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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by Wademus

Originally posted by ukredstar
I'm glad i'm not american and i'm glad i don't live there either. This thread shows that those who support having guns, are just plain stupid.

Compare the shootings in the USA to Europe? Who has more? Does your answer tell you something?

If no-one had guns there'd be next to no shootings. What is the point in having a gun. Because it makes you feel tough? To defend yourself/property? For recreational purposes.. i can understand. What do people in Europe/other parts of the world do to defend themselves or their property?

For thos of you who support guns......i just don't get it.

Some people in this world just drive me nuts with their narrow minded views.
Humans should strive for peace and guns just create an opportunity for conflict with disasterous consequences.


Here are Interpol 2001 crime statistics (rate per 100,000):
4161 – US
7736 – Germany
6941 – France
9927 – England and Wales
www.tinyvital.com...

Also just search around since Englands 1997 gun law round, gun crime up nearly 40% and youre some twice as likely to be mugged in england.
Gun crime INCREASED in Canada and Australia after stricter gun control laws were passed
The Swiss have almost no gun laws and almost no gun crime, so low they do not even keep stats
Oh and remember when the Nazis took away everyones guns? Gee didnt they I dont know KILL over 6 million



Sorry, but very bad source and stats. Here are up to date and seem more reliable :

www.nationmaster.com...


Crime Statistics > Gun violence > Homicides > Firearm homicide rate > per 100,000 pop. (most recent) by country


# 1 South Africa: 74.5748
# 2 Colombia: 51.7683
# 3 Thailand: 33.0016
# 4 Guatemala: 18.5
# 5 Paraguay: 7.3508
# 6 Zimbabwe: 4.746
# 7 Mexico: 3.6622
# 8 United States: 3.6 USA here !!!
# 9 Belarus: 3.31
# 10 Barbados: 2.9963
# 11 Uruguay: 2.5172
# 12 Lithuania: 2.2463
# 13 Slovakia: 2.1659
# 14 Côte d'Ivoire: 2.068
# 15 Estonia: 1.534
# 16 Macedonia, Republic of: 1.2802
# 17 Latvia: 1.2648
# 18 Portugal: 0.8488
# 19 Bulgaria: 0.7714
# 20 Slovenia: 0.6036
# 21 Germany: 0.4672
# 22 Moldova: 0.4671
# 23 Hungary: 0.44
# 24 Poland: 0.4289
# 25 Ukraine: 0.3495
# 26 Australia: 0.3073
# 27 Czech Republic: 0.2624
# 28 Spain: 0.2456
# 29 Azerbaijan: 0.2236
# 30 New Zealand: 0.1827
# 31 Chile: 0.1776
# 32 Singapore: 0.0249



Now, none-arms homicidal :

www.nationmaster.com...

Crime Statistics > Gun violence > Homicides > Non-firearm homicide rate > per 100,000 pop. (most recent) by country

Rank Countries Amount
# 1 Colombia: 62.74
# 2 South Africa: 51.3901
# 3 Guatemala: 25.4737
# 4 Mexico: 14.1112
# 5 Paraguay: 12.0451
# 6 Estonia: 10.4456
# 7 Belarus: 10.13
# 8 Latvia: 10.0337
# 9 Lithuania: 10.0135
# 10 Ukraine: 8.9253
# 11 Thailand: 8.4679
# 12 Moldova: 8.127
# 13 Barbados: 7.4906
# 14 Zimbabwe: 7.2381
# 15 Poland: 5.6072
# 16 United States: 5.5 USA HERE !!!
# 17 Uruguay: 4.6149
# 18 Côte d'Ivoire: 4.0688
# 19 Bulgaria: 4.0652
# 20 Azerbaijan: 2.8078
# 21 Slovakia: 2.6473
# 22 Portugal: 2.4788
# 23 Macedonia, Republic of: 2.3141
# 24 Hungary: 2.05
# 25 Slovenia: 1.8109
# 26 Czech Republic: 1.6893
# 27 Australia: 1.5729
# 28 Chile: 1.5461
# 29 Spain: 1.2506
# 30 New Zealand: 1.1747
# 31 Germany: 1.1679
# 32 Singapore: 0.9209




Theses stats reveal a lot !

