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Originally posted by WestPoint23
No problem we would just do sorties from our carriers or from bases from south korea there is no need to invade Taiwan if china takes it over you do a blockade of the island and then bomb it they will starve and die due to the air raids and lack of supplies.
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Originally posted by Broadsword20068
Please do not coin the term "ultra-patriots" as meaning "citizens who judge by ethnic background and not country," meaning that anyone super patriotic about America is going to immediately want to be lynching anyone of Chinese descent if we ever go to war with China.
I was being very general, I was not saying ultra-patriots want to lynch the Chinese (despite the fact many do).
Another question. Do you think the fact that it's China, a rising superpower and America's closest rival in today's world will affect people's perception on the war?
Originally posted by zakattack
Um no China maybe more powerful then they were 40 years ago but a new world order controlled by china is not gonna happen, i in some ways disagree with the Iraq war, saddam killed his own people, The US takes over a country and people slowly start to have rights and be treated like humans,
So ask yourself this in the US you pay taxes on what you make, in china The government gives you what they think you need? Do you want that?
Ask yourself this In the US you have a choice to fight in the military or not, China makes you do it. Do you want to be forced in the military or you kids forced in the military?
Ask yourself this Would I rather be put in jail and out in 2 days on bond for being part of a riot, or would you like china to Run over you with a tank?
There are alot of countries in the world that dont want China a Power for the reasons listed above.US does not want china ruling the world So therefore it will never happen, And if China started taking over countries who it sees as Territory and money
You can bet That US,Britain,Japan,Australia,Germany,France,Italy,Canada, and maybe even Russia would have some serious Objections to China taking over Land besides Taiwan. All the Countries listed above have alot to loose if china starts to rule the world so therefore They have alot to gain By sticking together, By sticking together China would have to back down.
Dont get me wrong US does things that many countries do not agree with But A world Ruled by china???? No. No positive things can come of a world ruled by Communists, people need rights.
[edit on 18-3-2005 by zakattack]
Originally posted by NUKE_BOOOSTER
China dont kill people for fun, for oil, provoking terrorists.
Hmmm, should we asks the people of Tibet? How about your coal miners? What say the ghosts of the Tienneman Square massacre? Scroll through this tread and find the picture of the baby girl lying dead in the gutter as people ignore he and simply walk by??
Im sure all thos emonks under a death sentance fell much better no?
Originally posted by NUKE_BOOOSTER
Hmmm, should we asks the people of Tibet? How about your coal miners? What say the ghosts of the Tienneman Square massacre? Scroll through this tread and find the picture of the baby girl lying dead in the gutter as people ignore he and simply walk by??
Im sure all thos emonks under a death sentance fell much better no?
These are political issues. If this happens to US, definitely US will start to kill people. BTW, politics are internal problems, you will never know what happen in the massacre because i were there that time.
Taiwan province belongs to China. Only the minority want to gain independence whereas the others feel proud to be chinese. This is another internal problem again, something that you will never know. Most chinese have families in China and Taiwan, nobody wants to kill their own families or carrying the same blood.
[edit on 20-3-2005 by NUKE_BOOOSTER]
Originally posted by rogue1
I see you skipped Tibet, what no rhetoric to make the situation sound better ? Your argumants are lame the Chinses have a history of agression, just look at their failed boarder incursions into Vietnam.
Originally posted by bodebliss
Rice vows to stand behind the Taiwan Relations Act
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in Tokyo Saturday that Washington will continue to stick to its obligation under the Taiwan Relations Act (TRA).
www.taipeitimes.com...
Originally posted by rapier28
Now, undoubtly you will raise the issue of Tibet again and again. Repeat after me, Tibet was part of China for at least the Qing dynasty that started in 1600's. If you don't believe me,
Originally posted by twchang
If US falls, and another "dynasty" arises, should that dynasty have claim to all the territories of the previous nation? What if California doesn't want to be part of this new "dynasty"? Then surely it is California's right to become its own country.
Originally posted by rapier28
China needs better Human rights!
China has history of aggression!
Read your history books, the only thing remotely construed as attack on a foreign power is Vietnam. The PLA retreated uninaterally to end the war. And rogue1, i doubt you even know why the war was fought for.
Now, undoubtly you will raise the issue of Tibet again and again. Repeat after me, Tibet was part of China for at least the Qing dynasty that started in 1600's. If you don't believe me,
google images "Qing Dynasty Map"
P.S. These forums involving China are turning into a flame war with little substance. No discussion on how to improve rights in China, no accurate portrayals of history, mostly emotionally charged but often ill informed.
COWlan wrote: Sorry but Taiwan is a part of China. It's just a child which always had disobedience problems throughout its life. Since the 1600s, Taiwan had uprisings and everytime, mainland had to send troops and kick its a$$,