Originally posted by Electro38


We are productive, resourceful, ingenious/inventive people. Think about how the world would be now if there it weren't for the American people. For one, France and England would be speaking German in a Nazi empire.

French here.

I agree but don't forget that at the begin your Elites (Ford, Rockefeller) took a huge part in the rise of Hitler. To be brief there is Tow America :

-The High Elite, the bad guys who create chaos in secrecy

-The amercican pepole, the good guys who came to save the world from tyranny that their own Elite had created...

You see the picture now?

But you are right in the first place. I just wanted to say that a Panzer without Standard Oil's Oil wounldn't have make his way to Paris ...(Yes We French were bad at defending ourselves but it s an another problem)

For England, They fought bravely but Seems to me Hitler wasn t really interrested in invading England from the begining. maybe I am wrong but It will remain a mystery .

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
I think this forum is full of negative energy and is in need of a good smudging.

We can start by admitting all politicians suck.

Blowing smoke your way,

agreed, most politicians are utterly corrupt

[edit on 20-9-2009 by ineverknew]

Well, yes you are. We all are. The entire population of the planet.

And when this thread has dropped off the front page, people will go back to the same behavior while eating some candy and playing with their computers. Because you cant change it.

You are a slave, just like everybody else. Which is why im hoping for a extinction event in 2011. You cant build a new world without crushing the old one first. Perhaps the new world will be just as bad, but at least while building it, people may be free.


[edit on 20-9-2009 by Copernicus]

Originally posted by stevegmu
Does anyone here actually know any politicians?

Yes! I knew a Governor and a U.S. Senator. Not personally. However, I followed all that they did very closely. They spoke against policies of their party as much as the other party.

Both of them were smacked down. By their own parties.

We need to start with term limits for Congress. Plus that people need to be educated about how important it is to vote in the primaries.

That is the only place we have a choice. But...what happens is that we get manipulated to vote for the man/woman the party wants in. We could, if we stood together change that. One of the loudest shouts we hear during the primaries is: "Don't waste your vote!". Yep, and they tell us exactly who to vote for so that will not happen.

We already have the tools now we need to stick together.

Originally posted by Electro38

Originally posted by JaxonRoberts

Originally posted by Electro38
You couldn't say the same thing for all the people of all the countries of the world?



As far as all the other countries of the world, go back and read the thread... those from other nations look at us in just this light. We have become a joke as a people... a scary, well armed, reactionary, joke of a people... Not the image I'm really proud of.

You probably need to study history.
This was before Israel. All we did was reluctantly enter a war that was not started by us and go on to stop it and free people. We subsequently became the worlds first super power, and then hated by the world. Why?

You're insulting the people of America in your initial post, the people?
It is hypocritical because while everyone insults the American people there are real horrors happening in this world being perpetrated by people who are much, much more fitting of those insults, and because I never see any threads insulting the people of other nations. Insult the people of America and receive instant praise and adulation. That's hypocrisy.

The people of America are the ones who fought and died freeing Europe from the mass murdering Nazis. Middle class and poor Americans of which I am a descendant. Americans can do not right in the eyes of the world. Even when we do good things we are never credited? That is called hypocrisy.

Did you know that the money from our taxes go to providing food for people who are starving all over the world? Money from the pockets of poor and middle class Americans goes to feeding the starving people in this world. It's a horror that most of that food is intercepted by thugs who then go and sell it to those poor starving people. But somehow, despite these things Americans are the bad guys in the world.

One thing I know for certain is that regardless of all your whining about America and insulting the American people, we are going to continue to eat hamburgers, watch senseless TV sitcoms, be entertained by Britney Spears, and perhaps be less than informed about current politics, yet we'll still be one of the most productive countries in the world with one of the highest standards of living, and we'll still be the ones the rest of the world come crying to when they need help! Why is that?

We make things happen and we run your world, that's why. A greasy hamburger in one hand and one eye on TV and we run your world!

Why is it so many people of other countries want to desperately live here and adopt our culture?

And that brings up the fact that Americans are really made up of many different cultures and ethnicity. We are not all white Anglo Saxons. My grandparents were from Italy and Ireland. Most people in America are either directly from other places or descendants of immigrants. Americans are people from all over the world and from many different cultures. Go study your history.

You need a lot more life experiences to realize that not everything is so stereotypical in your idealized and biased world. All of the things you've said about Americans has been said for many years, your thread and all that was said in it is very cliche` and hypocritical.

[edit on 16-9-2009 by Electro38]

What ? I am French and Trust me After WWII French people were very happy when you had enter in Paris in 1945, I ve seen a lot of photos showing French Throwing flowers to americans ! and It was the same in Belgium, Amsterdam...

Just went back to reread this thread... Five months have passed... The faces around here have changed somewhat... But the game remains the same... NOTHING HAS CHANGED!

We are doomed I am afraid... It will be interesting to see what those who read this thread, and others like it think once this nation becomes the late great former United States of America...

Complacency is the disease, but is there a cure that the American People will accept and implement? I fear that the answer is no...

I'm glad this thread came back around. I've got to tell you, I love the title. I want to name my next band Ignorant, Lazy, Gutless Cowards who live in Fear. And you have a point. But it's still my home and I do what I can to point out the ignorant part, especially when that ignorance threatens Liberty, which I love.
Love the title. Brilliance.

Although I agree with your idea the words were uncalled for you do not need insults to get your point across.. Tha was an obvious attention getter I refuse to star flag for that reason. I have a question for the repliers who agree...What are you doing about it. Sitting here complaining on the internet doesnt do alot!!!