Last one here, the % of crime made by gun ( LOL, i guessed the right number in a other thread ( or the same here )

www.nationmaster.com...

Crime Statistics > Gun violence > Homicides > % homicides with firearms (most recent) by country

Rank Countries Amount

# 1 Thailand: 79.5805
# 2 South Africa: 59.2028
# 3 Colombia: 45.2092
# 4 Slovakia: 45
# 5 Guatemala: 42.0706
# 6 Zimbabwe: 39.6026
# 7 United States: 39.5604 USA here ! 40% of murder are done by gun !!! :O
# 8 Paraguay: 37.8987
# 9 Macedonia, Republic of: 35.6164
# 10 Uruguay: 35.2941
# 11 Côte d'Ivoire: 33.6982
= 12 Germany: 28.5714
= 12 Barbados: 28.5714
# 14 Portugal: 25.3776
# 15 Slovenia: 25
# 16 Belarus: 24.628
# 17 Mexico: 20.6051
# 18 Lithuania: 18.3223
# 19 Hungary: 17.6707
# 20 Spain: 16.4129
# 21 Australia: 16.3435
# 22 Bulgaria: 15.9494
# 23 New Zealand: 13.4615
# 24 Czech Republic: 13.4432
# 25 Estonia: 12.8049
# 26 Latvia: 11.194
# 27 Chile: 10.3053
# 28 Azerbaijan: 7.377
# 29 Poland: 7.1062
# 30 Moldova: 5.4348
# 31 Ukraine: 3.7682
# 32 Singapore: 2.6316



So.... USA is always in the top 10 in death by gun... And country around are like... 3rd world country ! ( sorry mexico lol ).

And if i get this right, USA triple the death by gun ( per 100 000 habitant ) compare to the worst european country. ( Not sure if Belarus is in europe or not )




posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:36 PM
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Stats are useless... Just remember... Gun's don't kill people, People kill people. So let's ban people, or at least that's where we should be going with all this anti gun rhetoric.

I mean people can kill each other with rocks , arrows, etc... Why ban guns, when obviously the problem is the person using the tool.

Conclusion: If your not comfortable with a gun, Don't own one. Simple as that and don't cry wolf when you have masked men with guns in your home. Just use your karate.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Backinthesaddle
The answer is simple isn’t it, I don’t brag about what’s in my house, I don’t keep things like drugs, guns, or money in my house. I don’t let strangers in my house and I don’t need security or a gun, you want to take my # come get it, it can be replaced, its only material anyway. I know my neighbours and neighbourhood, and I make a point of making sure I get along with other people. Sure I guess if someone broke in I would face them with this empty hand, I gained from eating well, exercising and practicing self defence. I leave my doors unlocked, but I can tell material possession is very important to U.S citizens or they wouldn’t shoot each other on a daily basis, if you want answers to problems look at yourself and address them. The answers are within, to bad your eyes are on the outside.
Getting all worked up about something you don’t agree isn’t going to change the fact that only weak fear filled men need guns to hide behind!


Self Defense huh ? You just stuck your foot in your mouth, please read my previous post on Europe and quit lying. If your fortunate to live in a decent place ... good for you. Sounds like you also have the same things in your house as many Americans do. Your mis-information is astounding to say the least.

I could careless about my possessions, but I car about life, as in, staying alive ...



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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Originally posted by ExCloud
reply to post by purplemer
 


You want a Ted Bundy to walk in your home in the middle of the night? It has nothing to do with fear its safety measures. The only thing I fear is death and when the time comes I probably wont be to afraid.

If you dont know who Ted Bundy is

Ted Bundy-
One of the most notorious serial killers in history, he was responsible for the rape and murder of several women between 1974 and 1978. An educated and charming young man, he either raped and then killed the women or killed and then raped them. His method of killing was either by strangulation or by bludgeoning the women. He was arrested on the 16th of August, 1975, but escaped within 17 hours of his capture. He was subsequently arrested on the 15th of February, 1978. On the 24th of January, 1989, Ted Bundy was sent to the electric chair.

