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Originally posted by silversurfer6161
Apparently he got all the information from a family elder,who himself got it from an ET,so its all verbally passed on.I read the papers and I can't fathom how anyone could memorize such an amount of very specific information.Also,the story seems to be assembled using all the "usual suspects"of theories you can find worldwide and here on ATS.
I wish it would be true,though!
Originally posted by kshaund
reply to post by bloodline
Clarification - I don't believe I ever referred to you or anyone as a disinfo agent -
Originally posted by kshaund
reply to post by bloodline
Yes, I can contact Robert. So can you. His email address is on his website.
Excuse me, but I have a lot more data than merely Mr. Morning Sky's word. Laugh away. I know I have a good set of data.
Originally posted by bloodline
Originally posted by kshaund
reply to post by bloodline
Yes, I can contact Robert. So can you. His email address is on his website.
I have already emailed him. You seem to know him so maybe you could do the same.
We'll see where this goes.
Originally posted by kshaund
Originally posted by bloodline
Originally posted by kshaund
reply to post by bloodline
Yes, I can contact Robert. So can you. His email address is on his website.
I have already emailed him. You seem to know him so maybe you could do the same.
We'll see where this goes.
It's good you emailed him as you're the one with the burning question. I would not email him on someone elses behalf to ask him anything - it's best for people to ask themselves.
Originally posted by kshaund
Hey Ameratsu ! Kudos for going out on a limb
For the record - Yes, I believe the Terra Papers are as close to our real origins as we can get - It sounds like from your other posts that you had some email reply from Robert - I'm so grateful he has agreed to become more or less public and bring out new writings -
I just happened to see this passing through - other than a very few interesting threads I keep up on I'm not here much anymore - Right on for getting your book together - I wish you all the abundance life can bring!
Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
You have claimed these "Sumerian tablets" somehow corroborate the Terra Papers. Yet when asked to produce these stories, legends, history or what-have-you, you instead offer equivocation.
It is becoming apparent that you are just using the term "Sumerian" as a new-age buzzword; you have no idea what you are talking about.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Please quote my ad homs, please. To my knowledge, I never called anyone anything. At worst, I might have said, "In my opinion, ..." Which is not an ad hominem. If I said, "You are a ..." Now THAT is an ad hom.
Quoting you, again...
Originally posted by Amaterasu
What is your investment in this, dear. It seems awfully important for you to debunk by way of obfuscation and ridicule.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
So what's your point and why is this so important to you?
Originally posted by Amaterasu
And, in fact, this whole issue has you dancing to discredit me. I want to know what's so important... Does the thought of the Papers being true scare you THAT much? Or are there other, more...spooky reasons that you are so invested in this? I just can't tell.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Until you explain your vested interest in this - I'm pretty much done addressing your words, which tend to twist and misinterpret.
Why is it so important to you to "disprove" The Terra Papers?
Each of those is an ad hominem attack...
Originally posted by Amaterasu
An ad hominem argument...consists of replying to an argument or factual claim by attacking or appealing to a characteristic or belief of the source making the argument or claim, rather than by addressing the substance of the argument or producing evidence against the claim.
And more specifically, an appeal-to-motive fallacy...
Appeal to motive is a pattern of argument which consists in challenging a thesis by calling into question the motives of its proposer. It can be considered as a special case of the ad hominem circumstantial argument. As such, this type of argument may be a logical fallacy.
Further...
The process of proving or disproving the claim is thereby subverted, and the argumentum ad hominem works to change the subject.
Which is exactly what you were doing by questioning my motives, insinuating I had a "spooky reason" for discussing this topic and questioning my screen-name.
Do not discuss me; discuss the topic.
Originally posted by jouseroni
The terra papers are interesting but imo this guy is a complete fraud. I'm one of these people that think they kinda stole a lot of things from star wars and other goofy sci fi and wrote these papers. There is no definitive proof WHATSOEVER that i can find that the papers were around before the 90s or so except for some people who have talked to someone who knew Robert back in the 70s, thats not proof at all to me though considering I know none of you people.
Originally posted by atlasastro
Originally posted by Amaterasu
As I have said, Star Wars came AFTER the Papers were written, and Joseph Campbell spent a lot of time with the Hopi, and was George Lucas's friend and mentor.
So instead of thinking it is somehow a ripoff, think that Star Wars borrowed from the Hopi stories of an ET giving the history of the Earth.
Ama, This is just not true.
Morningsky claims he wrote the Terra papers and presented them to a college professor as a Thesis in 69.
They were not made public until the 90's. This is the fact of the matter.
There is no record whatsoever of the papers until the 90's. He claims the Thesis was rejected. As if he did present a work as Thesis, it is retained by the institution and placed in the Library for public access. Again this did not happen.
The Papers were made Public in the 90's. You know this yet your are misleading people into believing that they originated before that.
The papers came to the public after Star Wars. How could George Lucas rip them off if they were not made public. Star wars and American Graffitti, both made by Lucas, were part of a Two movie deal made in 1971. Morningskys 69' thesis at Southwest University really made it to Lucas? Come On.
Morningsky himself has said he only brought it out after making his "one Year' promise.
Edit to Add, Lucas said later Star Wars was a rewrite of the Original 1971 script and he basically ripped of Kurosawa' epic The Hidden Fortress.en.wikipedia.org...
This movie was made in 1958.
Originally posted by atlasastro
Originally posted by Amaterasu
As I have said, Star Wars came AFTER the Papers were written, and Joseph Campbell spent a lot of time with the Hopi, and was George Lucas's friend and mentor.
Ama,
Your are making things Up.
Joseph Campbell was not Lucas' Mentor. Lucas Considered him a mentor thrugh his works.
Originally posted by silversurfer6161
Apparently he got all the information from a family elder,who himself got it from an ET,so its all verbally passed on.I read the papers and I can't fathom how anyone could memorize such an amount of very specific information.Also,the story seems to be assembled using all the "usual suspects"of theories you can find worldwide and here on ATS.
I wish it would be true,though!
Originally posted by Kaifan
reply to post by Amaterasu
Excuse me, but I have a lot more data than merely Mr. Morning Sky's word. Laugh away. I know I have a good set of data.
I would love to see that data.
I'm not really into the Terra Papers, i didn't finish reading them and i guess i should have, but maybe later.
But i think if you have any info that can help in determining the validity of this book, it should be released for anyone to see and examine, or is there something that prevents you from releasing this info?
Kai
Originally posted by bloodline
Originally posted by kshaund
Originally posted by bloodline
Originally posted by kshaund
reply to post by bloodline
Yes, I can contact Robert. So can you. His email address is on his website.
I have already emailed him. You seem to know him so maybe you could do the same.
We'll see where this goes.
It's good you emailed him as you're the one with the burning question. I would not email him on someone elses behalf to ask him anything - it's best for people to ask themselves.
Ok. However, if I don't hear from him with direct answers and you and amaterasu do nothing to provide verification of Morning Sky or his Papers then we the folks who look objectively at the UFO field on ATS will continue to take these papers as not truthful. If you want us to believe in them like you do. The burden of proof is on you.
You should be ok with our judgement.
This is how the game works here.