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So, for us novices, how did you and your wife actually visualize and focus on these issues? Was it together as a unit? Was it at a specific time like a prayer or a meditation, or was it just internalized to bring it to the top of your mind throughout the day?
Also, is there any regret to this? I know you didn't wish for the inheritance, and you never would have wanted it this way, but the results are nice. The old saying goes, "Be careful what you wish for." Do you have any regret or feelings of responsibility for having your dreams come true in this manner?
Why cant you give credit to something usefull instead of wellwishing?
How can anyone use this information to improve their lives? As somone whos been on ATS for a while i expect better than this ignorant delusional trash to come out of your mouth.
Originally posted by Gazrok
reply to post by getreadyalready
Some, yes, of course. But, he's been in poor health for years, and he's largely ignored it despite all of our pleas to keep going to the doctors. Also, he was never there for her as a father, and he knew it and owned up to it (she's the one who kept trying to rebuild the relationship despite it all, as she never felt she could get his attention. She learned otherwise as we were going through the house. He kept everything she'd ever given him, had photos of her all over, etc. It was very touching, really). Before he passed, he said she deserved this, and that at least he could do this for her. Still, none of us wanted to see this. We always assumed he had decades more to live (he was 67), so we never even considered this as an avenue towards the goals.
Originally posted by Gazrok
I know, I know...yeah right... (and yes, I know it was a marketing gimmick designed to do what it did, make money for the author)...
Well, squawk all you want, but the principles seemed to work for us.
My wife and I have been practicing some of that thinking for the past couple of years. (mostly just so we don't dwell on the negative)
Initially, we did almost immediately see some strange coincidences (money we never expected, etc.).
Now, it's really happened.....
It's all a bit overwhelming (as this has all happened within a week), and of course, I can't tie it directly to this philosophy, but I can say that I believe that constantly visualizing and focusing on (and defining) what you want out of life, does really seem to put the Universal cogs in motion to actually make those things happen.
Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
reply to post by Gazrok
the secret works
the problem is you don't know the whole secret
Although there is much sadness in the instrument of HOW it happened (her father passed away, and we have an inheritance), the result is the result. We never would have wished for it, and indeed, we thought we'd have many more years with him around. It's difficult too, as the sadness competes with the excitement and yet guilt of the whole situation....
what happened here is that you forgot The Law of Binding or Limiting.
here's the complete secret
THE ART AND PRACTICE OF GETTING MATERIAL THINGS THROUGH CREATIVE VISUALIZATION
Originally posted by satron
Yeah, it's luck. The universe is uncaring to what you want. Everyone doesn't get what they want, that's silly, I can give you many instances of me wanting something and not getting it. Have you ever got something you didn't want? How do you explain that? What about people that starve to death? Is is because they didn't want food strong enough to have it fall out of the sky into their lap?
EDIT: When you say that the universe will give you what you desire in the face of the fact that not everyone gets what they want, to me that is a step away from people claiming that the universe is on their side more than other people, like they are some kind of chosen people and the less fortune shouldn't be cared about, and why should we? If the universe doesn't hold them high, why should we?
Originally posted by thedeadtruth
"The Secret" was a marketing scam on a few levels. But mainly a "mindset set up" by a company called USANA.
After reading the book you, if you were approached by one of the " you can become a millionaire in 2 years without the hard work" happy clappy network marketing BS.
I know a number of people who feel for it soon after being given the book by a "friend"
It was a set up for lazy people. Plain and simple.
Originally posted by azamber
There's more to it than just wanting. I have also found that thoughts have a way of manifesting, and the state of mind behind the desire seems to be key. You're right, everybody wants. But I've found with myself, and through watching others, that if you are in a positive, open, receptive place, you are more likely to bring your desires into your life. I guess some of it is common sense. People who are succesful have to believe in themselves. Alternately, those who have the most negativity and self hatred tend to bring very little positivity into their lives, but when they change their attitude, their circumstances change.
As for people who are starving, many incredible survival stories are about those who thought "outside the box", which wouldn't be totally possible with a negative attitude. But the problem with The Secret and What the Bleep Do We Know is that it puts responsibility ENTIRELY on the individual. This is a complex universe with many wants and needs floating around. It would be ridiculous to believe that ALL events in one's life can be attributed to the mindset of the individual, although mindset plays a crucial role.
