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Originally posted by buddhasystem
Originally posted by badgerprints
Originally posted by buddhasystem
Again and again, this flies against the fact, i.e. health care in Europe ain't shabby and costs much less... Your point?
My point is that this is NOT Europe.
The US GOVERNMENT IS NOT CAPABLE OF MAKING ANYTING LESS COSTLY.
Well then, the government must be fixed. Otherwise we are just throwing arms in the air.
I admit I can be idealistic, but that's the kind of idealism that would tell a person he can quit using alcohol upon realizing that's not good for his health.
By your logic, that person should give up.
Originally posted by metamagic
And, it appears, neither can I. That one statement above sums up what a lot of people do not like about the US, the fact that Americans believe in one standard for themselves (as expressed above) but another for everyone else. The US has a long and continuing history of interference in other countries and have responded to other countries statements of "We don't see that what's going on in Chile/Genada/Iraq/etc/etc is any of your business, if you don't live here" by sponsoring coups, other forms of interference or outright invasion and war.
Yet the US government attacks the problem by going after the cartels and suppliers in South America and Asia
Originally posted by nixie_nox
The hostility on this site against outside opinions is just flooring.
Thank you for perpetuating the myth of xenophobia.
Guess what, they have access to the same internet, papers, and information we do. They can form an opinion.
And all you have to say is butt out? How about grow up.
Out of all the garbage on this site this takes the cake. This is an INTERNATIONAL SITE. Which means I don't care if they are a poo shoveler in Antartica, their opinion is every bit as valued.
And think what happens in the US doesn't affect them?
Well the last guy dragged their military of Canada, Britain,and Austrailia into an illegal war.
So yea, they have a right to pay attention.
Originally posted by kiwifoot
reply to post by jjkenobi
When Americans start holding up other countries as an example of facist, communist, socialist bad examples, them it get's a bit personal.
Frankly I've had enough of the whole US health care issue, I would vote to ban it from ATS, or restict it to one thread only.
All I know is, IF I'm broke in the UK, I fall over and shatter my spine, and in the subsequent months I develop liver problems, I will be looked after by the NHS for life, have a transplant, and have my house converted and nurses provided, for life, if that's socialist and so terrible. I don't care.
Originally posted by Truth4hire
reply to post by 12m8keall2c
So, why not get rid of the entire corrupted & infested system?
How long will it take for you to admit the entire system is a complete failure?
Capitalism is NOT and was NEVER the answer to true freedom.
I have never seen people poorer than when I visited the U.S.
Absolutely disgusting third world country with the majority living in a plastic bubble chasing a dream that was instilled into their brains by a few who profit from the slave labor of many.
GET A GRIP and do something for a change.
First of all the United States is a Republic founded on a constitution which strictly limits the authority and scope of the federal government. The idea of socialism, which you enjoy is strictly speaking slavery,
Originally posted by asmall89
I agree that Socialism and Communism is thrown around as an insult way too much. In reality they are not bad ideas... just not the ones this country was founded on.
Perfect idealistic societies such as Communism and Anarchy are flawed because of human greed. Which is why they turn into dictatorships and mob rule.
Originally posted by Chovy
I've always wondered why Americans don't do something about their crappy government like you know, overthrow it. Maybe they're too lazy I don't know.
Originally posted by rich23
Of course, most of the people who whine about their money being used to help people never ever complain about the ENORMOUS budget spent on the military. You never hear these people bitching about their money being used to kill people. Funny, that.
Originally posted by Legion2112
And to our neighbors to the north, you're correct in one thing; there is a moronic, selfish, uninformed minortity... MINORITY... screaming louder than the rest of us. .