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Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by tom goose
There are places just like that in the World.
I suggest that you go look at how great those places are. The results speak for themselves.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CobraCommander
One other thought here as well, if I may.
I know of many single parent-households where the mother has several children by several different men. If, let's say, two of three fathers are not paying support because they are in prison, is that suddenly the responsibility of the third father to make up the difference and pay the rent and utility bills for children that are not even his?
What father do you know who pays support for other children? That's really reaching.
There are set rates now. Support is based on earned income.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by CaDreamer
Mate; those stats were 1989........it's now 2011
HELLO! Wakey wakey!
Yes - exactly. Things are changing and there is more balance today - as far as father's rights - then there was 20 years ago.
I know 3 fathers right now that have full custody of their kids. I've know others throughout my life.
I know one woman paying alimony to her ex while still having to fully support their minor child. The ex was a well educated man in a high profile job - - until alcohol took him. The state said he was incapable of holding down a job - - so she has to support him.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CobraCommander
We are still trying to sort it out, but our best estimate at the moment is that the state pocketed over $15,000 in child support from us.
That doesn't even make any sense.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CobraCommander
Don't pretend as if you are the only one who pays bills. I run a group foster home.
A few pages back I asked you if you actually had any children.
Your response was: "Not now, no. I did have."
Something is just not adding up.
Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by CobraCommander
You hate women. You make that clear. I called you out on it. You don't like it.
Your big block of text on me is amusing. I believe that is called an attempt to derail and distract with verbosity.
The nice thing about clarity - it is often short.
The answer is to eliminate child support in its current form. If the state is so concerned about children, then perhaps the state can directly fund the expense of raising children...
Originally posted by Aeons
Originally posted by Stewie
reply to post by Aeons
You are insinuating exploitation. Shame on you.
I am proposing that we have not even begun to explore how the children can contribute to their own well-being.
And, I have some history as well dear, if you really want to go there.
They are contributing. That's what school is. That's their work. It is very important work in a modern society.
And I will not allow fools and scoundrels to derail the very basis of freedom so that you may duck out on your own responsibilities.
Shirking off YOUR adult responsibilities onto children. SHAME.edit on 2011/6/2 by Aeons because: (no reason given)