Obama Calls for More Redistribution of Wealth, Declaring: ‘I Am My Brother’s Keeper’

reply to post by stars15k


While I understand and respect your point of view, looking at this from a racial standpoint is not the way to go...in my humble opinion. The economic problem in this country is an AMERICAN problem, not just white people. I'm black and I didn't vote for the guy. It's all rigged anyway. I know quite a few people in you and your husband's predicament and it isn't cool at all. But to categorize a whole race of people as a ''pet group'' is unfair and inaccurate. I, nor my family never felt ''entitled'' to anything, even though I come from a hardworking, military family, we never felt entitled, and if you think poor black people are living high on the hog, you're sadly mistaken. The veiled prejudices here are unbelievable. TPTB must be laughing their asses off at us. Believe this, there's not a whole bunch of black people somewhere behind the scenes orchestrating this horror show, and most black people are not on welfare. Blame the REAL people in power, and it's not Barry. As far as the ''American Dream'' goes, that's all it ever was for the common American, a dream. Blame the 'ment for all the billions in foreign aid to countries that despise us and wish for our demise. Blame the outrageously expensive military budget and black op dollars that are not even disclosed. Blame the ' ment for bailing out Wall Street and the CEO's taking home multi-million dollar BONUSES for doing basically NOTHING except manipulating numbers to the dismay of many and the advantage of very few. Now that's what I call entitlement.

reply to post by Nite_wing


I think what he is saying as all African Americans call each other Brother, that he want's to make sure his Bro's are taken care of, and his wife is probably the most radical first lady ever to hit the WHITE house.

reply to post by David9176
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Well there you go...$8 a week supposedly applied to us...believe me I looked for it..wasn't there...sorry to disappoint you.

And since I didn't buy a car or a house...crap there too.

And I am interested to know who was affected by that loophole adjustment, since it said it affected some middle class in a negative way?

And offering rebates for houses and cars, is just to technically prop up the auto industry and the realty industry...so bs there too.

My only question is: "who is his brother"

Pretty obvious his brother is not the U.S. citizens

So who is this masked maradyr that we need to know about that keeps getting federal governement funds

reply to post by dreamstalker


I must say first of all, I'm not ''African American''. I'm an American that happens to be black. Never been to Africa, so I'm not African anything. My parents, grandparents, great, great-greats and so on, were born here. As a matter of fact, my maternal great-great grandfather was white, and my great grandparents were part Native American, so I'm American. Another thing, black people don't run around calling each other brother...that was the 70's. And any man, that will stand beside me, regardless of color, is my brother, bro.

Originally posted by David9176
reply to post by timetothink

 

Well i already pointed out one aspect that you have completely ignored...but here:
STIMULUS PACKAGE

If you're in the market for a new car or your first house, the compromise stimulus bill offers modest tax breaks for both kinds of purchases. First-time home buyers would receive an $8,000 tax credit, and they wouldn't have to repay the government later as is required for the current $7,500 credit. An earlier Senate proposal would have provided all home buyers with a $15,000 credit.

The bill also would allow new car buyers to deduct the purchase's sales tax from taxable income.

A key element of the stimulus bill would provide most Americans with a tax credit of $400, or $800 for married couples. The tax credit would phase out for single taxpayers with adjusted gross incomes of $75,000 to $90,000 and married couples with AGI of $150,000 to $190,000.

The tax credit would increase the average taxpayer's paycheck by about $8 a week, prompting some to question whether it will do much to stimulate consumer spending. But for a single worker, the credit is the equivalent of a $500 salary increase, after taxes, says Clint Stretch, managing principal for tax policy at Deloitte Tax. "In this economy, if you walked into your boss' office and demanded a $500 raise, you'd probably get laughed at," he says.

This is ultimately the reason why no one seemed to notice...probably because increased insurance premiums equaled it out for most people. Also, as i stated in another post, these tax breaks were not sent out in checks like Bush's 2 rounds of stimulus checks.

