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Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by badgerprints
like all government programs here in the states
Again and again, this flies against the fact, i.e. health care in Europe ain't shabby and costs much less... Your point?
Originally posted by mc1km
You the American people also fall under most of those points, your government undermines the constitution at every opportunity
and are actively killing people in other countries to spread "democracy"
, in terms of freedom Americans generally work longer hours than Europeans from what I've seen (and often have several jobs).
There's a quote somewhere that goes something like "the best slaves are those who falsely believe they are free" which I think is relevant here,
most Europeans probably can't understand why you aren't all biting Obama's hand off but instead fighting it.
[edit on 17-8-2009 by mc1km]
Originally posted by Zealott
reply to post by kiwifoot
You're double speaking bud. While some of the US attempts to stop the representatives from doing exactly what you're complaining about and doing in this thread, and you condemn those people (The noise makers)for it because, "You're tired of it."
Are you, jealous? Please don't be, no reason to be.
And do you REALLY think americans are pissed over JUST health care reform? You really think that's the true issue?
Oh and change the channel, ignore that particular thread, and stop crying.
When americans think America is the best they're ignorant, stupid and obnoxious.
When an american does what America was founded for doing, wake up realise it's not the best and begin to do something about it they're: Stupid obnoxious and loud..
Great post. I like the metaphor of the teenager.
I swore I'd keep out of this debate, because:
-There is no way my opinion would help/change/matter
-There is just too much arguing too and fro for there to be any decent debate
-I am not from/in the US so have no idea what health care is actually like
I have been drawn into this simply because there has been much NHS bashing of late.
Your post actually make a lot of sense, and reiterates to me that I ought to re-adopt my original principles and bug the hell out.
I just hope our sibling the US finds a system that is acceptable to the majority of Americans, that is workable, and that you come through it without anybody doing anythng stupid.
But when it boils down to it, it's none of my business I guess.
Good luck, kiwifoot signing out from all US Health Care Reform threads.
Over and Out
You the American people also fall under most of those points, your government undermines the constitution at every opportunity and are actively killing people in other countries to spread "democracy", in terms of freedom
Originally posted by LetTheTruthBeTold
Now, we are being attacked because we are complaining about our government stepping over it's boundries once again? Please, give me a break! Everybody complains that Americans are arrogant and ignorant, when their idea of America is based off the very government power-plays that we are protesting against
Originally posted by SpacePunk
reply to post by ZombieOctopus
Look Nancy, we don't care what people in other countries think. We just, as a whole, don't. We are the most powerful nation on the planet. We give you guys all kinds of money, and if you don't like Americans or America, give the money back. If your country keeps is then just shut up, and do as you are told.
If you, and others go like sheep to the slaughter, don't expect Americans to follow you.
Originally posted by SpacePunk
Look [snip], we don't care what people in other countries think. We just, as a whole, don't. We are the most powerful nation on the planet. We give you guys all kinds of money, and if you don't like Americans or America, give the money back. If your country keeps is then just shut up, and do as you are told.
Originally posted by injunfeller
American's are intellectually bankrupt there is no debate there, but your concepts and understanding of socialism shows that you are among the intellectually bankrupt.
who do you think created your car, or your coat, or shirt, or every other benefit that you enjoy in your life?
Enjoy the fruits of another mans labor while you can, when the creators in this reality rise up cast the parasites away, your ilk will know their place.
I hate when the ignorant beasts of burden start talking like they actually have a clue what is going on...