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Originally posted by eeks4
reply to post by steveknows
What about the computer chips and implants in peoples brains and body..Are you saying they put it there..You have to argue and debunk the medical field and area 51...Your hypothesis is lame.....
Originally posted by dogstar23
reply to post by rigel4
Generally, whenever someone dares a crowd to "prove to them" something with limited verifiable information, for or against, it is considered a ridiculous, adolescent undertaking, at best. I believe there is someone out there as capable of proving you wrong as there is someone out there able to prove you right. You do realize this wouldn't even be a topic of discussion were either side able to prove themselves right...right?
As far as your comment about the flexible, unbreakable, or whatever, metal at Roswell, do you consider the force of a single person's hands to be the same strength as that of an object crashing into earth after ripping through the atmosphere? If so, I want 1/10th the strength of that farmer back in 1947 so I can sign on to the most lucrative NFL contract ever.
In conclusion, I can't prove the "yes they're real" theorists right, but I can ruin your breakable/unbreakable argument thoroughly and completely in the blink of an eye.
We are Rigel4. You will make an excellent drone.
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Originally posted by Amanda5
reply to post by steveknows
Well - what about the implant in my leg that was examined by a doctor?
Does that make the doctor a whack job or me - or maybe both of us?
Much Peace...
Originally posted by romanmel
reply to post by Unknown Soldier
You question my assertion that "ET believers are religious zealots"?
Just read some of the "believers" comments here in this thread.
Some of these "believers" are ready to personally attack a stranger's honor and credability merely because they take a contra view, much like you have done with me. I am not a threat to anyones unfounded belief.
It takes faith to believe in that which cannot be proven = religious
To demean anyone who does not accept your faith = zealot
Originally posted by romanmel
reply to post by Unknown Soldier
unfounded belief.
It takes faith to believe in that which cannot be proven = religious
To demean anyone who does not accept your faith = zealot
Originally posted by WeekendWarrior
reply to post by rigel4
Thats just poor thinking with a lack of use of your own mind and really getting in to it.
There are so many videos, photos, testimonies of high rank people, documents and even radar evidence.. did you study this topic at all? For me it took about 3 yers to realize they exist, no doubt about it.
The real question is that how much does certain military people and shadow governments know about this subject?
Prove me wrong! Please..
Originally posted by romanmel
The OP is absolutely correct.
Over 60 years of UFO's have proven nothing of an ET presence.
If ET's really did exist, why would they be racing to come to an insignificant little planet like Earth?
ET believers are religious zealots, not enlightened researchers, as they like to portray themselves.
That is a incorrect statement..LOL...there is proof your just not looking for it ...
Originally posted by Thinker1
There seems to be a lot of asking for evidence, and on both sides there is none given, however (for the OP) in the words of Stanton Friedman the "noisy negativist" will make conclusions based on proclamation and not investigation, and if you cant attack the EVIDENCE (not proof, does a thief leave clues behind of his/her identity does a skilled murder try to leave behind evidence of his/her crime NO) attack the people its easier, now go tell him that "flying saucers" do not exist, im sure you would feel embarrassed for telling him that some one who investigated the subject for 50+ years and who is a physicist, im sure he can fill you with lots of information. Also there is more than just witness testimony from oh i dont know experienced pilots some members of congress, astronauts, police officers, people of military etc so all of those people are wrong or making it up? , there is documents actual documents that have been either declassified or "leaked", but the hard to find or get declassified documents have more that 75% of the words blacked out, and not just names, and only able to read a couple of lousy words. Now to me that fishy.
Obviously the MSM has a way of making people believe things, same for the government, if the government say it not real its not real right? Fact: everyone lies and keep secrets.The US government are actually ignoring whats going on saying that it poses not threat to national security.(?) SETI even tho privately funded gets loads of money to look for a lousy signal and if they find one how would they decipher it, there should be an organization that look into the 5% of unexplained UFO sightings but they cease to exist. There is something going on. There is lots of EVIDENCE its just either hard to find or you have to look it the right places. And as for the question why is there no pics or video, well not everyone takes a camera everywhere they go its not like people expect to see those things, everyone reacts to things differently, sometimes your first reaction isnt to pull out a camera and take a picture some people just stand there in awe.
Just wondering has anyone ever watched the show UFO hunters? i think its a great show its brought to light some cases ive never heard of and allowed me to look into it further, A great episode "UFO relics" amongst others.
Anyway to conclude there is evidence or something happening of what who knows, for those who say that UFOs are not real well it is real because 5% of cases is unknown, how can you definitively say that it is non existent without scientific analysis or even knowledge of the subject and even scientist dont know what they are, and same for the people who say there is no life on other planets or the universe, thats like saying you have a pack of cards of 100 billion and your chances of drawing a 10 or any other number is 0 which makes no sense. anyway thats just my 10 cents
Originally posted by rigel4
Originally posted by Beast Of Gevaudan
reply to post by rigel4
I think you need to re-title your thread to "ET UFO's are not real".
"UFO(s) are Not Real" misleads the reader into thinking you're saying that objects that can't be identified as convential aircraft or natural phenonema don't exist, which would be a silly statement.
I get what you're saying though, and I agree that no tangible evidence to support the existence of ET visiting Earth has made it's way into the public domain yet. However, without having access to the full picture, eg access to top secret facilities and their archives etc, it's difficult to come to a definate answer on this.
For the record I had a very clear sighting of my own over 20 years ago and I can say with confidence that what I saw that evening was certainly not conventional by any means, it's design, movement and the lack of noise told me this. As to who or what was controlling/piloting it, well, that's anyone's guess, but I won't cry "alien" unless I actually see one.
Too late to retitle the Thread, but i clearly say in the op that i am talking about Extra terrestrial craft.
I sometimes think people ignore this fact to make the sceptics look ignorant.