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Originally posted by Pryde87
reply to post by One Moment
Oh my. I am face palming so much, I am starting to get a headache now.
Saying that Contrails are proof that Chemtrails exist, is like me pointing to the sun and saying its proof of Nibiru!! You are just misidentifying something and your ignorance wont allow people to correct your error.
There are no chemtrials!!!
Originally posted by LurkerMan
wut about the patent?
Chemtrails: US Patent #5003186: Stratospheric Welsbach Seeding For Reduction Of Global Warming
Originally posted by stars15k
Only "chemtrailers" insist you can tell a contrail from a "chemtrail" by watching a video. You cannot tell chemical composition of something from a video, a picture or even "with your own eyes". They are also the only people who insist a "mere vapor trail" cannot persist. A "mere vapor trail" would be water vapor and the expected components of jet engine through a jet engine. A CLOUD is water vapor and the expected components of air pollution caused by industy, agricultural, and transportation, yet they can last for hours and drift for hundreds of miles before evaporating.
Testing is done that shows NOTHING but jet fuel through a jet engine. Not aluminium, barium, viruses, blood cells, heavy metals, pharmacueticals, or any of the compounds alternately suggested. It also shows that one gallon of jet fuel combusted produces 1 gallone of water vapor, but triggers 20,000 gallons of atmospheric water vapor to condense. That is incredibly dilute. There are not ANY credible reports of planes, airplanes, pilots, flight techs, chemical haulers, suppliers or producers, or any of the necessary support staff needed to keep such a plan in operation. Logisically, the theory is impossible.
Now consider how small a particle of anything suspected to be "sprayed" will be. It would take hours, possibly days, possibly NEVER to reach the ground, given such atmospheric properties as wind and updrafts. No one has yet to harness wind or gravity, and if they had it would be a much bigger story.
Contrails have been exhaustively studied for decades. "Chemtrails" have been around since the start of the internet, and the use of the internet by people who would rather believe in unproven and unprovable intrigue than learn how the real world operates. Their proof is only videos (invalid as proof as stated above) and vague and shoddy "research" and testing by people who get money by selling books, videos and making paid appearances.
Go figure. Just watch, I'll be called a shill, a disinformationalist, and such. I will have both my mental health and my intelligence insulted. I will be called one of "them". All because I believe the provable science over the silly myth. Have at it. I'm actually used to it by now.
Originally posted by GrinchNoMore
reply to post by Phage
Sure , because you say so, where were all these "contrails" in all the years prior to late 90's ? oh, you found reports of 3-4 times.
Let us see any proof that these are naturally occuring, and explain to me why where i live they are nicely layered one after another in a checkerboard pattern.
I have watched the skies all my life and even recall in amazement when some of the planes trails would last almost 2 minutes,, then suddenly one sunny day in 1998, with ZERO clouds in the forecast and i am outside flying remote control planes and other r'c's me and my buddies are suddenly hit by a shadow...
I recall that very clearly, i said what the hell is that and we spent all day trying to figure it out,, then as the summer proceeded it happened more and more, amazingly not allowing a single day to be sunny ever again.
How does a contrail gain in size and cover the sky ?
How when i sit on my porch watching the sunset can these totally annihilate the sun and make it dark ??
How is it NOONE noticed them before, and now they happen at regularly scheduled intervals ?
I guess there is MORE vapor in the air than ever, and this vapor attracts more vapor and it fills the sky ??
Are you seriously trying to tell us a propeller plane can even cause this ??
I have been to airshows for YEARS, never seen anything at ANY altitude.
This has truly pissed me off, i am going to make efforts to spread this everywhere now, simply because you deny it so much... Thanks
[edit on 26-5-2010 by GrinchNoMore]