Retirees who receive Social Security benefits and individuals on disability would receive a $250 tax credit, says Tom Ochsenschlager, vice president of taxation for the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants. Because these individuals typically don't have withholding, they'll likely receive a check, he says.

•An expanded earned income tax credit and child tax credit for low-income families.

•A higher education tax credit. Parents of college students would be eligible to claim a tax credit of up to $2,500. The credit is more generous than the existing Hope Scholarship Tax Credit, which maxes out at $1,800 and is available only for the first two years of college, says Amy McAnarney, executive director of H&R Block's Tax Institute. The tax credit, which would be available in 2009 and 2010, phases out for single taxpayers with AGI of $80,000 to $90,000 and married taxpayers with AGI of $160,000 to $180,000.

•A stopgap measure designed to prevent the alternative minimum tax from hitting more than 24 million households in 2009. The AMT was designed to prevent extremely wealthy taxpayers from using loopholes and deductions to avoid taxes. But because it was never indexed to inflation, it has expanded to encompass more upper-middle and some middle-class taxpayers. About 4 million owed the AMT last year.

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All well and good,

but only for a select few.

The majority of Americans as usual,

got nothing but chickenfeed and bird crap.

Originally posted by pajoly

Originally posted by FeatherofMaat
Good. That is the way humans should be. The Right wants ppl to die to protect profit.

I dare say this is true in a practical sense when you model out the real effect of their budgets. Universal healthcare?! Why that's tyranny!!! Put it another way and it is just as factual to say that the Right is thrilled that we are the only industrialized nation that treats a 3 year child's terminal illness as a profit center. If they could process and reason, they'd see things for what they are, not what their media masters and talking heads demagog.

The weird part of all this is that there are aspects of the medical industry in my country I don't have a problem with making money to a certain degree. Why and when? First both clinics and hospitals perform a vital service as teaching and residency facilities and that can cost more money for a lot of reasons then come in the "front door". They also perform vital research, and thats hard to do in a non-clinical environment. Med stuff 101 in effect.

So be it, but heres a little clue as to how to defray some of those costs and not sticking it to patients or there insurance companies, who don't have insurance and won't be covered if Obama care is trashed, and insurance companies who are quite well off thank you, largely for kicking sick people off the policy, then stick it up our assets , of course with a surcharge,or more tax's.

That can defer costs by having the pharmaceutical companies who believe me want access to Doctors and insurance paying for it pay a fee to allow them to pitch the Rx's that those people (MD's DO's, RNP. and PA's) all are trained in such facilities and the money made is enormous. And don't give me the crap that will increase costs. How? Only if a bogus charge is added and this should be defined and a requirement. not to pull this crap. The cost of new drugs not to mention those that can be prescribed TODAY in the US makes that mute. I know a little about this as my first job was as biomedical products development a senior position in a new biotechnology company so I know a lot about how this works.

The greater costs for drug development are going down, technology has been hugely streamlined since my days in that area in the early 1980's. But we have many more ways like when new protocols come out by those firms that develop them, usually most do not realize that any clinic and hospital will fall all over it self to get first crack at application of new techniques. Because it is ultimately profitable, who doesn't want the best modalities? Truth is thats something that those hospitals and clinics (start with the hospitals that have associated clinics and many do) will beg for.

Its a money maker by saying "hey look at us, we do this cool approach that the other guys don't"! And we can prove in the record what we can do and why we do it. That backs up people who ask questions about heath care. Will everyone PLEASE do? Also gives an audit trail to prevent being sued if they follow the rules, and keep records and I prefer secure papers in a safe, NOT on a computer and because the problem we have with internet security with medical records is frankly a freakish dreadful joke.

