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Originally posted by redflag
China has never show aggression toward another people and nation. we has only respond to their attacks. If the war is began.In order to defend our sovereighty
Originally posted by zcheng
Glad you admitted the guilt of your ancestors. Do you approve what US and UK are doing in Iraq?
I admit that it was tragedy. The demonstration later became riots. I think you should remember a picture of a man standing in front of tanks. If the government was so ruthless, tank would have crashed that man. When shots were fired, Beijing had delared state emergency and curfew several days ago. Government was trying everything to calm them. Several PLA soldiers were deaten to death to alive, even though they had loaded guns with them. Could you imagine such a scene, when you have gun to shoot attacker, but you can not, not even a warning shot because of the order of no shot?
Originally posted by FredT
You sound just like Zcheng. I am begining to wonder how many accounts he has. Anyway, lets ask the people of Nepal and Tibet about Chinese agression shall we? Taiwan would give us an earfull too. Ooops forgo tthe Spratly islands too. What sovereighty? Replace sovereighty with Territorial ambition and I might buy into it.
Originally posted by FredT
You sound just like Zcheng. I am begining to wonder how many accounts he has. Anyway, lets ask the people of Nepal and Tibet about Chinese agression shall we? Taiwan would give us an earfull too. Ooops forgo tthe Spratly islands too. What sovereighty? Replace sovereighty with Territorial ambition and I might buy into it.
Originally posted by zcheng
Originally posted by Apollyon
The American Indian in the US that picked the right side did ok. (The tribes that backed the English during the French and Indian wars or the Colonies in the Revolution are still for the most part still on what were traditionally their lands) The Indian in America enjoys a special status as a citizen of there own soverign nation within the US. They can choose to be citizens of the US or not. The Tribes often make a handsom profit on casinos or tax free goods. This is not to say it is all peaches and cream poverty still runs rampant on resevations and the were genocidal attrocites commited by both sides. Today Indians look at the past and at the future.
You are so shameless to claim the good things done to native Indian in US. Native Indians are near distinction after genocide by the whites. What's the name of the "there own soverign nation within the US". All I know they are in reservations and poor. They are like animals in the zoo!
Originally posted by zcheng
Originally posted by devilwasp
firstly less personal attacks.
secondly the "comunist ,I use the world as roughly as possible,has been no golden boy for human rights and before you go on about how we whites have done this and that i totaly agree we british are one of the worst. we invented death camps. we pilaged and killed/raped/mutilated local civilains BUT that was all before we joined the human rights thingy (is to late at night to remember its proper title). The chinese comunist goverment as I remember killed many people at a demonstration because they sent in the army. now correct me if i am wrong but isnt that murder?
Glad you admitted the guilt of your ancestors. Do you approve what US and UK are doing in Iraq?
I admit that it was tragedy. The demonstration later became riots. I think you should remember a picture of a man standing in front of tanks. If the government was so ruthless, tank would have crashed that man. When shots were fired, Beijing had delared state emergency and curfew several days ago. Government was trying everything to calm them. Several PLA soldiers were deaten to death to alive, even though they had loaded guns with them. Could you imagine such a scene, when you have gun to shoot attacker, but you can not, not even a warning shot because of the order of no shot?
Finally for the interest of all Chinese, the riots were put down. If not, China would have become Soviet Union today before its collapse. I am glad then government maintained the stability and achieved rapid developments in economy, etc.
Originally posted by Apollyon
so at Tiananmen Square 3500 protesters died of what ? Natural causes?
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
Originally posted by Apollyon
so at Tiananmen Square 3500 protesters died of what ? Natural causes?
Sounds just like America's denial of it's responsibility in the single-handed destruction of the Native American way of life.
Originally posted by Apollyon
non sequitor mean anything to you? In other words WTF does Tiananmen have to do with Indians ? I never said that a great many Indians didn't get a raw deal 100+ years ago ? They got over it and moved on.
Originally posted by devilwasp
no goverment wanted that man crushed but like a solider the man didnt follow that order, every soldier can disobey an order if it moraly or humanely wrong.
also yes they were beaten to death because the people seen their friends/families being shot by the army do you think they will be understanding towards some grunts?
Originally posted by MrZ
Originally posted by FredT
You sound just like Zcheng. I am begining to wonder how many accounts he has. Anyway, lets ask the people of Nepal and Tibet about Chinese agression shall we? Taiwan would give us an earfull too. Ooops forgo tthe Spratly islands too. What sovereighty? Replace sovereighty with Territorial ambition and I might buy into it.
I don't really know that there was any Chinese agression towards Nepal, please provide me with some evidence. I know that China and Nepal had a brief war after Nepal invaded Tibet(Twice), which was then under Chinese control and had to pay tribute to China after their defeat. Also, during the demarcation of border between China and Nepal, i believe China conceeded some land to Nepal after the two sides conducted a survey.
Originally posted by zcheng
Many soldiers were beaten to death alive, before any shot were fired. They were murdered by mobs among demonstrators. Those blatant murders finally quicked the final decision to crack down. You are wrong in the sequence of events.
Originally posted by Apollyon
Ever been to the midwest? Didn't think so. Ever been to a res? Didn't think so. Yeah there is still poverty among the Indian population, but there are poor white folks too. Ever been to an Indian smoke shop? The Indians got a raw deal but now they take advantange of there status. Casinos are HUGE cash cow's there entire tribes of wealthy Indians because of this ....how many Tibetans have benifited from there status.
Ironicly Indians are more patriotic than most other groups and many serve in the military how many Tibetans JOIN the PLA??? You show a profound ignorance of the real status quo in the US. You are also in blatent denial about the fundamental flaws of China.
Originally posted by mad scientist
hahaha you must be one of the few people who could possible believe that. How many stormtroopers were beaten to death by the crowd ? Please this is getting ridiculous, you are the modern day Tokyo Rose, z.
Originally posted by zcheng
Originally posted by mad scientist
hahaha you must be one of the few people who could possible believe that. How many stormtroopers were beaten to death by the crowd ? Please this is getting ridiculous, you are the modern day Tokyo Rose, z.
Of course, no Western media would tell you about such events. I forgive your ignorance on this matter.
Originally posted by zcheng
Many soldiers were beaten to death alive, before any shot were fired. They were murdered by mobs among demonstrators. Those blatant murders finally quicked the final decision to crack down. You are wrong in the sequence of events.
Originally posted by sweatmonicaIdo
As for Nepal and Tibet, well, they do believe they belong to China, so you can't really blame them for aggression there.