Originally posted by LifeIsEnergy
"Don't be greedy for happiness or positivity, that only breeds more sorrow and negativity."
"The accumulation of positivity can be just as damaging to the mind as the accumulation of negativity. Take everything in moderation as it is needed."
These are far more powerful 'secrets'. As the magicians and shamans who hold occult powers that can manifest their desires, communicate telepathically, and so on, see the Buddha's awakening as an unattractive and undesirable thing, they endlessly are unknowingly searching for what he already has found, happiness and satisfaction.
Originally posted by clowdstalker
Originally posted by satron
I don't know the answer, but I know when I see a wrong one.
Hate to be the party pooper here, but I rather agree with Satron. It is not fair to tell someone that their life sucks because they don't want it to be better enough...or that they have somehow missed steps in their ability to visualize their dreams properly or that ergo, they don't know how to dream or that their dreams are somehow wrong or broken. What a real # thing to say or imply to someone.
***I am sorry dude...but your life sucks and your children starved to death because you didn't visualize yourself in a better place and you didn't really want them to have food badly enough. Or, in following the logic, you were Actually visualizing their demise and are therefore to blame both directly and indirectly for their deaths as well as your own crummy life. Sucks to be you.
***Well clearly it was your own fault you were raped madam...you must have visualized the experience happening and brought it on yourself, next time practice better cognitive control....this is 'The Secrets' line of thinking.
If the phenomena exists as we are to lead to believe then it Must go both ways, not just for the fluffy, happy, touchy-feely good stuff. In for a penny in for a pound, and it is wrong on so many levels.
Originally posted by IblisLucifer
I found this video to make the far without structure of are universe seemingly like the structure of the human mind in a CT scan or observed close within
That made it all seem so infinitely close but at the sametime infinitely far from me
Originally posted by neoholographic
I think the Secret is great and yes it works. I don't understand the skeptics. Why would they care if others feel they get a benefit from the Secret?
Look it's the placebo effect and if a person thinks it helps them then it will and there's no problem in that.
I have a friend who has to drink Vitamin Water every morning because he believes it gives him energy for the day. I think it just taste like flavored water and it does nothing for me. I will never try to knock him down though because he believes he's getting this big boost and so he is.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by satron
What would constitute evidence of my elbow? You want my medical records or a photo of the healed scar?
I blew myself up. I had full thickness burns over 25% of my body, and several skin graft surgeries as well as a stay in a burn unit and 2 years of physical therapy and 2 years of wearing compression garments. My right elbow refused to heal. After a year of failed grafts, it was still bleeding, cracking, oozing, and occasionally getting infected. Through a random interaction I met a acupuncturist for an interview on a college project. He asked me if I had any problem areas he could demonstrate on, and I showed him my elbow. He said he could fix it, and I thought it would be interesting for the project, so I let him do "surrounding the dragon" on the elbow. It was a series of pins and electric shocks.
The elbow was healed within 2 weeks.
It was painless and free, whereas the multiple surgeries had been neither! I called my vascular surgeon, he asked me to come see him, he agreed that it was healed, and he said he had heard of it working before, but he had never seen it firsthand.
As for the Aikido Master, that was 20 years ago, and I didn't think to bring a camera, LOL! I'm sure there are still some masters around that would be happy to demonstrate, look one up and make sure to bring a camera. I can attest to his weight before, during, and after. I personally picked him up off the floor, by myself, with ease, and a few moments later I couldn't have budged him with a dump truck. There is no physical explanation, I guarantee it, there is only a spiritual one.
Originally posted by wrdwzrd
this conversation will never end so probably best for all parties involved to just agree to disagree.
the power of positive thought and manifestation has nothing to do with the Secret. I believe in it and I have never read the book nor do I plan on it. Its a mystical teaching from way back and there is truth in it BUT if you think that's a load of crap that's cool too.
We are all creating our own worlds with our thoughts so why limit yourself and put up barriers?
Horrible things happen to some people and it changes their lives for the better....
Some people win the lottery and it destroys their lives forever....
It's about looking into WHY something happens and learning from it, taking the lesson to heart but most of the time when something bad happens we say "life sucks, its so hard" instead of realizing the potential in every action.
But whatever, its free choice, believe what you want. If you are a skeptic, try it. See what happens....