And thats 1 example of internet so-called security&privacy. Very scary, my cat can tap into so-called "secure" records that use the net, [and when he walks on the keyboard if active? Until I told my system to disregard, my computer sent stuff to people who said were you using some kind of code, or just bombed out of your mind? In truth neither I did lie, a joke, saying maybe kitty was being cryptic. Some even thought "kitty" was some code! Christ. That IS scary. Nope. Thats kitty on the keyboard "saying" stuff like; ddgbhw22cvfiorRvdv etc. Seriously gang, woo...]

The next thing to look for is the advanced technology that believe me as a guy who invents cool stuff that can do things that no one else can, far as I know, well yet, when given such unique technology people go from greedy to just frothing at the moth. And guess what? THAT need not be costly because if proven along side "conventional methods" (what I call primitive stuff), the ways to make money even my cat can see the value of access to those customers. THIS IS A NO BRAINER. I am kidding about kitty insight, but then I can't catch mice, and don't want to...

But when it comes to clinic visits and hospital care, why when we have if people get off soaking people who need care, and why not? Just use other rational methods to make money? I would love to see PAITENT CARE on a non-profit or minimul above costs basis, if I can prove ways said organizations can make more money then they can today. I mean it. And I want to prove it. Yes working on it and need to work a lot harder. Our cost in the US are insane, and people die sooner the other nations w/like technology. Very dumb and I'm very pissed about.

reply to post by xuenchen


While we're asking Barack questions how about one as to Where's he getting the money from? China's going to get tired of lending us money, if any of they're rhetoric is believable they all ready have gotten tired. As for the media and their "glowing" reports about the economy, well they must be using that third set acounting records they pull out for the sheeple.

Originally posted by rexrugerblack
reply to post by dreamstalker

 

I must say first of all, I'm not ''African American''. I'm an American that happens to be black. Never been to Africa, so I'm not African anything. My parents, grandparents, great, great-greats and so on, were born here. As a matter of fact, my maternal great-great grandfather was white, and my great grandparents were part Native American, so I'm American. Another thing, black people don't run around calling each other brother...that was the 70's. And any man, that will stand beside me, regardless of color, is my brother, bro.

I can appreciate everything you have said, however, If a white man stood on a corner in lets say Compton CA and told everyone that they were not African Americans they would be lucky to escape, because you are educated and enlightened unfortunately you are not in the majority, if everyone had your outlook there would not be any racial problems,you are a nice person to boot, Bro.

Originally posted by blueorder
the hilarity, given the extravangant entourage he and his wife have, to come off with a statement like this is just too funny- divvy up ALL of your wealth above the national average, then start waffling with absoloute BS like this

The President of the U.S. makes a lot less than a whole lot of other Presidents.

The most recent salary increase, to $400,000/year from $200,000/year, took effect when George W. Bush became President. The President also receives a $50,000 non-taxable expense account. The compensation of the President is controlled by law, specifically 3 USC 102 ("Compensation of the President", Title 3, Section 102, of the US Code).

You can view the section of the U.S. Code dealing with presidential salaries at the United States Code website published by the Office of the Law Revision Counsel, U.S. House of Representatives.

uscode.house.gov...()%20%20AND%20((3)%20ADJ%20USC)%3ACITE%20%20AND%20(CHAPTER%20ADJ%20(2)) %3AEXPCITE

You can also view this section of the U.S. Code at Cornell University Law School's LII/Legal Information Institute's U.S. Code collection website.

www.law.cornell.edu...

The University of Michigan's Document Center has also created this page which summarizes Presidential and Vice Presidential Salaries from 1789 to the present. President George Washington, for example, was offered a salary of $25,000/year.

www.lib.umich.edu...

