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Originally posted by SpectreDC
Originally posted by SaturnFX
heh, funny topic.
It takes a special kind of idiot to suggest the only way you can lose an argument is by the other side using magic.
Thats really my only contribution to this thread...I got to go dress up like a chicken and shoot the queen at a baseball game now...not sure why..just...must...
....You're calling someone an idiot when you're calling hypnotism magic?
Originally posted by SpectreDC
While I haven't read the pdf, I think I have an understanding of what the OP and the pdf is talking about as I have pretty good knowledge on the subject and while using the term hypnosis and mind control are certainly a bad choice in words, in a way it isn't incorrect although again not quite right. You just need to understand it in a different context.
Originally posted by kozmo
Originally posted by K J Gunderson
I tried to open it 3 times and it locked up my browser all 3 times. It could be me but my adobe reader is still working and my browser is still working with everything else. Perhaps you can sum up the most salient points?
My apologies regarding your difficulty. I've no problem opening it. Regarding your request... it would be a HUGE disservice to even attempt to do so.
The document can be, at times, very technical in nature and is written to progressively introduce information that builds upon itself. Can you recommend another method for me to give you access to it?
Originally posted by Southern Guardian
Originally posted by kozmo
Typical! A half dozen or so posts defending Obama without even reading the PDF!
The 60 page PDF that claims Obama has the power to control minds because his a good speaker? The same PDF file that claims hypnosis is somehow ideologically linked? The same 60 page PDF that sources from blogs?
By all means continue to defend the file Kozmo. It just shows to what lengths of desperation you are prepared to go to politically smear.
Does it matter who wrote the PDF?
For such a 'scientific' claim? Yes it matters! If somebody claimed all Ron Paul supporters are racists from a psychological stand point, would it matter their credentials and their sources, research over the matter?
Does anyone become concerned with who writes text books?
Should they not? Are you to suggest nobody should be concerned for sources or references over such claims? To me it just sounds as though you want everybody to readily take your smears as they are.
as long as the information is factual and correct - and this PDF is both.
So in your conclusion:
-Hypnosis is ideological discrimminating.
-All Obama supporters are irrational and easy to control.
-Sources and credentials over such claims are of little to no importance.
right.
[edit on 17-4-2010 by Southern Guardian]
Originally posted by K J Gunderson
Originally posted by SpectreDC
Originally posted by SaturnFX
heh, funny topic.
It takes a special kind of idiot to suggest the only way you can lose an argument is by the other side using magic.
Thats really my only contribution to this thread...I got to go dress up like a chicken and shoot the queen at a baseball game now...not sure why..just...must...
....You're calling someone an idiot when you're calling hypnotism magic?
The idea of the type of mass hypnosis put forward by this thread is not substantiated by any real science so magic seems plenty fitting.
Originally posted by felonius
One mans science is a another mans magic. They are both capable of being religions as well.
if he's using hypnosis, why do half the people hate him?
hypnotism = magic...a trick that is half bull, half just suggesting what people want to do anyhow. psychologists even attest to this, that hypotism doesnt really work unless the person wants it to work to begin with..or feel they wanted to admit but needed that extra little push, etc.
Originally posted by Aggie Man
Yeah right...
Above all, the person must be willing. No one can hypnotize you if you don't want to be hypnotized. Your natural defenses in your mind will prevent this from happening.