So you leave your door open and dont take any form of safety and when a quack like him comes into your home I will not feel sorry for you that you didnt lock your doors. Its not guns that kill people. Crazy people kill people.


now your argument is getting silly....
to start with wtf do i have to worry about this ted bundy bloke. He kills women and i am a male.
to put your fear into perspective i done a search on google and i dont know how right it is but a ball point figure was 2 peeps in a million will be killed by a serial killer...
you are more likely to be killed by lightning.. have you got a lightning rod running down your house...
prob not..
now can you see the folly of your argument... you live in fear just like they want you too.. you are not rambo... ted bundy is not going to come in your house. really get rid of your gun and stop killing furry cretins.. you are just as much as a man with out it.. maybe even more cas you might not be goung around scared that ted bundy is going to kill you....
who has made you so scared...whom does it serve...

regarding your comment you wont feel soz for me when someone comes for me.. it is not going to happen..really it is not.. i think you should lay of those hollywood films for a while....

kx



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by Backinthesaddle
The answer is simple isn’t it, I don’t brag about what’s in my house, I don’t keep things like drugs, guns, or money in my house. I don’t let strangers in my house and I don’t need security or a gun, you want to take my # come get it, it can be replaced, its only material anyway. I know my neighbours and neighbourhood, and I make a point of making sure I get along with other people. Sure I guess if someone broke in I would face them with this empty hand, I gained from eating well, exercising and practicing self defence. I leave my doors unlocked, but I can tell material possession is very important to U.S citizens or they wouldn’t shoot each other on a daily basis, if you want answers to problems look at yourself and address them. The answers are within, to bad your eyes are on the outside.
Getting all worked up about something you don’t agree isn’t going to change the fact that only weak fear filled men need guns to hide behind!


Okay, you I think need to take your head out of your American hating ass for five minutes and join me in the real world. How many people do you know that can kill somebody with their farts like Bruce Lee or Chuck Norris? I am not a monk that knows karate and how to dodge bullets in the Matrix. Im a normal human being.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by yourblank101
reply to post by FreeQuebec86
 


Stats are useless... Just remember... Gun's don't kill people, People kill people. So let's ban people, or at least that's where we should be going with all this anti gun rhetoric.

I mean people can kill each other with rocks , arrows, etc... Why ban guns, when obviously the problem is the person using the tool.

Conclusion: If your not comfortable with a gun, Don't own one. Simple as that and don't cry wolf when you have masked men with guns in your home. Just use your karate.



Come on ! xD this is a used argument !

1- Ban gun is impossible, put better law and restriction IS POSSIBLE AND GOOD ( see, all country with strick gun law are not in the top 10.

2- Gun are made to kill ! xD Animal or humans ( Automatic gun are aimed for human. Who will go hunt animal with that ? xD ).

3- What would you like more ? Being attack by a gun or a rock or knife ?


When gun are used against human, RARELY it's for defense ! It's for attacking !

Almost only police and army used the guns the right way against human ( even there, sometime they abuse it like criminal ).

But "normal people" that got a gun and shoot a human. Are about 70% of the time attackin not defending !


AGAIN WE CAN NOT BAN GUNS.

In Canada, you can have a Hunting gun or a recreative gun. But you got a LOAD of paper to do and training and lesson before getting it.

And automatic gun are ban in Quebec... because of the last mass shouting here in a college
. I'm for that, automatic gun are just for killing humans !

And you can't aim target with a automatic gun ! Unless you want to feel powerfull xD



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by FreeQuebec86

Originally posted by Wademus

Originally posted by ukredstar
I'm glad i'm not american and i'm glad i don't live there either. This thread shows that those who support having guns, are just plain stupid.

Compare the shootings in the USA to Europe? Who has more? Does your answer tell you something?

If no-one had guns there'd be next to no shootings. What is the point in having a gun. Because it makes you feel tough? To defend yourself/property? For recreational purposes.. i can understand. What do people in Europe/other parts of the world do to defend themselves or their property?

For thos of you who support guns......i just don't get it.

