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We fabricated drug charges against innocent people to meet arrest quotas, former detective testifies

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posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 08:17 PM
Especially appalling this is another incident of Drug War justice. Argue that it could happen with most any type of crime? What is more easily perpetrated, stigmatizes more thoroughly, carries a potentially longer sentence, and more difficult to convincingly deny than to have drugs planted?

A person can be stopped, searched, arrested, convicted, incarcerated, and stigamatized for the rest of their life because they look like a drug user. When it comes down to the citizens word against the law enforcement officer's that damning piece of evidence that is so easily planted is all that is necessary. The officer earns his brownie point for the day, the court gets a conviction, the prison gets another hand for cheap labor, and the innocent victim is scarred for life. Enough of this insanity already.

posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 10:45 PM
This is even worse than cops beating people up. A drug charge could put the person in jail, plus affect them for the rest of their lives if it stays on their record, which I don't see any reason why it would be taken off.

This is despicable behavior, and it just confirms that not only do traffic cops have ticket quotas, but police also have arrest quotas. At least in some places. I don't suspect this goes on in smaller towns or cities, but I could be wrong. Considering the city this happened in, I am not that surprised to be honest.

And this is just the stuff we're hearing about. Can you imagine what other charges have been fabricated? Are they going to be able to tell who was wrongly charged and convicted? They should get these peoples' names cleared ASAP. I would love to see all of these guys rot in jail.

The police are supposed to protect us from criminals, yet time and time again many have shown that they are the worst criminals of all. They don't care about justice, or the fact that those they are "charging" are the ones who pay their salaries. They forget who they work for, and what their job is supposed to accomplish. There shouldn't even be quotas. How ridiculous is that?

posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 10:56 PM
The problem is too many cops, too few criminals.

Need more criminals for the cops to arrest, otherwise they've got to make up charges against the innocent to meet their quotas, and justify taking home that paycheck.

posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 10:57 PM
Why am I not surprised? Its just another way for the Fed to make another buck or 2 or three from us. So.....when are you guys gonna get tired of this?

posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 11:36 PM
There is a "quota" because the NYPD is a for profit corporate business. Look it up on Dun & Bradstreet if you do not believe me. The state of New York is also a corporate business as well as the United States and the other 49. Now tell me how does a business make money?

posted on Oct, 13 2011 @ 11:56 PM

Originally posted by shebearhus
There is a "quota" because the NYPD is a for profit corporate business.

True, it's the same reason that Afghan opium has increased since
the occupation.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 12:03 AM
This is why I left USA long ago for Russia.At least in Russia they don't have insane laws and arrest quotas.Police is corrupt ,but they don't jail you for every small thing.There's even greater freedom of speech there.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 12:08 AM
Absolutely appalling to think there are innocent people being deliberately placed in jail by cops simply to meet arrest quotas.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 12:46 AM
This stuff happens, and that's unfortunate. But I don't believe this guy's story for a minute. He's only working to save his own a$$ with a lighter sentence. I wouldn't doubt if some of the cops he fingers are innocent.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:21 AM
These types of things have been going on for ages in all sorts of cities. It's been a large focus of rap music for quite some time as well.

I mean when Ice-T was rapping about cops people thought it was nothing more than a rapper being vulgar, hating on police period when police like this are exactly the ones he was speaking about.

This is no different than racism from back in the day. Only its classism, though many happen to be minority still.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:35 AM
reply to post by Corruption Exposed

Of course they were . Where do you think they get all of those fake statistics about high "Black Crime Rates" ?

Welcome to reality. Now get over the shock and do something about it people.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:37 AM
Situations such as this is why I say there is no longer such a thing as "a few bad apples" anymore. This was a policy, so where are all these "good cops" who blew the whistle?