Text Service Employees International Union The former president, Andy Stern, was paid $306,388 in salary and benefits from the union in 2009. In his final year, Stern got a 5 percent pay boost, Read more: nation.foxnews.com... American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees Gerald McEntee, who was first elected union president in 1981, was paid $479,328 in salary and benefits in 2009. Over the past decade, his salary has increased at almost 4 percent a year. Read more: nation.foxnews.com... Laborers' International Union of North America Terence O’Sullivan, union president since 2000, received $618,000 in salary and benefits in 2009 Read more: nation.foxnews.com... American Federation of Teachers Randi Weingarten, who was elected president in 2008, received $428,284 in salary and benefits. Read more: nation.foxnews.com...

Compared to these guys, I don't think $400,000 and a $50,000 non-taxable expense account is too much for the
U.S. President to be paid

It sounds his heart's in the right place but he's trying to work within the status quo. Not going to happen. Drastic times require drastic measures. Only RP is willing to get to the root of the problem.

Originally posted by circlemaker
It sounds his heart's in the right place but he's trying to work within the status quo. Not going to happen. Drastic times require drastic measures. Only RP is willing to get to the root of the problem.

Ron Paul is not some sort of Superman who alone can save the nation, but I suspect that Paul understands that the meme of "drastic times requires drastic measures" is a falsehood, and what desperate times require are measured responses.

reply to post by xuenchen


I don't understand how a party can claim to be Christian and have such unChristian like values?

I will never understand a party that claims everyone working and doing what they do best for the good of the society "socialist" and yet tries every means possible to encourage women to stay home and reproduce.

It is an old adage that claims an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. You can save so many lives of innocent people whose only fault is being born in poverty.
Unless you are building a structure that makes a profit off the sick, the ignorant and the poor (and there is a good argument this is exactly what corporations are trying to do) you would educate and RAISE ALL these underprivileged classes up to acceptable minimum standards. It will make good economic sense and not cost your society as much down the road. Intelligent choices end up being A LOT CHEAPER and beneficial to society in the long run.
Cost to society, and what is in the best interest of "the people" is what is important. If two thirds of "your people" can be identified as "middle income" or "the poor" - you need to do what is in their best interests. They are YOUR PEOPLE.
There is a country called Bhutan that runs its country based on the happiness and contentment of the people. What a concept. Most people cannot in good conscious watch another starve and die. You cannot actually call yourselves human if you are not at the very least... HUMANE.

D-block!!

reply to post by dreamstalker


Thanks for the positive feedback Dreamstalker. Peace bro.

Obama's brothers are Monsanto, Goldman Sachs, Insurance Industry, Big Pharma, Big Oil, etc.
Watch what he and the rest of the scum on both (actually one in reality) parties DO. The rhetoric is simply to divide the populace for the plutocrats' benefit.

STOP THE DISINFO/PROPAGANDA!
OBAMA IS NOT A FREAKIN' SOCIALIST!

Dammit.

The mans mouth is like a 2 inch fire hose filled with suger and spice, a lie to Obama is like breathing is to every one else, he can not survive with out it.

It does not matter how badly he fails, what ever he says is true because he said it, that is what he and the choir he speaks to belive.

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux


I'd say ending the fed and bringing the troops home is pretty drastic as far as the status quo is concerned. Meanwhile Obama is trying to treat the symptom rather than the disease.

Originally posted by circlemaker
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

 

I'd say ending the fed and bringing the troops home is pretty drastic as far as the status quo is concerned. Meanwhile Obama is trying to treat the symptom rather than the disease.

edit on 4/3/2012 by circlemaker because: (no reason given)

Both ending the Federal Reserve and the withdrawal of troops require measured responses, not desperate measures.

Originally posted by Snoopy1978
Obama's brothers are Monsanto, Goldman Sachs, Insurance Industry, Big Pharma, Big Oil, etc.
Watch what he and the rest of the scum on both (actually one in reality) parties DO. The rhetoric is simply to divide the populace for the plutocrats' benefit.

STOP THE DISINFO/PROPAGANDA!
OBAMA IS NOT A FREAKIN' SOCIALIST!

Dammit.

Sounds like Marxism/Corporatism.

Refined many times over 100 years of course.