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Originally posted by shadowcorp
w.e you say even though i disagree, there if factual proof ufos exist... and theve been around for years ,what do u think the ancients did.. just drew ufos for art,and what about crop circles im sure wood creates radiation:/
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by steveknows
There is no evidence that aliens have visited this planet regardless of how much you want to play make believe.
And everything that is referd to as evidence wouldn't even so much as hold up in a court room.edit on 10-10-2011 by steveknows because: Typo
I think when you wrote "evidence" you meant proof?
There is a good deal of evidence in the form of witness testimony...not just some lone driver in the country, but multiple expert witnesses of the same event. O'Hare airport involved Runway Mechanics, Pilots and Air Traffic Controllers...all of which are highly trained to discern known aircraft and weather phenomena.
The Rendelsham Woods event involved multiple military personnel and officers and included up close sightings, radar readings, audio recordings and military reports.
All of this testimony is valid in court.
It does not meet the high burden of "proof" to substatiate the claim.
I find folks that are so blindly dismissive of such evidence as equally faulted in their thinking as those that blindly accept a single persons claim of "alien contact" without evidence as fact.
Originally posted by shadowcorp
w.e you say even though i disagree, there if factual proof ufos exist... and theve been around for years ,what do u think the ancients did.. just drew ufos for art,and what about crop circles im sure wood creates radiation:/
Originally posted by Morg234
reply to post by steveknows
These are just meaningless generalisations proving solely that you haven't done enough reading into the subject at hand.
Originally posted by Morg234
reply to post by steveknows
These are just meaningless generalisations proving solely that you haven't done enough reading into the subject at hand.
Originally posted by rigel4
Originally posted by Alien Abduct
reply to post by rigel4
Truthfully I think this guy and others that make these kinds of threads are just too lazy to do their own research and feel the need to entice people to present their best evidence so that they don't have to do their own searching.
Personally I think its moronic to make a thread like this.
All of the very credible eye witness testimony, all of the videos, pictures and all of the abduction accounts are evidence. Like it or not its evidence. its not proof but it is evidence that will hold up in a courtroom.
I can make my case without even wasting my time posting links because you know and I know and people reading this knows that this evidence that I speak of exists.
Now, make your case. Present your evidence to the contrary.
If this were an evidentiary hearing where as we would have to make our case by the preponderance of the evidence you would most undoubtedly lose by a mile.
-Alien
Um.No I wouldn't lose.
Present to me your one nugget of irrefutable proof that ET CRAFT exist in our skies.
Don't be shy
Originally posted by pitchdragon
The tree that falls in the forest does it make a sound if nobody hears it?
Originally posted by Imtor
How can one say for sure there are no aliens on Earth when you combine Ancient Astronaut Theory, abductions, UFO and USO sightings, mutilations, former employees stories and others(i will not add telepathy and contacts because this is too far for me).
Originally posted by dcmb1409
For more than 30 years I have researched and wanted to believe in UFO's and the unexplained until recently with all of the scams and book sale promotions that I've uncovered as false claims and sightings within the community. The internet provides a quick and in most cases a reliable source to debunk or question claims to come to a logical conclusion of the stated facts.
I'm a no body in this research and did it for my own curiosity and unanswered questions about this phenomenon and its weekly claims.
There are some mind boggling unexplained cases that deserve more research but most are fantasies and lies constructed to line the pockets of cons and charlatans.
I read many post of those that ask where's the proof and the response vary from individual to individual and the most absurd is that youtube said so and there's a video with proof "here I'll prove it."
CGI artist, fantasy writers, Ufologist. and professional hoaxers, sometimes make a living off of the gullible and the immature and I get so tired of people stating that UFO's are real because "I said so" that it became a tired and hopeless cause to try and debate. I'm called closed minded by youthful newbies that don't realize UFO's have been around and in vogue since the 50's and the same questions have always plagued the curious . Its nothing new, there have always been the full tilt believers and those that wanted more than a word or grainy picture to become a fanatic.
So recently, I threw in the towel and raised my hands in defeat because whom am I to compete with youtube and a best selling author on a humanoid reptile species or a Chevy in a tunnel on Mars?
In the meantime I'll continue my own personal research without funding the cranks and snake oil salesmen and hope for some real data to appear that can be verified and finally answer the questions from the 50's, Are we alone?
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