reply to post by Kellyct1987
I have lived in South Carolina. I lived in Greenville and North Charleston. I can tell you, the one problem that made both places dangerous was police
corruption. Cops were not afraid to take bribes in broad daylight when I lived there.
The cop pulled up and the guy that ran a notorious gambling house walked out. The guy handed the cop a big yellow envelope and talked to him for about
five minutes. That night they moved everything out of the gambling house. The next night our business (two doors down from the gambling house) was
raided by four cops in "tactical" dress. They claimed that there were reports of a loud argument and gun shots. There had been neither gun shots or an
argument. When they realized there was no argument and nothing illegal they could see they asked to search the whole building. The next day they moved
everything back in to the gambling establishment and went right back to work.
Greenville and Charleston are also both major hubs in drug importation. Charleston has huge ports and processes thousands of cargo containers every
day. When I lived in Charleston I met two people that worked on the docks. It was not exactly secret information that for the right price you could
get anything in or out of the country. There was a guy fired for rerouting containers full of BMWs and Porsches to South America and Asia for the
black market. By the time he as caught he had rerouted in the neighborhood of $2,000,000 worth of cars. Another guy was arrested for taking part in a
drug smugling ring that had imported literally tons of drugs in to the country. When you have crime with that kind of pay off violence tends to follow
Greenville is right on Interstate 85. It is about three hours north of Atlanta, two hours south of Charlotte, three hours from Asheville, and five
hours from Nashville. That makes it a prime location for distribution. You can get from there to several large cities, multiple college towns, and the
rural parts of southern Apalachia quickly and easily. There are drug dealers in Greenville driving brand new Porsche SUVs and living in upscale
condos. It really was not uncommon to see dealers with $15,000 or $20,000 in their pocket at the club.
Now, if you are a criminal and you know the only way to move up to that kind of money is for the other guy to die or go to jail, what do you do? Do
you sit around and wait for fate or the corrupt police? Chances are, if you are in that line of work, you get proactive and help matters along.
Another problem with South Carolina is the criminal justice system. Honestly, the courts down there are a joke. Two guys beat an Iraq War veteran to
death in a club. It was an unprovoked attack according to everyone that saw what happened. One of the guys was caught two days later. He was let out
on bail less than three days later. He had a previous conviction for attempted murder. The second guy went on the run.
Guy number two was on the lamb for seven days before he was caught. The judge gave him bail the next day. He was on the streets less than 48 hours
after being caught. He then ran again. The judge granted him bail despite the fact that he had previous convictions for drug posession, posession with
intent to distribute, assault, theft, and was the lead suspect in two other shootings.
When the court system keeps dumping repeat offenders, with a history of violence, back on the street the crime rate goes up.
Another example of how much of a joke the system is in South Carolina. Two club owners were caught on tape trying to burn down a rivals club. The
police arrested them and they were released on bail that same day. When it went to court the judge dismissed the charges. He said that there wasn't
enough evidence to hold them responsible. I know the guy that had his club burnt up and saw the tapes. You could clearly see the faces of both guys.
Another camera caught their license plate as they left.
South Carolina is one of the poorest states in the country and it has one of the worst educational systems in the country. So, when you have lucrative
crime on the ports, and cities like Greenville that serve as large drug hubs, then violence will ensue. When there seems to be no other outlet, and
the police are complicit, then there is less incintive to avoid crime. Especially when you know that the court system is going to release you before
your heels even cool.
In South Carolina the vast majority of violence is criminal versus criminal, or drug related. However assaults, robberys, home invasions, and rapes
are side effects. If the criminals are allowed to get that far out of hand their will be collateral damage. If you don't want to be collateral damge
the best thing to do is make sure you can deter force, or answer in kind.
Gun ownership does ipso facto mean that a gun owner can or would be willing to kill another human being.
What it means is, if a person attempts to perform a criminal activity against a person, or their family, and places them in imminent fear of serious
bodily injury, death, or sexual assault they will respond with the necessary force to stop the threat. It isn't about killing another person. It is
about protection from predators that are willing to destroy your mind, body, and soul. It is about protection from people that put no value on your
life and will kill you to take what you have.
In many self defense cases the mere presence of a gun deters or stops the crime. That means that not a shot is fired. In 80% of shootings with
handguns, the person lives. In other words gun owners are not trying to kill the predator. They are trying to respond with an approtpriate level of
force, or threat of force, to stop the predator. Yeah death is a possible result. However, I don't lose sleep over that. If I was at the point I felt
the need to shoot that means it was me or him. And I will be damned if I'm going to let some criminal determine my life expectancy.
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