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Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Christian Teens

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posted on May, 2 2012 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by RyanFromCan
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If you are trying to say that only politically right leaning individuals can possibly be Christians, then your ignorance and bigotry is shouting out loud and clear for all to hear. Funny, you would not be the first person to tell me that a liberal can't possibly be a Christian, even if Christ's teaching would suggest a socially conscious lifestyle.


I was thinking about this yesterday. Early Christianity predates communism as we know it by roughly 1800 years. Karl Marx is known as the father of modern communism(that is from the 1800's on) and Karl Marx wrote that "religion is the opiate of the masses" and it is a known fact that Marxism and communism is basically a leftist ideology and incompatible with religion in general and Christianity in particular. Marxists and communists generally have been atheist and yet there is historical evidence that Marxists have infiltrated the church for the purpose of reforming it or destroying it from within.
So, you tell me if you think that religion and such leftist ideologies as Marxism and communism are compatible? I've heard and read some comments where people assert that Jesus himself was communist or socialist, but I believe that is pure bunk, and an attempt to paint the Master himself as something for the purpose of promoting an agenda of socialism.
Some people say that religion is communistic in some ways, particularly the environment of the clergy where nuns and priests live in a cloistered place and taken care of by the community. However, I would say that there is a difference between the voluntary caring for the religious who have devoted themselves to God and the forced redistribution of income by the State for any arbitrary reason the State can come up with. Some people just do not seem to discern these differences.
If you were looking for a cut and dried answer from me, you are not going to get one.
I maintain that Paul's letter to the Corinthians shows that he discerns the difference between charity and forced redistribution.
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posted on May, 2 2012 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by RyanFromCan
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If you are trying to say that only politically right leaning individuals can possibly be Christians, then your ignorance and bigotry is shouting out loud and clear for all to hear. Funny, you would not be the first person to tell me that a liberal can't possibly be a Christian, even if Christ's teaching would suggest a socially conscious lifestyle.


I was thinking about this yesterday. Early Christianity predates communism as we know it by roughly 1800 years. Karl Marx is known as the father of modern communism(that is from the 1800's on) and Karl Marx wrote that "religion is the opiate of the masses" and it is a known fact that Marxism and communism is basically a leftist ideology and incompatible with religion in general and Christianity in particular. Marxists and communists generally have been atheist and yet there is historical evidence that Marxists have infiltrated the church for the purpose of reforming it or destroying it from within.
So, you tell me if you think that religion and such leftist ideologies as Marxism and communism are compatible? I've heard and read some comments where people assert that Jesus himself was communist or socialist, but I believe that is pure bunk, and an attempt to paint the Master himself as something for the purpose of promoting an agenda of socialism.
Some people say that religion is communistic in some ways, particularly the environment of the clergy where nuns and priests live in a cloistered place and taken care of by the community. However, I would say that there is a difference between the voluntary caring for the religious who have devoted themselves to God and the forced redistribution of income by the State for any arbitrary reason the State can come up with. Some people just do not seem to discern these differences.
If you were looking for a cut and dried answer from me, you are not going to get one.
I maintain that Paul's letter to the Corinthians shows that he discerns the difference between charity and forced redistribution.
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Marxism is a form of a religion. Look at feminism, a marxist ideology. Feminism's number one enemy is rationalism. The number two enemy of an emerging belief system, is the previous belief system. Marxist's attack both. They attack both the Church and the University to remove any possible competition because Marxism is a total fraud, a big lie. Communism, Socialism, all the branches and seedlings of Marxism all end up looking like the same thing feudalism.



posted on May, 2 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Nightwalk
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Poor guy. Hates the church and christians but probably was willing to give an arm and a leg to partake in a most christian tradition: marriage. Any wonder he's so angry?

Or probably another stooge hired to create further dissent.

Credit to the kids for walking out on that fudge-packer. The only unfortunate fact about the scenario was that everyone didn't walk out.


The reason everyone didn't walk out is because most of them agreed with him, despite his tone. Speaking of stooges, that is what I believe these 'christian teenagers' were - coached to walk out and create a scene because someone knew what was coming.

Actually what was coming was one or two tame swear words and a disagreeing opinion.