I can tel you where they were.... they were backing up their fellow Officer.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:40 AM
I'm just sitting here thinking to myself and wondering how many drug-related convictions are going to pretty much have to be handed an appeal or overturned altogether in light of this.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:54 AM

Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
I'm just sitting here thinking to myself and wondering how many drug-related convictions are going to pretty much have to be handed an appeal or overturned altogether in light of this.

My best guess would be none.

If this was the case we already be seeing the Justice Department looking into every drug case that came out of these Precincts, but we are not seeing that. There will be no appeals. no over turned convictions. Those people are SOL.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 01:55 AM
This isn't just a problem with police officers. There is a systemic breakdown of our entire judicial system. There are so many abuses of power that go on everyday that most people do to even realize. You yourself could very well just as easily find yourself prosecuted by a system that doesn't really care whether you are guilty or not. They do not care if your action was justified or not. The only thing the prosecutor sees when your case comes up is another conviction they can put on their resume so they can run ads saying they are tough on crime.

You have to understand there are many "good" cops, that legitimately wish to do the right thing. But these men and women are hampered by those that do not. And the fact is the mentality is if you do not back them you get painted into a corner that ultimately will drive you out of a job or to levels of workplace hostility to the likes most will never understand. Which in turn makes them just as bad by default for not speaking out.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 02:04 AM

Originally posted by 2manyquestions

Originally posted by boncho
Does anyone else think there is something fundamentally wrong with there being "quotas" on things like this?

Police, ideal wise, should be meant to protect the public and make society more civil through public mediation. Not meet their monthly arrest targets....

The reason there's an arrest quota in the first place, is because many police departments need a way to justify their existence. If the city is crime-free, what do we need cops for? Basically the more crime there is, the more cops are needed, the more funding they receive. There are quotas for traffic tickets as well.

As we know, cops have a certain protective 'brotherhood' among them. They don't rat each other out, they cover up each other's mistakes or intentional breach of law, and they basically disown any cop who comes out with the truth. Certain police departments that have these quotas in place will do unethical things in order to keep their jobs safe from elimination.

I'll give you an example. If you have a cop in the family, you might be the recipient of a certain sticker you place on your drivers license. When you break the law (let's say you were speeding or talking on your phone) and you are pulled over, you hand the cop your license, and when he sees the sticker on your license he will not give you a ticket. I know someone with this sticker. He was pulled over by a cop and handed him his license. When the cop saw the sticker, he almost flipped. It was obvious the cop REALLY wanted to nail him for speeding, and the frustration was very apparent. He started yelling and questioning him about who he knew in what police department, and wanted to know the other cop's name. In the end the cop didn't give him a ticket. He let him go, but believe you me.... had that sticker not been on his license, he was gonna get fined pretty good. This cop from a completely different police department 80 miles away wasn't willing to break this secret cop code of conduct!!!
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Good to see people still getting stars for flat out making # up....

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 02:08 AM
reply to post by MrWendal

Good point. And with a lot of the sentences they hand out these days, most of those people probably wouldn't even know what to do with themselves, anyway, they've been in the clink for so long.
edit on 14-10-2011 by AnIntellectualRedneck because: (no reason given)

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 02:15 AM

Originally posted by dezertdog
post by Corruption Exposed

A surveillance tape inside the bar showed they had been framed.

Read more:

Seems the NYPD needs a lesson in surveillance tape confiscation from the FBI i.e. the 9-11 Pentagon attack (said with sarcasm) .

These are just lazy detectives.If they tried a little I'm sure they could bust some actual criminals to meet their quotas.
**Right.But I guess its a lot faster and easier to frame innocent people rather than conduct lawful investigations.What a pathetic web they weave.On a side note I think every arrest and conviction by these phonies will have to be reexamined.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 02:15 AM
The thing is, this wouldn't happen if arrest didn't equal "tough on crime". A reduction of arrest should show us that crime is down not throwing more people in prison.

posted on Oct, 14 2011 @ 02:52 AM
Well they do more than this.They plant drugs during searchs in your house or car to frame people on faulse charges.They plant pornographic material of people computers to frame them as a pedifile.

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