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The Bankers' Manifesto of 1892
circleof13.blogspot.com...
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People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. History repeats itself in regular cycles. This truth is well known among our principal men who are engaged in forming an imperialism of the world. While they are doing this, the people must be kept in a state of political antagonism.
The question of tariff reform must be urged through the organization known as the Democratic Party, and the question of protection with the reciprocity must be forced to view through the Republican Party.
By thus dividing voters, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us, except as teachers to the common herd. Thus, by discrete actions, we can secure all that has been so generously planned and successfully accomplished.
Originally posted by ugie1028
AWESOME THREAD!!! (S&F)
Ive been saying this a lot more lately,
Deny ignorance, ASK questions!!!
I am an American/san marino citizen, i traveled to europe, and well when i went, their view of Americans are what you just described.
The people really need to wake up and break away from this live in fear, head in sand mentality.
Originally posted by Hx3_1963
I think I'll go with the De-Centralized Gov approach...
Keep a office in the dead center of America where the States Governors meet for a week twice a year to pass ideas/suggestions around...or in case of emergencies...
IMHO if we called back all of our troops and closed all our overseas bases and just left everyone alone we would get rid of most emergencies...
And while De-Centralizing .Gov why not centralize all the partys...
Every time I think of the division I think of ... :shk:
The Bankers' Manifesto of 1892
circleof13.blogspot.com...
~
People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. History repeats itself in regular cycles. This truth is well known among our principal men who are engaged in forming an imperialism of the world. While they are doing this, the people must be kept in a state of political antagonism.
The question of tariff reform must be urged through the organization known as the Democratic Party, and the question of protection with the reciprocity must be forced to view through the Republican Party.
By thus dividing voters, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us, except as teachers to the common herd. Thus, by discrete actions, we can secure all that has been so generously planned and successfully accomplished.
IMHO if we just had the Human Race Party we would be much better off...
[edit on 9/16/2009 by Hx3_1963]
Originally posted by detachedindividual
reply to post by JaxonRoberts
Oh my.
Just the video alone of representatives stealing the votes of others should be enough to have you all protesting in the streets.
THIS IS CRIMINAL!
There is simply NO EXCUSE for it. And how do these representatives "decline" to comment? They are YOUR REPRESENTATIVES! Stop "pleading" with them for a response, and FREAKIN' DEMAND IT!
Stop being so pitifully weak and complacent.
This is why America is doomed to fail, and why I completely agree with the OP. You people couldn't give a rats ass about what your government is doing. As long as you have some crap TV to watch and enough to distract you, you'll let them get away with this.
You wonder why other nations think all Americans are idiots? This is why!
And before anyone says it, we in Britain actually take action. Were you watching the protests? Did you see our headlines over the Expenses scandal? Did you see how many MP's were hounded out of office? Did you see how many of the wealthy elites had their property trashed and went into hiding?
Yeah, we get a lot wrong and we allow a lot to happen through inaction, but at least we know what's going on and we try to get answers. We don't always focus on the important issues, but at least when something major happens we take some action.
And let's not have any more BS, ok? America CREATES wars in order to PROFIT from wars. And the US HAS profited from war, all the way through. Except it wets its pants at the thought of any hostilities on its own shores. And the world is well aware of that. Time Americans became aware of it
Q: Who owns the stock of the Federal Reserve Banks?
A: The dynastic families of the ruling World Order, internationalists who are loyal to no race, religion, or nation. They are families such as the Rothschilds, the Warburgs, the Schiffs, the Rockefellers, the Harrimans, the Morgans and others known as the elite, or "the big rich"...... www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...
Chart 1 reveals the linear connection between the Rothschilds and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York. The two principal Rothschild representatives in New York, J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn,Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted....
[J. P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn,Loeb & Co. were the firms] who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914. These firms had their principal officers appointed to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914. In 1914 a few families (blood or business related) owning controlling stock in existing banks (such as in New York City) caused those banks to purchase controlling shares in the Federal Reserve regional banks.
Examination of the charts and text in the House Banking Committee Staff Report of August, 1976 and the current stockholders list of the 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks show this same family [in] control www.save-a-patriot.org...
The Wall Street Crash of 1929 was the beginning of a world-wide credit deflation which lasted through 1932, and from which the Western democracies did not recover until they began to rearm for the Second World War.
During this depression, the trust operators achieved further control by their backing of three international swindlers, The Van Sweringen brothers, Samuel Insull, and Ivar Kreuger. These men pyramided billions of dollars worth of securities to fantastic heights.
