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Originally posted by constantwonder
hmmm a great deal of my belonings are chinese made and the last time i checked alot of the chinese people live in communistic poverty.
It saddens me that one would think kids in a sweat shop in a communist nation making our goods is a way of life we should adopt
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by ZombieOctopus
I have great insurance if I need surgery I pay $100 for the co-payment; my insurance company foots the rest. I need to see the doctor I pay $20 co-payment. My kids need to go to the E.R I pay $50 for co payment and the Insurance Company covers the rest.
[edit on 17-8-2009 by poedxsoldiervet]
Originally posted by injunfeller
One of the best parts of a socialism is being able to acquire the property of others. So while you're at it, I'm going to have to go ahead and claim I need to have your wife/gf carry a baby for me. Luckily since the socialistic that you want does not recognize her rights to her own body so I can go ahead and legally rape her. Gotta love the system...
It saddens me that there are people out there that support the rape of women like constantwonder...
Originally posted by eradown
I think it is funny you know who our president is. You really should not. Regardless of whither you love Obama or hate him, he won't help you at all. We in America prefer to mind our own bussiness or maybe we really are too big to ignore.
Originally posted by Chronogoblin
Originally posted by eradown
I think it is funny you know who our president is. You really should not. Regardless of whither you love Obama or hate him, he won't help you at all. We in America prefer to mind our own bussiness or maybe we really are too big to ignore.
Right. I'm American, and I can tell you that what you wrote is a load. America 'mind's our own business' like customers at a strip club mind the dancers.
Chrono
Originally posted by rich23
Originally posted by Wimbly
Trust me, we're just as bored of having Canadians and other people who aren't American, telling us what will work and what we want. In fact, I'd say the ribbing your NHC is taking from us, is a direct result of people not minding their own business.
I couldn't care less about how dumb the American health care system is, but when people start talking ignorant trash about our health care system, they'd better be ready for a reality check.
Currently, the US spends twice as much (16% GDP as opposed to 8% GDP) on its health care as the UK, but as other posters have remarked, providers do as much as they can to exclude people from treatment.
And I just love the way every time I raise the point about how the people who complain about their taxes being used to help people never kick up about their taxes being used to kill people... it gets ignored.
[edit on 17-8-2009 by rich23]
Originally posted by Advancedboy
The capitalism works as long it doesn`t touch indispensable items and services. A year ago I read a shocking story in new York Times how drug companies have increased prices for certain drugs by 1000%. Those drugs were used for treating newborn babies with heart failure problems. This is the capitalism at its finest. Those companies simply use the desperation of mothers who would do anything to save their children, so those bastard companies simply pumped up prices.
The same way many companies increase prices endlessly, because the competition is not an issue for sectors where people have no substitute services or products. For example- utilities, insurance,banking,medicine etc.
That is why socialism ir preferrable just for one simple reason- so that those bloody corporations could not become too greedy. No matter how greedy the government is, they simply pale in comparison to private companies. Why rice prices are not exploding? because they can`t ! Increase the price for rice and people will buy corn, potatoes, etc. Why dentist is so expensive? Simple. It can ! You are not going to walk around with a toothache anyway, so they know you will return. Capitalism polarizes wealth at its extreme. Socialism equalizes it. Capitalism is only good for one thing- a continuous competition between manufacturers pushes them to constantly improve their products. USSR fell for that single reason, actually- the lack of competition had bred the whole manufacturing sector at low quality. And once the gates were open for imports, the card house fell.
[edit on 08.15.09 by Advancedboy]
Originally posted by VinceP1974
Wooooo hooo! Spoken like a true demoralized cynic.
Humility in the age of the third Global Islamic Jihad.
Yeah.. we're the ignorant ones. LOL
Originally posted by nickspm
American children have to say The Pledge of Allegiance at school every day
for years. Here is the pledge:
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
The point is we are brainwashed to some degree. And previous American generations have been told from a very young age that America is the greatest place on earth. Well it probably was for many years, but it doesn't feel like that anymore.
When people start saying things like:"You know America doesn't really have the best health care in the world," then many of us go into Manchurian-Candidate mode. It doesn't compute. The reality is very different from the script have memorized and internalized. We aren't the best at everything, at least not anymore.
Originally posted by VinceP1974
Not with all you America haters running around it doesnt.
Originally posted by nickspm
American children have to say The Pledge of Allegiance at school every day
for years. Here is the pledge:
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
The point is we are brainwashed to some degree. And previous American generations have been told from a very young age that America is the greatest place on earth. Well it probably was for many years, but it doesn't feel like that anymore.
When people start saying things like:"You know America doesn't really have the best health care in the world," then many of us go into Manchurian-Candidate mode. It doesn't compute. The reality is very different from the script have memorized and internalized. We aren't the best at everything, at least not anymore.
Originally posted by RoboKy
I've been lurking among the many healthcare debate threads here for some time, trying to get a fix on where I stand in the issue. I've done a little research of my own as well, and frankly...I'm stumped. I've read fairly convincing evidence from both sides of the debate and it's forced me to take to the fence. On one hand, the bureaucracy that has plagued other government-run health care systems(my family has had personal experience with the BS that comes with the VA) leaves me skeptical that the public option has any hope of functioning properly, but on the other hand the current health care paradigm we have going now is pretty deplorable. So I guess it comes down to the fact that I believe that this country's health care system needs a serious overhaul, but that this bill isnt what we need and as time goes on, it seems to become even more hollow(what with the public option seemingly on it's last legs). But I still feel that some change, ANY change is better then no attempt at all.
So I'm going to continue to watch from this fence post until something really strong comes along and pushes me over.