on Protestant version of Christianity. America is just over 200 year old remember? We don't cut your hand off here if you steal nor do we throw homosexuals from a cliff.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by RyanFromCan
“We can learn to ignore the (BS) in the Bible about gay people, the same way we have learned to ignore the (BS) in the Bible about shellfish, about slavery, about dinner, about farming, about menstruation, about virginity, about masturbation. We ignore (BS) in the Bible about all sorts of things,” he told an applauding crowd at the Journalism Education Association conference, prompting dozens of Christian students to walk out
blog.chron.com...
Yes, you are right, I should not have asked you for such personally identifying information such as names of groups.
regarding my screen name
Webster's Bible Translation
The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thy eye be single, thy whole body will be full of light.
Matthew 6:22
I have said I believe that truth walks in more than one religion, and those would include Hindu and Buddhist.
Originally posted by RyanFromCan
reply to post by SisyphusRide
American law is what it is... wholly American which is based on Protestant version of Christianity. America is just over 200 year old remember? We don't cut your hand off here if you steal nor do we throw homosexuals from a cliff.
Actually, American law originates from British Common Law, and the Magna Carta, it is not Christian based, as a matter of fact, The fathers of the constitution were very careful to separate religion an law beyond stating that the law could not dictate how or what religion a person could practice, give freedom of religion, and prevent the government from interfering in religion or the practicing of it.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by SisyphusRide
American law is what it is... wholly American which is based on Protestant version of Christianity. America is just over 200 year old remember? We don't cut your hand off here if you steal nor do we throw homosexuals from a cliff.
Amish and some Jewish sects in America have their own law.
Shaira law would be the same as those.
Its no big deal.
Originally posted by RyanFromCan
The fathers of the constitution were very careful to separate religion an law beyond stating that the law could not dictate how or what religion a person could practice, give freedom of religion, and prevent the government from interfering in religion or the practicing of it.