Some people in this world just drive me nuts with their narrow minded views.
Humans should strive for peace and guns just create an opportunity for conflict with disasterous consequences.


Here are Interpol 2001 crime statistics (rate per 100,000):
4161 – US
7736 – Germany
6941 – France
9927 – England and Wales
www.tinyvital.com...

Also just search around since Englands 1997 gun law round, gun crime up nearly 40% and youre some twice as likely to be mugged in england.
Gun crime INCREASED in Canada and Australia after stricter gun control laws were passed
The Swiss have almost no gun laws and almost no gun crime, so low they do not even keep stats
Oh and remember when the Nazis took away everyones guns? Gee didnt they I dont know KILL over 6 million



Sorry, but very bad source and stats. Here are up to date and seem more reliable :

www.nationmaster.com...


Crime Statistics > Gun violence > Homicides > Firearm homicide rate > per 100,000 pop. (most recent) by country


# 1 South Africa: 74.5748
# 2 Colombia: 51.7683
# 3 Thailand: 33.0016
# 4 Guatemala: 18.5
# 5 Paraguay: 7.3508
# 6 Zimbabwe: 4.746
# 7 Mexico: 3.6622
# 8 United States: 3.6 USA here !!!
# 9 Belarus: 3.31
# 10 Barbados: 2.9963
# 11 Uruguay: 2.5172
# 12 Lithuania: 2.2463
# 13 Slovakia: 2.1659
# 14 Côte d'Ivoire: 2.068
# 15 Estonia: 1.534
# 16 Macedonia, Republic of: 1.2802
# 17 Latvia: 1.2648
# 18 Portugal: 0.8488
# 19 Bulgaria: 0.7714
# 20 Slovenia: 0.6036
# 21 Germany: 0.4672
# 22 Moldova: 0.4671
# 23 Hungary: 0.44
# 24 Poland: 0.4289
# 25 Ukraine: 0.3495
# 26 Australia: 0.3073
# 27 Czech Republic: 0.2624
# 28 Spain: 0.2456
# 29 Azerbaijan: 0.2236
# 30 New Zealand: 0.1827
# 31 Chile: 0.1776
# 32 Singapore: 0.0249



Now, none-arms homicidal :

www.nationmaster.com...

Crime Statistics > Gun violence > Homicides > Non-firearm homicide rate > per 100,000 pop. (most recent) by country

Rank Countries Amount
# 1 Colombia: 62.74
# 2 South Africa: 51.3901
# 3 Guatemala: 25.4737
# 4 Mexico: 14.1112
# 5 Paraguay: 12.0451
# 6 Estonia: 10.4456
# 7 Belarus: 10.13
# 8 Latvia: 10.0337
# 9 Lithuania: 10.0135
# 10 Ukraine: 8.9253
# 11 Thailand: 8.4679
# 12 Moldova: 8.127
# 13 Barbados: 7.4906
# 14 Zimbabwe: 7.2381
# 15 Poland: 5.6072
# 16 United States: 5.5 USA HERE !!!
# 17 Uruguay: 4.6149
# 18 Côte d'Ivoire: 4.0688
# 19 Bulgaria: 4.0652
# 20 Azerbaijan: 2.8078
# 21 Slovakia: 2.6473
# 22 Portugal: 2.4788
# 23 Macedonia, Republic of: 2.3141
# 24 Hungary: 2.05
# 25 Slovenia: 1.8109
# 26 Czech Republic: 1.6893
# 27 Australia: 1.5729
# 28 Chile: 1.5461
# 29 Spain: 1.2506
# 30 New Zealand: 1.1747
# 31 Germany: 1.1679
# 32 Singapore: 0.9209




Theses stats reveal a lot !

Last one here, the % of crime made by gun ( LOL, i guessed the right number in a other thread ( or the same here )

www.nationmaster.com...

