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Originally posted by elitegamer23
reply to post by braindeadconservatives
i like your idea, its out of the box and could start a discussion that would really move our country forward.
something else needs to happen because the current model has killed the middle class and it doesnt seem to pull the poor out of poverty.
Originally posted by xuenchen
Originally posted by elitegamer23
reply to post by braindeadconservatives
i like your idea, its out of the box and could start a discussion that would really move our country forward.
something else needs to happen because the current model has killed the middle class and it doesnt seem to pull the poor out of poverty.
I agree to a point.
But the middle class has gone down because of job losses and real estate downturns.
(at no fault of the average citizen)
The tax rates take care of themselves usually when the general economy favors the middle class.
(job availability and good wages etc.)
A large percentage of today's food stamp and unemployment recipients actually prefer to work full time jobs
with benefits. The temporary assistance is not enough to pay the normal standard of living bills.
Too many people today have been knocked down to part time, and have lost benefits.
That's the big problem.
Now add in the house payments and we have a continuing problem.
Originally posted by xuenchen
Obama Calls for More Redistribution of Wealth, Declaring: ‘I Am My Brother’s Keeper’
Obama made a campaign speech at the University of Vermont and used some Bible references
to somehow justify his well known "Redistribution of Wealth" agenda.
Most of the rhetoric was nothing new.
He mentioned his "double down" theory several times,
along with continuation of other failed policies.
I wonder if the "double down" will happen to the deficit ?
Obama has Increased the national debt by $4 trillion since 2009.
His plan for 2013-2016 may be to "double" the $4 trillion and make it an even $8 trillion more.
(God help us !)
The national debt is about the ONLY thing that seems to have been "equally" distributed !!
By Terence P. Jeffrey
April 2, 2012
(CNSNews.com) - In a campaign speech in Vermont on Friday, President Barack Obama referenced the biblical story of Cain and Abel in condemning what he called "you're-on-your-own economics" while arguing for a number of policies that involve government transferring wealth from one group of citizens to another—including providing public schools with more money for teachers’ salaries, freezing the interest rates on government-backed student loans, supporting companies developing biofuels, electric batteries and wind and solar power and funding scientists who are doing research on stem cells and climate change.
“I hear politicians talking about values in an election year,” Obama said. “I hear a lot about that. Let me tell you about values. Hard work, personal responsibility--those are values. But looking out for one another. That’s a value. The idea that we’re all in this together. I am my brother’s keeper. I am my sister’s keeper. That’s a value.”
In Genesis, Adam and Eve’s first-born son is Cain and their second-born son is Abel. Cain becomes a farmer and Abel becomes a shepherd. When Cain offers the fruit of his farming to God and Abel offers a lamb, God is pleased with Abel’s offering but not Cain’s. Cain then kills Abel. When God asks Cain where Abel is, Cain says: “Am I my brother’s keeper?”
When Obama said on Friday, "I am my brother's keeper," he was addressing a crowd of campaign supporters at the University of Vermont in Burlington, Vt.
After promoting his past accomplishments including the bailout of General Motors and Chrysler, removing private banks from the government-guaranteed student loan business, and his health-care law, Obama pointed to policies he wants to pursue in the future.
"Double-Down" sounds more like "Double-Talk"
BTW Barack, just WHO got all that extra spending money anyway ?
The average American citizen KNOWS they didn't get any !!
Originally posted by yeti101
reply to post by AwakeinNM
your talking about a very specific kind of socialist of the past . whereas in 2012 most people talk about social democracy which has really binned the idea of moving to a purely socialist economy
Instead its more about having a mixed market economy with good funding for social programs, improving capitalism to make it more stable, helping those in need like the poor and destitute. Yes this requires bigger redistribution of wealth. I'm all for itedit on 3-4-2012 by yeti101 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by yeti101
reply to post by SisyphusRide
hitler didnt do the evil things he did because he was a socialist. The same reason he didnt do them becuase he was catholic. He was just a monster.edit on 3-4-2012 by yeti101 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
Indeed... He does make sense, and that is what always scares me the most. His ACTIONS betray the level of duplicity in everything he says. If he FOLLOWED even a part of what he promised before being elected, we'd be in a considerably different and better nation almost 4 years later.
Instead.... He's only stuck to the worst of what he promised and even Iraq ended on a timeline Bush signed into a formal agreement, not Barry.
I'd remind everyone that Hitler was elected and rode the wave of public love to power....at first. Stalin didn't murder 10's of millions of Russian civilians in his purges all by himself. He had millions who thought he had some pretty good ideas...even while the bloodbath was going on. Every madman had a % that adore them and just see nothing they do as being half as bad as it is.
I pray for our nation we don't require 4 additional years to let this monster fully develop, We've SEEN how this man treats his own blood family. They're alcoholics getting DUI's in Mass or they are living in abject dirt poverty in Kenya. So much for being his Brother's keeper. If that is what keeping looks like, please lose me ASAP.