The bankers who promoted them and floated their stock issue could have stopped them at any time, by calling loans of less than a million dollars, but they let these men go on until they had incorporated many industrial and financial properties into holding companies, which the banks then took over for nothing
. Insull piled up public utility holdings throughout the Middle West, which the banks got for a fraction of their worth. Ivar Kreuger was backed by Lee Higginson Company, supposedly one of the nation’s most reputable banking houses. The Saturday Evening Post called him "more than a financial titan", and the English review Fortnightly said, in an article written December 1931, under the title, "A Chapter in Constructive Finance": "It is as a financial irrigator that Kreuger has become of such vital importance to Europe."*
"Financial irrigator" we may remember, was the title bestowed upon Jacob Schiff by Newsweek Magazine, when it described how Schiff had bought up American railroads with Rothschild’s money.
The Federal Reserve Board could have checked the enormous credit expansion of Insull and Kreuger by investigating the security on which their loans were being made, but the Governors never made any examination of the activities of these men.
.... if a speculator is being promoted by a reputable banking house, as Kreuger was promoted by Lee Higginson Company, the only way he could be stopped would be by an investigation of his actual financial resources, which in Kreuger’s case would have proved to be nil.
[Sounds just like the leveraged buyout feeding frenzy of the 1980's and 1990's -- in other words US citizens were set up to be fleeced by the bankers AGAIN!]
Following the secret meeting of the Federal Reserve Board and the heads of the foreign central banks in 1927, the Federal Reserve Banks in a few months doubled their holdings of Government securities and acceptances, which resulted in the exportation of five hundred million dollars in gold in that year.
"The agreement between the Bank of England and the Washington Federal Reserve authorities many months ago was that we would force the export of 725 million of gold by reducing the bank rates here, thus helping the stabilization of France and Europe and putting France on a gold basis." [ Clarence W. Barron, They Told Barron, Harpers, New York, 1930, p. 353] (April 20, 1928)
On February 6, 1929, Mr. Montagu Norman, Governor of the Bank of England, came to Washington and had a conference with Andrew Mellon, Secretary of the Treasury. Immediately after that mysterious visit, the Federal Reserve Board abruptly changed its policy and pursued a high discount rate policy, abandoning the cheap money policy which it had inaugurated in 1927 after Mr. Norman’s other visit......
During three years of "unrestrained speculation", Mr. Warburg had not seen fit to make any remarks about the condition of the Stock Exchange. A friendly organ, The New York Times, not only gave the report two columns on its editorial page, but editorially commented on the wisdom and profundity of Mr. Warburg’s observations. Mr. Warburg’s concern was genuine, for the stock market bubble had gone much farther than it had been intended to go, and the bankers feared the consequences if the people realized what was going on. When this report in The New York Times started a sudden wave of selling on the Exchange, the bankers grew panicky, and it was decided to ease the market somewhat. Accordingly, Warburg’s National City Bank rushed twenty-five million dollars in cash to the call money market, and postponed the day of the crash.
The revelation of the Federal Reserve Board’s final decision to trigger the Crash of 1929 appears, amazingly enough, in The New York Times. On April 20, 1929, the Times headlined, "Federal Advisory Council Mystery"....
Both J.P. Morgan and Kuhn, Loeb Co. had "preferred lists" of men to whom they sent advance announcements of profitable stocks. The men on these preferred lists were allowed to purchase these stocks at cost, that is, anywhere from 2 to 15 points a share less than they were sold to the public. The men on these lists were fellow bankers, prominent industrialists, powerful city politicians, national Committeemen of the Republican and Democratic Parties, and rulers of foreign countries. The men on these lists were notified of the coming crash,....
Predictably enough, all of the big bankers rode through the depression "with flying colors." The people who suffered were the workers and farmers who had invested their money in get-rich stocks, after the President of the United States, Calvin Coolidge, and the Secretary of the Treasury, Andrew Mellon, had persuaded them to do it.
There had been some warnings of the approaching crash in England, which American newspapers never saw. The London Statist on May 25, 1929 said:
"The banking authorities in the United States apparently want a business panic to curb speculation."
The London Economist on May 11, 1929, said:
"The events of the past year have seen the beginnings of a new technique, which, if maintained and developed, may succeed in ‘rationing the speculator without injuring the trader.’"
Governor Charles S. Hamlin quoted this statement at the Senate hearings in 1931 and said, in corroboration of it:
"That was the feeling of certain members of the Board, to remove Federal Reserve credit from the speculator without injuring the trader." "
Governor Hamlin did not bother to point out that the "speculators" he was out to break were the school-teachers and small town merchants who had put their savings into the stock market, or that the "traders" he was trying to protect were the big Wall Street operators, Bernard Baruch and Paul Warburg.
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com...
Originally posted by I_am_Spartacus
Originally posted by ugie1028
AWESOME THREAD!!! (S&F)
Ive been saying this a lot more lately,
Deny ignorance, ASK questions!!!
I am an American/san marino citizen, i traveled to europe, and well when i went, their view of Americans are what you just described.
The people really need to wake up and break away from this live in fear, head in sand mentality.
yeah, who are the ones who saved whos arse on at least a couple big occasions???????????
Originally posted by Inkrinhuminge
Dear OP,
You are preaching to the choir here on ATS.