Crime Statistics > Gun violence > Homicides > % homicides with firearms (most recent) by country

Rank Countries Amount

# 1 Thailand: 79.5805
# 2 South Africa: 59.2028
# 3 Colombia: 45.2092
# 4 Slovakia: 45
# 5 Guatemala: 42.0706
# 6 Zimbabwe: 39.6026
# 7 United States: 39.5604 USA here ! 40% of murder are done by gun !!! :O
# 8 Paraguay: 37.8987
# 9 Macedonia, Republic of: 35.6164
# 10 Uruguay: 35.2941
# 11 Côte d'Ivoire: 33.6982
= 12 Germany: 28.5714
= 12 Barbados: 28.5714
# 14 Portugal: 25.3776
# 15 Slovenia: 25
# 16 Belarus: 24.628
# 17 Mexico: 20.6051
# 18 Lithuania: 18.3223
# 19 Hungary: 17.6707
# 20 Spain: 16.4129
# 21 Australia: 16.3435
# 22 Bulgaria: 15.9494
# 23 New Zealand: 13.4615
# 24 Czech Republic: 13.4432
# 25 Estonia: 12.8049
# 26 Latvia: 11.194
# 27 Chile: 10.3053
# 28 Azerbaijan: 7.377
# 29 Poland: 7.1062
# 30 Moldova: 5.4348
# 31 Ukraine: 3.7682
# 32 Singapore: 2.6316



So.... USA is always in the top 10 in death by gun... And country around are like... 3rd world country ! ( sorry mexico lol ).

And if i get this right, USA triple the death by gun ( per 100 000 habitant ) compare to the worst european country. ( Not sure if Belarus is in europe or not )


Stats can easily be modified, no stats please.... I know to many Europeans to know that Europe is no bed of roses and is just as bad if not worse when is comes to NON-law abiding folk ...



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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reply to post by Rocky Black
 


That's right. Guns keep people in check.
read this article and you may feel differently about the "evil" of guns
www.snopes.com...

Also our 2nd Amendment rights were given to us so we could overthrow the government if they overstep their boundaries says the founding fathers. Of course no one's gonna get an army together to invade the white house lol but that's one of the reasons we're allowed to have guns



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:48 PM
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xD and LOL at people denying my stats and they show obscur website xD.

USA is #8 in the WORRRRRRRLD for death by gun, behind mexico...


But yeah, with a gun/death ratio like that, i would be paranoiac too and wanted a gun... xD

Gun = people killing = people buying gun for protection = Profit ??? ( For NRA at least
) xD.



Why no-one see the conspiracy in the NRA ? they are the biggest lobby in Washintong DC !



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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Originally posted by Stumpjumper
You can take my guns, when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.


it is people like you that win the debate for the antigun lobby.. do you think sir that you are of fit mind to have a gun.. if someone tries to take your gun off you, you will end up dead.....?

you live in fear....were has that fear come from..whom has given it to you....



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by jeremiah8401
reply to post by Rocky Black
 


That's right. Guns keep people in check.
read this article and you may feel differently about the "evil" of guns
www.snopes.com...

Also our 2nd Amendment rights were given to us so we could overthrow the government if they overstep their boundaries says the founding fathers. Of course no one's gonna get an army together to invade the white house lol but that's one of the reasons we're allowed to have guns


your not going to over throw any government.. to start with the guns you have are toys compared to the big boys and moreimportantly you are all too busy watching tv...

when thing go wrong in europe peeps protest and riot in america they do nothing...
sounds like a dream time to me...

kx



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by purplemer

Originally posted by Stumpjumper
You can take my guns, when you pry them from my cold, dead hands.


it is people like you that win the debate for the antigun lobby.. do you think sir that you are of fit mind to have a gun.. if someone tries to take your gun off you, you will end up dead.....?

you live in fear....were has that fear come from..whom has given it to you....


Do you breathe??



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by VI0811

Originally posted by FreeQuebec86

Originally posted by Wademus

Originally posted by ukredstar
I'm glad i'm not american and i'm glad i don't live there either. This thread shows that those who support having guns, are just plain stupid.

Compare the shootings in the USA to Europe? Who has more? Does your answer tell you something?

If no-one had guns there'd be next to no shootings. What is the point in having a gun. Because it makes you feel tough? To defend yourself/property? For recreational purposes.. i can understand. What do people in Europe/other parts of the world do to defend themselves or their property?

