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Originally posted by Rocky Black
Taking away guns is not the answer people.
Look at any country where it is illegal to own or posses a pistol or shot gun. Find one and look up gun related murders. Hey why are they high gee I wonder how can that be.
Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by wayno
DUDE!!! you are on a conspiracy theory website, isn't that a bit like the kettle calling the pot black??
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Shotgun Preteen vs. Illegal alien Home Invaders: Butte, Montana November 5, 2007 Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two-story home. It seems the two crooks never learned two things: they were in Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine. Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun. Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buckshot from the 11-year-old's knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen. When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive. It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a stolen 45 caliber handgun he took from an other home invasion robbery. That victim, 50-year-old David Burien, was not so lucky. He died from stab wounds to the chest. Ever wonder why good stuff never makes NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, or ABC news? ........an 11 year old girl, properly trained, defended her home, and herself, against two murderous, illegal immigrants.......and she wins and is still alive because of it. Now, THAT is Gun Control !
Originally posted by Shrikant
the people who dont want guns have valid arguments that cannot be ignored: the fact alone that there ARE guns makes people start thinking that theres someone to fight. Humans are humans, and the public shooters have removed themselves from the "human" category by alienating themselves. The violence in media and the mere existence of these things are causing people to worry for their lives. If theres very little violence in Texas, its because everybody is so Fing scared that if they woop out a gun, everybody in the surrounding area will pull their suckers out and itll be a huge bloodbath. Maybe there are a lot of shootings in NY even if there a gun laws, but thats because its NY for hells sake, obviously some crazy assholes are gonna wanna shoot the damn place. In Canada, we DONT CARE and we ARENT WORRIED about being shot, so we live life quite easily. There are no more than 1 shootin every 2 years here in quebec, yet its easy to get guns despite the laws. its all about the tension, and guns shouldnt exist, because if they didnt no one would even think about there being threats. Also, its the police and the army's jobs to fight and protect, and if all citizens can have guns, then its a country of soldiers.
obviously, the people who disagree with me will continue to disagree, but please try to think twice. guns shouldnt exist, and tension between people shouldnt exist, because it is causing more and more horrendous things. please tell me who these evil beings you must defend yourself from are? the more you imagine them, the more real they get. If you continue this way, youll end up in a country where people shoot each other over steak and Dasani
Originally posted by Rocky Black
Everytime someone gets shot the anti gun people and anti constitution people come out spewing all this crap about take away their guns and this will come to an end.
Well people I hate to break it to you but you are all wrong.
Originally posted by 2minutewarning
I agree with you. And I have to say that I am somewhat surprised that there were NOT people attending the Arizona event who were legally carrying weapons. As a holder of a CCW permit it always amazes me that some businesses post a "no firearms allowed" sign in their windows making it a felony to carry one in. A mass movement in my state (Ohio) appears to have opened peoples eyes when it was pointed out to them..."which do you want in your place of business? Someone illegally carrying a weapon, or someone with a CCW permit who has had a background check, training with the weapon, and adjudged by law enforcement to be a law abiding citizen?" If more people exercised their 2nd amendment rights we would all be a lot safer. Just my .02
Originally posted by Backinthesaddle
Hand guns are created to kill people, automatic rifles are created to kill people, I can see single shot riffles for hunting, shot guns for birds and small game but hand guns and automatic rifles are for killing people nothing else. Humans should ban these weapons and collectors should be forced to have them locked up in a building used for housing weapons.
You argument isn’t very strong. The reason for so much gun crime is everyone owns a gun. Simple answer simple solution, ban hand guns and automatic rifles and gun crime would go down, nice theory but even that still won’t work, now the real way to solve this is to go after the companies that make guns and start handing out huge fines and jail time to anyone that creates these devices.
Hand guns and automatic rifles should be written into the Geneva Conventions as crimes against humanity.
If your country is so messed up that you need to walk down the street with a weapon in your possession just in case, it’s not a gun problem it’s a people problem and a government issue. If you need guns to protect yourself from the government your really already living like a caged animal, do you think giving weapons to someone in a cage is a good idea, I don’t. And nothing will stop them from coming for you gun or no gun.
There are many simulated games available for those who want to try to old gun enthusiast line, there places like a gun range, where you should have to leave you gun locked up and safe, if you want to shoot a real one but why?
What’s the thrill, I’ve been raise around guns my whole life and I can tell you it has everything to do with EGO and not wisdom or maturity. it’s the power rush of an immature society that wants to feel the power and fear over others, Why am I even wasting my time on a subject I know is so far out of grasp for even the OP!?!
I know it's 2011, but i get a feeling that people havent matured/evolved or gained any further knowledge since 1772.
Originally posted by Punisher75
I think the problem is a lack of understanding of why we have guns in the U.S. and the second amendment. The entire point of the second amendment is not for Hunting rights or sportsmen. It is there for the sole purpose of disposing of a tyrannical government if the need should arise. The Second Amendment is the "Big Red Reset Button" that the founders placed in the Constitution to make sure a free country remains free. No more no less.