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Originally posted by Minori
reply to post by RSF77
They are not only hurting themselves but everyone around them.
That is why it is considered a selfish act.
All parties involved suffer.
Originally posted by doomedtoday
reply to post by Skepticesque
I am 24 and I have suffered from major depression from 5 years old, I know that sounds like bs but I assure you it isn't. I also have borderline personality disorder. I think about offing myself way too much, it really doesn't help when nothing ever goes your way or works out good for you in life. Killing yourself is the easy way out, even though if something doesn't work out for me within the next few years and I get stuck with all of this student loan debt without any hopes of a job, I'll pretty much have no choice anymore. I've called people who have killed themselves from depression cowards, half of them didn't even have it as bad as I do... Not everyone who does it is a coward. But if you do it because you're too weak to keep fighting, what are you? I fight this battle each and every day, it sucks, it really does, but you have to keep fighting - especially if you have children. I hate myself so much because I want to die and just have it all end already, I shouldn't feel that way, I have children that need me, that is me being selfish. Killing yourself from something like depression is a weakness, this is coming from a man who will never stop suffering from the condition. However, if you are terminal and suffering, and there's no chance of getting better, you should be able to make the decision, no reason to suffer if there is no hope anyway.
Part of the controversial health care reform proposal in Congress that discusses “end-of-life” counseling and medical procedures that could be rationed based on the age of the patient and other factors was written by suicide advocates who argue openly for the “right” to death, according to reports.
The sources for the provisions have been documented on a blog for Family Research Council Action and discussed by prominent pro-life columnist Jill Stanek.
“Come again that promotion of euthanasia isn’t part of Section 1233?” Stanek wrote in her new explanation of the dangers of the health care plan. “Kudos to FRC’s The Cloakroom …for drawing attention to the fact that the two authors of Section 1233 are major proponents of euthanasia and assisted suicide.”
The authors of the section include an Oregon congressman who has argued for assisted suicide before federal courts and an organization that openly boasts it helps “thousands of clients each year by … guiding their search for a peaceful, humane death….”
“The group Compassion & Choices, formerly known as the Hemlock Society, also says it had a hand in crafting Section 1233, writing July 27: ‘Compassion & Choices has worked tirelessly with supportive members of Congress to include in proposed reform legislation a provision requiring Medicare to cover patient consultation with their doctors about end-of-life choice (section 1233 of House Bill 3200),’” she wrote.
Originally posted by Manhater
I believe suicide is a human right. It is there body to do what they want to it and no one should intervene with that
In this capitalistic society. capitalism and democracy has taken over our human rights.
Originally posted by SubAce
Suicide is murder. No one has the right to murder. Just because it is self murder, does not justify it.
It is wrong and morally repugnant. How twisted to call it a human right.
If you're unsure on whether suicide is not murder think of all the other "cides" out there, homocide, fratridicde, infanticide, genocide, etc. etc. etc. Which other forms of these "murders" are also just? Was this a joke? I think I'm being played. But this world is so twisted, and the people on this board so morally crass, perhaps this is real?edit on 15-4-2012 by SubAce because: (no reason given)