For thos of you who support guns......i just don't get it.

Some people in this world just drive me nuts with their narrow minded views.
Humans should strive for peace and guns just create an opportunity for conflict with disasterous consequences.


Here are Interpol 2001 crime statistics (rate per 100,000):
4161 – US
7736 – Germany
6941 – France
9927 – England and Wales
www.tinyvital.com...

Also just search around since Englands 1997 gun law round, gun crime up nearly 40% and youre some twice as likely to be mugged in england.
Gun crime INCREASED in Canada and Australia after stricter gun control laws were passed
The Swiss have almost no gun laws and almost no gun crime, so low they do not even keep stats
Oh and remember when the Nazis took away everyones guns? Gee didnt they I dont know KILL over 6 million



Sorry, but very bad source and stats. Here are up to date and seem more reliable :

www.nationmaster.com...


Crime Statistics > Gun violence > Homicides > Firearm homicide rate > per 100,000 pop. (most recent) by country


# 1 South Africa: 74.5748
# 2 Colombia: 51.7683
# 3 Thailand: 33.0016
# 4 Guatemala: 18.5
# 5 Paraguay: 7.3508
# 6 Zimbabwe: 4.746
# 7 Mexico: 3.6622
# 8 United States: 3.6 USA here !!!
# 9 Belarus: 3.31
# 10 Barbados: 2.9963
# 11 Uruguay: 2.5172
# 12 Lithuania: 2.2463
# 13 Slovakia: 2.1659
# 14 Côte d'Ivoire: 2.068
# 15 Estonia: 1.534
# 16 Macedonia, Republic of: 1.2802
# 17 Latvia: 1.2648
# 18 Portugal: 0.8488
# 19 Bulgaria: 0.7714
# 20 Slovenia: 0.6036
# 21 Germany: 0.4672
# 22 Moldova: 0.4671
# 23 Hungary: 0.44
# 24 Poland: 0.4289
# 25 Ukraine: 0.3495
# 26 Australia: 0.3073
# 27 Czech Republic: 0.2624
# 28 Spain: 0.2456
# 29 Azerbaijan: 0.2236
# 30 New Zealand: 0.1827
# 31 Chile: 0.1776
# 32 Singapore: 0.0249



Now, none-arms homicidal :

www.nationmaster.com...

Crime Statistics > Gun violence > Homicides > Non-firearm homicide rate > per 100,000 pop. (most recent) by country

Rank Countries Amount
# 1 Colombia: 62.74
# 2 South Africa: 51.3901
# 3 Guatemala: 25.4737
# 4 Mexico: 14.1112
# 5 Paraguay: 12.0451
# 6 Estonia: 10.4456
# 7 Belarus: 10.13
# 8 Latvia: 10.0337
# 9 Lithuania: 10.0135
# 10 Ukraine: 8.9253
# 11 Thailand: 8.4679
# 12 Moldova: 8.127
# 13 Barbados: 7.4906
# 14 Zimbabwe: 7.2381
# 15 Poland: 5.6072
# 16 United States: 5.5 USA HERE !!!
# 17 Uruguay: 4.6149
# 18 Côte d'Ivoire: 4.0688
# 19 Bulgaria: 4.0652
# 20 Azerbaijan: 2.8078
# 21 Slovakia: 2.6473
# 22 Portugal: 2.4788
# 23 Macedonia, Republic of: 2.3141
# 24 Hungary: 2.05
# 25 Slovenia: 1.8109
# 26 Czech Republic: 1.6893
# 27 Australia: 1.5729
# 28 Chile: 1.5461
# 29 Spain: 1.2506
# 30 New Zealand: 1.1747
# 31 Germany: 1.1679
# 32 Singapore: 0.9209




Theses stats reveal a lot !

Last one here, the % of crime made by gun ( LOL, i guessed the right number in a other thread ( or the same here )

www.nationmaster.com...

