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Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
Originally posted by Amaterasu
I have had a great number of discussions from one who was (is) a friend of his back in 1970. She and I began our discourse shortly after I learned of the Papers. She was aware of them in 1970.
Yes, in an effort to spread the information they were released as a booklet later in his efforts to inform us all. But the original work was from 1968 or 69.
What you have is an unsubstantiated claim. Fact, there is no evidence outside of these claims, that the Terra Papers were around before the 1990s.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by superdebz
I started reading it with an open mind
but then the whole "Deathplanet" where the picture and descriptions is suspicsius like star wars "deathstar" Yeah i was kinda like meh
Check your timelines.
Don't you think maybe Star Wars took it from the Terra Papers?
Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by Amaterasu
The claims that the Terra Papers came before Star Wars of Zecharia Sitchin is only your word. That may be fine and dandy to some people, but it is not a fact. Proof is needed to show when these papers came out, and so far there has not been any proof to show when they actually came out. Can Mr Morning Sky produce the name of the professor he turned the papers in to?
Also, I stick by with the fact the papers them selves are very crude and too juvenile to even be considered for a college term paper (or a thesis). I have read many books, both fiction and non-fiction, and The Terra Papers are not very professionally written.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Fact: There is no evidence that you'll accept that the Terra Papers were around before the 1990s.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
The Tablets are more history, accounting, and reporting, than myth. And they are a far cry from what bits and pieces were translated before.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
You also did not answer which Sumerian myths the Terra Papers supposedly mirror.
I can't answer that for the poster that posted that. Perhaps you should ask them.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
The Tablets are more history, accounting, and reporting, than myth. And they are a far cry from what bits and pieces were translated before.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Well, you are welcome to conclude what you wish, but by my reconning, and my gut as well, they are the truth. They accord with the Summerian Tablets, which were just beginning to be translated when the Papers were written.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
If you read what I have written, it will become fully apparent that this was educated speculation from the beginning.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
These two were either given permission by a council of Elders, or were sharing something with a friend.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
What is your investment in this, dear. It seems awfully important for you to debunk by way of obfuscation and ridicule.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
So what's your point and why is this so important to you?
Originally posted by Amaterasu
And, in fact, this whole issue has you dancing to discredit me. I want to know what's so important... Does the thought of the Papers being true scare you THAT much? Or are there other, more...spooky reasons that you are so invested in this? I just can't tell.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
What I am wondering is who of you believe they are true, and who believe they are fiction.
Also, I would like to know any reasons you may have for your views.
Originally posted by Topsy_Cret
Amaterasu, thanks for pointing out the links to your glossary.... I did not see that before. I had reviewed it and that will clear a lot up. I try to spread the knowledge of the books to people whom are interested in the unknown or with an open mind. Like I stated the names of the " People " are confusing to me but the glossary you created will help me explain to others.
I still think this is a great book.... or books. I never knew anyone whom had knowledge of Robert or happen to be his close friend so I cant 100% believe it. However like I stated earlier it makes alot of our worlds history make sence. Either way I am glad I read it incase alien do contact humans ( publicly ) I will have some knownledge.
Once again Great post and I am interested in what other think about the books, if they believe in the books or not.
Originally posted by Topsy_Cret
I agree with you... And I have not been promoting this as your book. Just the glossary you provided the link for ( giving you credit for posting ) . I promote the Terra papers to anyone with an open mind.
Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by DoomsdayRex
Until you explain your vested interest in this - I'm pretty much done addressing your words, which tend to twist and misinterpret.
Why is it so important to you to "disprove" The Terra Papers?
(Your moniker may be a clue...?)
Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
Originally posted by Amaterasu
reply to post by DoomsdayRex
Until you explain your vested interest in this - I'm pretty much done addressing your words, which tend to twist and misinterpret.
Why is it so important to you to "disprove" The Terra Papers?
(Your moniker may be a clue...?)
I have no "vested interest" outside of the truth; you asked for opinions and you got mine. Your behavior towards any skepticism is very telling, as you have attempted to cast others as "disinformation agents" as well. You need to understand you are in a discussion forum, one where you asked for opposing opinions.
The questions I asked were simple, particular in regard to the "Sumerian Tablets." Yet you cannot provide even the most simple request for proof, instead turning to ad hominem attacks and appeal to motives.
So I will ask again; produce these Sumerian Tablets you claim corroborate the Terra Papers. It should be a very simple matter. Answer the question, do not resort to ad hominem attacks and appeals to motive.
Originally posted by jimminycricket
I watched some of the videos in the past, and while interesting, I just couldn't buy into it, and there was just something odd about the man presenting the ideas, he seemed a bit too much like a dodgy salesman mixed with a fraudulent guru.
Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by Amaterasu
I have read the Terra Papers, and conclude they are an act of fiction. The author steals from a variety of sources, including Star Wars (the Death Star), Battlestar Galactica, Zecharia Sitchin and others. Many who support them claim author Robert Morning Sky wrote them before those 1970s shows and books, but they have yet to prove it as Mr Morning Sky did not release the papers until the early 1990s. He claims they were for a university term paper, but they are written on a sixth grade level, which would not be very acceptable to any college professor.
It does seem like Mr Morning Sky was into all the New Age shows and pop culture of the 1970s when he decided to write the papers and call them real.
If they are real, where is the body of the alien who lived among his people? Where is the other proof of the alien encounter?
The good news is that the papers are a short novella so they do not take much time to read. The bad news is that it is an hour I will never get back.
Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by Amaterasu
The claims that the Terra Papers came before Star Wars of Zecharia Sitchin is only your word. That may be fine and dandy to some people, but it is not a fact. Proof is needed to show when these papers came out, and so far there has not been any proof to show when they actually came out. Can Mr Morning Sky produce the name of the professor he turned the papers in to?
Also, I stick by with the fact the papers them selves are very crude and too juvenile to even be considered for a college term paper (or a thesis). I have read many books, both fiction and non-fiction, and The Terra Papers are not very professionally written.
Originally posted by kerazeesicko
Robert Morning sky is a fraud. The native community where he is supposedly from has never heard of him/grandfather or this supposed legend. Also the all Native people from America and Canada know he is not a native american/canadian. So where is he from.
www.newagefraud.org...
Read the posts on the website from educated indian + actual hopi legends
www.indianlegend.com/hopi/hopi_index.htm.
It is funny that there are people out there who believe his star wars ripoff of a fable.
[edit on 4-6-2009 by kerazeesicko]
Originally posted by Amaterasu
Although I know The Terra Papers have been discussed here, it's been a while since they were introduced here and many have had the chance to read them.
What I am wondering is who of you believe they are true, and who believe they are fiction.
Also, I would like to know any reasons you may have for your views.
In case you are not familiar with the Papers, here are a few links:
Terra Papers history: www.abovetopsecret.com...
Terra Papers glossary: www.abovetopsecret.com...
The Papers themselves: www.freedomdomain.com...
Feel free to chime in when you're done reading if you're just now reading the Papers for the first time.