One more thing. Would you like to explain to us how marriage is a soley christian tradition.



posted on May, 4 2012 @ 02:07 AM
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yea I do think that. 85 percent of the time. also, call me out on whatever you want. I never said anything about 9/11 so label me in any jackass way you want, I won't care. I made my viewpoint known, somebody read it, its out there and I'm fine.

As far as the other thing you mentioned about homophobic kids being raised in strict households or something...? What? im not sure I understand why you mentioned that. and for the record since Im not a pro-christian conspiracy theorist I dont generally pay attention to COLLEGE studies.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 05:00 AM
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errr... if you didnt realize it, christians are the main source of intolerance on this planet. you take your kids to church on sunday and let the preacher tell them about everything god hates then they goto school monday morning and let loose on the student population.

it's about time he called some christian bullies pansy asses, they been calling their classmates that for decades

hope more schools hire this guy, so he can scare christian bullies straight ... or at least offend them enough they will stay home
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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by hisshadow
errr... if you didnt realize it, christians are the main source of intolerance on this planet.


Errr, exactly which planet are you on? This particular planet is in one huge mess principally because of the lack of morality and "anything goes", whether financial corruption, sexual corruption, or indeed any other corruption.

The US was founded and prospered by good upstanding Christians, but then in the past 2 or 3 decades the rot has sent in through moral corruption driven by atheists who have no moral framework only moral quicksands.

This jerk on the video is an offensive nasty piece of work. He is certainly entitled to his point of view but he is spreading hatred against Christians whereas most Christians love anyone regardless of whether they are gay or any other sin committed.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by FrankPoster

The US was founded and prospered by good upstanding Christians, but then in the past 2 or 3 decades the rot has sent in through moral corruption driven by atheists who have no moral framework only moral quicksands.



The "romanticizing" of Christianity is appalling. Face the real facts straight on.

Of course - - you do know that the Southern Baptist (of what this preacher is) are direct descendants of the Puritans.

The lame excuse every time a Christian acts in a way some Christian doesn't think he should: "He's not really Christian".


Atheism: Lack of belief in a god - nothing more.

Having to go outside yourself to have morals - - PURE IGNORANCE.

Our founding fathers were mostly Diests - - - NOT Christian.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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Repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth.

America was meant to be a pure Christian Theocracy.

Because everything in the Constitution is supported by the Bible.

After all, America was founded on Christian values and was meant for Christians, and Christians only.

America is not a secular place and those who think so are delusional.

America is meant to be a Christian nation with Christian values. No others may apply.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth.

America was meant to be a pure Christian Theocracy.

Because everything in the Constitution is supported by the Bible.

After all, America was founded on Christian values and was meant for Christians, and Christians only.

America is not a secular place and those who think so are delusional.

America is meant to be a Christian nation with Christian values. No others may apply.



What the hell are Christian values? They are common sense. Christians need to escape their egotistical bubble of ignorance.

Here are the original ten commandments from: Solon - - - Solon was born, we believe, around 638 B.C.E., and lived until approximately 558, but the date in his life of greatest importance to us is the year he was elected to create a constitution for Athens, 594 B.C.E.



1. Have no other gods before me [the God of the Hebrews].
2. Make no images of anything in heaven, earth or the sea, and do not worship or labor for them.
3. Do not vainly use the name of your God [the God of the Hebrews].
4. Do no work on the seventh day of the week.
5. Honor your parents.
6. Do not kill.
7. Do not commit adultery.
8. Do not steal.
9. Do not give false testimony against another.
10. Do not desire another's wife or anything that belongs to another.

Now, we can see at once that our society is entirely opposed to the first four, and indeed the last of these ten. As a capitalist society, we scoff at the idea of closing our shops on a choice market day. And our very goal in life is to desire--desiring is what drives us toward success and prosperity. The phrase "seeking the American Dream," which lies at the heart of our social world, has at its heart the very idea of coveting the success of our peers, goading us to match it with our own industry, and we owe all our monumental national success to this. Finally, our ideals of religious liberty and free speech, essential to any truly civil society, compel us to abhor the first three commandments. Thus, already half of Moses' doctrines cannot be the foundation of our modern society--to the contrary, they are anathema to modern ideals. www.infidels.org...