Crime Statistics > Gun violence > Homicides > % homicides with firearms (most recent) by country

Rank Countries Amount

# 1 Thailand: 79.5805
# 2 South Africa: 59.2028
# 3 Colombia: 45.2092
# 4 Slovakia: 45
# 5 Guatemala: 42.0706
# 6 Zimbabwe: 39.6026
# 7 United States: 39.5604 USA here ! 40% of murder are done by gun !!! :O
# 8 Paraguay: 37.8987
# 9 Macedonia, Republic of: 35.6164
# 10 Uruguay: 35.2941
# 11 Côte d'Ivoire: 33.6982
= 12 Germany: 28.5714
= 12 Barbados: 28.5714
# 14 Portugal: 25.3776
# 15 Slovenia: 25
# 16 Belarus: 24.628
# 17 Mexico: 20.6051
# 18 Lithuania: 18.3223
# 19 Hungary: 17.6707
# 20 Spain: 16.4129
# 21 Australia: 16.3435
# 22 Bulgaria: 15.9494
# 23 New Zealand: 13.4615
# 24 Czech Republic: 13.4432
# 25 Estonia: 12.8049
# 26 Latvia: 11.194
# 27 Chile: 10.3053
# 28 Azerbaijan: 7.377
# 29 Poland: 7.1062
# 30 Moldova: 5.4348
# 31 Ukraine: 3.7682
# 32 Singapore: 2.6316



So.... USA is always in the top 10 in death by gun... And country around are like... 3rd world country ! ( sorry mexico lol ).

And if i get this right, USA triple the death by gun ( per 100 000 habitant ) compare to the worst european country. ( Not sure if Belarus is in europe or not )


Stats can easily be modified, no stats please.... I know to many Europeans to know that Europe is no bed of roses and is just as bad if not worse when is comes to NON-law abiding folk ...


Come on xD. Then they other guys with 4000 death by gun by years is more realistic ? xD Come on !


200 millions of gun in USA, they surely kill more people then 4000 death per years




You should have seen too that "un-gun" crime is higher then gun crime ( 60 % ). You are 16 in the world in none-gun murder.

So, limiting with law guns, will not resume your murderous probleme ! but it would help !


And more murder by "none-gun" is better then more no ? xD


Sorry for my bad english
Im not a USAers



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by FreeQuebec86
xD and LOL at people denying my stats and they show obscur website xD.

USA is #8 in the WORRRRRRRLD for death by gun, behind mexico...


But yeah, with a gun/death ratio like that, i would be paranoiac too and wanted a gun... xD

Gun = people killing = people buying gun for protection = Profit ??? ( For NRA at least
) xD.



Why no-one see the conspiracy in the NRA ? they are the biggest lobby in Washintong DC !


See, this is your issue. How exactly does the NRA make money off guns. You haven't a clue. I am sitting rite next to two guys from Poland, another from London, another from Germany. Put said foot in mouth and go back to watching cartoons please.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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yep i breath no problems..... then i live in a country relatively free from guns and i live in a place were we are not all scared of each other..

is there relevence to your question... why do you ask..

kx



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 12:58 PM
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We here in Australia don't carry guns, and guess what? NEARLY NO-ONE GETS SHOT!
Sometimes I suspect that those two facts are correlated.
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really? perhaps you might find this 2008 report interesting ...

6. Conclusion
This paper takes a closer look at the effects of the National Firearms Agreement on gun deaths. Using a battery of structural break tests, there is little evidence to suggest that it had any significant effects on firearm homicides and suicides. In addition, there also does not appear to be any substitution effects – that reduced access to firearms may have led those bent on committing homicide or suicide to use alternative methods.

