Originally posted by Stormdancer777
OK Mr. Smarty pants,

What do you suggest?

I am constantly researcher and verifying,

When I do find something of interest, I get damned for it.

I tell you what , we need to start a topic,

Where we all can participate on a level playing field, no haters allowed,

Honest to god let's find common ground.

This is really a good suggestion, and for some reason lately, I've started to write on this forum again. Something is telling me that now is the time to begin to coordinate ourselves. Sounds easy, but not so.

We all have different ideas and theories, for whatever reasons. I think some of us are really starting to understand the much bigger picture, and many of those pictures in our minds are very similar to other peoples.

The problem is choice, it always has been. It will continue to be, until the collective is coordinated, chaos will reign.

Many, of what I'll term "lightbringers", are already so convinced that a conscious choice will be made in what the future brings. It is those that need to come together. It is those that need to coordinate their efforts.

If this can't be done, in time, I surmise we will enter another dark age.

Great way to rack up Flags and Stars

is to post a thread blaming Americans for the sorry position they're in


These are the Americans who have been hit by the biggest heist in history

These are the same Americans who've DIED in agony on foreign shores

for WHAT reason again ... WHAT reason ?


To GET Americans riled up and prepared to KILL and BE killed in a foreign land, the Israeli-owned US media LIED and claimed 9/11 was the work of
'ragheads' from Iraq

and the WHORE US media told these LIES to the American public

at the SAME time that ISRAELIS were arrested for dancing and laughing in JOY as 3,000 Americans burned to death in those towers

WHILE Americans were burning to death in the towers

they phoned home .. to say goodbye to their loves ones


And at the SAME TIME, the Dancing Israelis .. who ALREADY had their cameras trained on the soon to be demolished towers


were ALSO on their cell phones

except THEY weren't having to burn to death or say goodbye


WHO were they phoning, huh ?

And WHY were they spirited OUT of the US

at the same TIME the whore US media was lying its face off to Americans

to get them to go to Iraq and start killing Iraqis ?


So now we're into the MILLIONS of Iraqis DEAD and MAIMED for life

their country, schools, hospitals, in shambles

And THOUSANDS of Americans dead AND poisoned by Lab created toxins and vaccinations


AND we have MORE millions of Afghanis DEAD and MAIMED and THEIR country bombed to dust

and MORE Americans DEAD and DYING in Afghanistan



And NOW Israel wants ANOTHER WAR

THIS time in Iran !


Do you believe Americans are going to FALL FOR IT AGAIN ?

Does Israel 'feel lucky' ?


Let's see


And if the Americans jack up on Israel and decide they do NOT want to bomb the entire world so that Israel can control it

WHAT false flag will be arranged to AGAIN send Americans hysterical with fear (like 9/11) ?

These are the questions most Americans are asking themselves

much to Israel's annoyance



As to blaming Americans for the sorry state their country has been reduced to (thank you so much, Israeli lobbyists)

is simply the OLD GAME of 'blame the victim'

and guess WHO invented that one ?


Yes. We know ... we know

So what was the point? I got to some big words and really didn't feel like thinking about it and skipped to the videos.. but those guys talk to much.

Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
How about most...

Well how about this-
Everyone in the world is:
Ignorant of something
Lazy to a degree
Fearful of something

Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
and the thread title was quite intentional. Seems you can't make people think for themselves around here unless you tick 'em off with the title.

True enough.
That's rule #1 of the main stream media... except for the 'think for themselves' bit. But I digress .

How about accepting responsibility for one's own actions or negligence? I guess it is far more easy to come up with some kind of conspiracy theory to explain why we are in the crap up to our eyeballs, rather than accept that it is our own fault for living on so much credit we are unable to pay back.

It is my own fault if I am in debt - Nobody else's. If I default, my credit rating drops. Nobody else is to blame. Unless of course, I want to be completey spineless. It's the same for all people, companies, industries, banks, governments and nations.

I have been living on far too much credit in recent years. I lost my job at the start of this year. The main reason being that many companies were unable to obtain bank credit to pay their staff. Many industries began to flounder for the same reason. Banks began to realise that much of the US debt in which they had invested was totally worthless and could not continue as they were.

I didn't give up. I finally found another job - and I am continuing to pay my debt as best I can by contacting my creditors and making alternative arrangements. I don't blame the US - and the US should certainly not blame anyone else.

Accept responsibility for your own mess, regain your self-respect and get on with the job of sorting yourself out. It's not the end of the world and there is no bogey-man out to get you.



[edit on 16-9-2009 by Adamus]

Your country has a cancer( funnily enough debt cells never die). Just because your attention is distracted by a discounted Snickers bar or obama`s speech won`t change the reality. You don`t have to choose red pill or blue pill dear America. You need to start manufacturing and building muscles, and get rid of that huge service economy fat belly.When was the last time you were actually using your fingers to assemble things, to sandpaper, to paint to drill to plane to weld, to...? Was it in this century? here is your answer to sweeping poverty nationwide.A country that worshipps football and plays nintendo and stares at American idol while expecting that cars,trains ,cameras and bikes grow themselves on trees ..is simply expected to be eaten by cancer.

What happened ?

Simple. Evangelical Christians happened. Falwell led his flock of crazies out from the cave and the rest is history.

Most of the world is disgusted with America. It is time you all woke up. I thought having Bush in power would have been enough as in "How on earth did this idiot ever get voted in?" but sadly no.
The truth is there is no democracy left in America. Your Presidents are not voted in any more they are put in power by the black ops government "elite". Your elections are now shams of ill repute.
You bombed your own Trade Center so you could invade some other country that was not even the supposed bombers. I mean...how stupid do you people have to be before you wake up to it all?
The rest of the world is aghast at what you put up with!
And there is not even a whimper as all your freedoms are removed from you daily?
I don't get it?

Not only are most people sleeping and few of us Awake,but..

They keep everyone divided. It's always this group against another group. It's like they have us controlling ourselves through each other to the point no one pulls together and really does something that will make a difference.

~NOAH