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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The first Amendment was meant for Christians only, in order to be more efficient Christians.Christians are the real Americans. We don't want no Muslims or Homosexuals and dirty rotten child sacrificing to satan Atheist in this country. In other words, only Christians have the right to freedom of religion, and what it really means is that only Christians have the freedom to worship God as they choose. Absolutely nobody else does.

America was never meant to be a secular nation. It was meant to be a theocracy. That's why Christians are allowed to put Christian displays on government buildings and atheistic displays are not.

People who believe that are quite delusional.

An ATHEISM IS A FAITH BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DISPROVE THE TRUE EXISTENCE OF OUR LORD GOD!

Atheism is a conspiracy that was created in order to attack the one true way of Christianity.

Hey, we're only doing for the greater good of mankind, which is to save your souls.

I don't understand why anybody doesn't want to go to heaven and serve and obey God.

It's completely irrational.


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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
The first Amendment was meant for Christians only, in order to be more efficient Christians.


Since most founding fathers were Deist - - that is just BS.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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No, that is a lie. All Founding Fathers were devout Christians. to call them Deists is a bunch of revisionist history by once again, those ultra bigoted atheists.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
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No, that is a lie. All Founding Fathers were devout Christians. to call them Deists is a bunch of revisionist history by once again, those ultra bigoted atheists.



No they weren't.

If they were - - they would have made the government based on Christian rule.

In fact - - they blocked - by intent - that possibility.
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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth.

America was meant to be a pure Christian Theocracy.

Because everything in the Constitution is supported by the Bible.

After all, America was founded on Christian values and was meant for Christians, and Christians only.

America is not a secular place and those who think so are delusional.

America is meant to be a Christian nation with Christian values. No others may apply.





The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...." and Article VI specifies that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."


You are delusional and extremist. No religion whatsoever may affect State affairs.

America is supposed to be a country with Separation of State and Religion.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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They did base the government on Christian rule.

Neener neener.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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The first Amendment was meant for Christians only, in order to be more efficient Christians.Christians are the real Americans. We don't want no Muslims or Homosexuals and dirty rotten child sacrificing to satan Atheist in this country. In other words, only Christians have the right to freedom of religion, and what it really means is that only Christians have the freedom to worship God as they choose. Absolutely nobody else does.


Jefferson seems to disagree with that.


"Separation of church and state" (sometimes "wall of separation between church and state") is a phrase used by Thomas Jefferson (in his 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists) and others expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States. The phrase has since been repeatedly cited by the Supreme Court of the United States.



The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...." and Article VI specifies that "no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."


Also, this is what Jeffrson said about christianity,


Thomas Jefferson "I have examined all the known superstitions of the world and I do not find in our particular superstition of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth."


www.worldfuturefund.org...

The statements you made there are absolutley amazing.

Such a blatant display of tyranny, arrogance, extremism, bigotry, anda false sense of rightiousness. Wow, simply amazing.


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posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
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They did base the government on Christian rule.

Neener neener.



No - they don't.

Common sense - Solon's Ten Commandments - Christian values - - - all the same thing.

Nothing is exclusively Christian.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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Thomas Jefferson was also a devout Christian who wrote his own Bible.

He also was a true friend of the Christian faith. He may have said those things, but he was probably just being sarcastic. After all, if he really believed those things about Christianity, why would he be so favorable to Christians?

He signed legislation that gave land to Indian missionaries, put chaplains on the government payroll, and provided for the punishment of irreverent soldiers. He also sent Congress an Indian treaty that set aside money for a priest’s salary and for the construction of a church.

So if he did things like that to help Christians, why would he be so critical of the faith?

Perhaps all he really was doing was just playing politics?

Nah, can't be.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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Everything belongs to Christianity. We have God on our side, so we can do no wrong, and can do anything we want to.

Disbelieve at the peril of your soul.

I have nothing more to say on this manner.



posted on May, 6 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
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Thomas Jefferson was also a devout Christian who wrote his own Bible.


No he wasn't.

During his time - church was a local social event. Everyone went to the "socials" - - no matter their belief or non belief.

Politics/religions was as much the topic of the time as it is today. But they did not have internet. They had "social gatherings" - - men's clubs - - and letter writing.

Christians who want to "make" Thomas Jefferson Christian - - "cherry pick" his correspondence in the same way they "cherry pick" Leviticus.




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