Since the 1996 Port Arthur massacre, two other shooting incidents have attracted much media attention in Australia. An incident on 21 October 2002 at Monash University, in which a gunman killed two people and wounded five, prompted the National Handgun Buyback Act of 2003. Under this scheme that ran from July to
December 2003, 70,000 handguns were removed from the community at a cost of approximately A$69 million. Another shooting on 18 June 2007, in which a lone gunman killed a man who had come to the aid of an assault victim and seriously wounded two others in Melbourne’s central business district during morning rush hour,
renewed calls for tougher gun controls. Although gun buybacks appear to be a logical and sensible policy that helps to placate the public’s fears, the evidence so far suggests that in the Australian context, the high expenditure incurred to fund the 1996 gun buyback has not translated into any tangible reductions in terms of firearm deaths.
source: www.ssaa.org.au...
perhaps the perception of one is aligned to the demographic of their residential area, but the published reports suggest otherwise.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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Why does everyone keep comparing other countries to the States? It's ridiculous people, you're comparing apples to oranges. No one has yet answered a simple question I asked, How do you plan on taking arms from all the criminals and gang bangers that have a bigger arsenal cache than most countries? There are around 1 million gang members in the states with who knows how many guns per head, maybe 4-5 avg per head, maybe more? Thats not including non gang affiliated criminals, the avg Joe that owns a safe full of guns and the extremest groups eg; KKK , militia groups These gangs and groups are armed like some wouldn't believe, assault rifles, 50 cal machine guns , RPG, grenades, huge stock piles of ammo you name it they probably got. How are you anti gunners going to realistically take or control their guns? Asking politely isn't going to work, some one please tell me how you would accomplish that? Until you can logically figure that out, the anti gun debate means absolutely nothing.
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Originally posted by jeremiah8401
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That's right. Guns keep people in check.
read this article and you may feel differently about the "evil" of guns
www.snopes.com...

Also our 2nd Amendment rights were given to us so we could overthrow the government if they overstep their boundaries says the founding fathers. Of course no one's gonna get an army together to invade the white house lol but that's one of the reasons we're allowed to have guns


your not going to over throw any government.. to start with the guns you have are toys compared to the big boys and moreimportantly you are all too busy watching tv...

when thing go wrong in europe peeps protest and riot in america they do nothing...
sounds like a dream time to me...

kx


Apparently you don't know how to read. I DID NOT SAY ANYONE WAS GOING TO OVERTHROW ANYTHING. ALL I SAID WAS THAT IS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WHY WE HAVE GUNS. THAT WAS IN 1776 AND OF COURSE TIMES ARE DIFFERENT NOW. I DON'T WATCH TV AT ALL BECAUSE IT IS TOO DEPRESSING TO HEAR ABOUT ALL THE CRAP GOING ON. BUT WHY DON'T YOU READ SOME HISTORY INSTEAD OF ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 01:07 PM
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Awesome post man! I agree 100%. Here's some food for thought:

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US vehicle fatalities in the year 2000: 41,945
Alcohol Related: 17,380 (41%)

US vehicle fatalities in the year 2001: 42,196
Alcohol Related: 17,400 (41%)

US vehicle fatalities in the year 2002: 43,005
Alcohol Related: 17,524 (41%)

US vehicle fatalities in the year 2003: 42,643
Alcohol Related: 17,013 (40%)

US vehicle fatalities in the year 2004: 42,518
Alcohol Related: 16,919 (39%)

US vehicle fatalities in the year 2005: 43,443
Alcohol Related:16,885 (39%)

US vehicle fatalities in the year 2006: 42,532
Alcohol Related: 15,829 (37%)

US vehicle fatalities in the year 2007: 41,059
Alcohol Related: 15,387 (37%)

US vehicle fatalities in the year 2008: 37,261
Alcohol Related: 13,846 (37%)
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Average Total Number of Firearm Fatalities: 29,569 per year
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Based off of this data, If these people are truly concerned about our safety, it would make more sense to get rid of cars and alcohol before we even consider doing anything to our 2nd Amendment, wouldn't it?

-Sam

Drunk Driving Deaths Source
Firearm Deaths Source



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 01:08 PM
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hello and thanks for your contributions but i have to say, your statistics fail miserably.
One cannot use populations to base the data ... a valuable stat would be considered if the baseline (population) were even remotely similar. The stats you've posted don't even come close.
no demographics taken into consideration ... no populus imbalance considered ... no 'land laws' evaluated or compared ... technology of course, does have an impact ... as does the financial ability of the ppl to acquire.

not looking to debunk here just pointing out the truth about statistics ... they are pointless and can be EASILY manipulated to present any view desired.




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