Muslim dentist 'refused to treat female patients unless they wore Islamic dress'

Originally posted by DohBama

i think the solution to this dilemma is to have hijabs for patients who come for treatment to wear.

That sounds fine to me. He can have a private practice where he gets no government money and he can have that stupid requirement all day every day. Good solution

tempting men with physical charms is a great sin (the womans sin) in islam.

Glad I'm in the US. I like womens physical charms

you dont have to agree with it, but thats the way it is.

That might be the way it is in some countries but not all. In the UK and US, we love women and their "charms" and aren't uptight, anal little nazi's

Originally posted by jfj123

Your posts reveal you to be a muslim extremist.

Carry on pretending islam is more then it is

Not for your or islam.

Keep in mind as muslim numbers grow, non muslim numbers will grow as well.

Well of course there would be no danger and the US is getting tired of political correctness as I'm sure is the UK. The whole political correctness thing will run it's course.

It's obvious that your beliefs are extremist. Keep in mind that you're not frightening anyone here. I personally find your veiled threats of impending doom for us "infidels" to be amusing. I'm more worried about paying my electrical bill late then people like you. Your ideas are very archaic and frankly will not fit into society in the future. Your harsh, myopic ideals will be swept away on the wind

i am not a muslim.

islam is exactly what it says it is, in its own words and actions. thats not pretending.

muslims grow in numbers faster than infidels. they have numerous wives, are not permitted to leave the faith and you should know it is considered one of the fastest growing religions right now.

the u.s. tired of p.c.?

are you aware of who is in power? elected by the people?

speaking of paying your electric bill, i bet you didnt believe BO when he stated that energy rates will skyrocket under his administraion, either?

heads in the sand... yes, thats best, innit?

Originally posted by jfj123

That might be the way it is in some countries but not all. In the UK and US, we love women and their "charms" and aren't uptight, anal little nazi's

yes. for now.

you are apparently unaware that islam is spreading too, and altering western countries.

and unaware of what that means.

you're the best sort of infidel.

er, i mean non-believer.

Originally posted by DohBama
Originally posted by jfj123

i am not a muslim.

Of course you are. Either that or you're in charge of their PR department.

islam is exactly what it says it is, in its own words and actions. thats not pretending.

It's only important to you because that is what you believe. Other religions are important to other people because that is what they believe.

muslims grow in numbers faster than infidels.

Could you please post figures that show this including birth rates of muslims -vs- non-muslims throughout the world compiling data by the decade and year? You seem to know all this stuff so it shouldn't be a big deal to post the info. Thanks.

the u.s. tired of p.c.?

Yes we're getting tired of it. It's not going away over night but people are obviously getting tired of it.

are you aware of who is in power?

Yes. And?

elected by the people?

We voted for the best available candidate. Are you suggesting we voted for him because he's black?

speaking of paying your electric bill, i bet you didnt believe BO when he stated that energy rates will skyrocket under his administraion, either?

When you post items like this, it would be helpful if you actually backed them up with a source.

You try and try to inflame yet all you do is amuse

Originally posted by DohBama
Originally posted by jfj123

That might be the way it is in some countries but not all. In the UK and US, we love women and their "charms" and aren't uptight, anal little nazi's

yes. for now.

Keep dreaming of your islamic wonderland. Not going to happen. If you think it might, take a trip anywhere down south in the US and ask what they think

you are apparently unaware that islam is spreading too, and altering western countries.

So's the swine flu.

and unaware of what that means.

you're the best sort of infidel.

er, i mean non-believer.

Again, very thinly veiled attempts at bating me
Try a little harder next time, you're only cheapening yourself

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this is getting very off topic.

Originally posted by jfj123
Of course you are. Either that or you're in charge of their PR department.

i am the last person islam would want to represent the faith. how have i presented islam favorably or unfavorably? i merely post what is known.

It's only important to you because that is what you believe. Other religions are important to other people because that is what they believe.

i never claimed it was important to me.

Could you please post figures that show this including birth rates of muslims -vs- non-muslims throughout the world compiling data by the decade and year? You seem to know all this stuff so it shouldn't be a big deal to post the info. Thanks.

have you heard of google?

Yes we're getting tired of it. It's not going away over night but people are obviously getting tired of it.

wrong, the american people cannot get enough of political correctness. the liberal agenda is in full effect here. another thing you are unaware of.

We voted for the best available candidate. Are you suggesting we voted for him because he's black?

so, you voted for him for his long list of acheivements? or was it his vast leadership experience? or was it because the msm made you feel 'smart' and 'kewl' for supporting the empty suit, marxist fraud BO?

or what? do tell...

"speaking of paying your electric bill, i bet you didnt believe BO when he stated that energy rates will skyrocket under his administraion, either? "

When you post items like this, it would be helpful if you actually backed them up with a source.

You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know ” Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.

You try and try to inflame yet all you do is amuse

does the thread appear inflamed to you? thats the hundredth time you mentioned it.

all i see is your failure to make a single point, or express a coherent thought.

you use your ignorance like a weapon, as if your failure to comprehend makes a point somehow.

It's not just this story but many others too that society keeps bending backwards over and if you go to their countries and have a Bible in your hand in the streets or kiss your girlfriend in public on some Middle East holiday, expect the intollerance police to follow deportation and prison and yet we allow this hypocracy of double standards to manifest. Is the West in way supporting intollerant ideologies for a greater agenda to sow in a totallitarian environment slowly?


www.timesonline.co.uk...

MUSLIM supermarket checkout staff who refuse to sell alcohol are being allowed to opt out of handling customers’ bottles and cans of drink.

Islamic workers at Sainsbury’s who object to alcohol on religious grounds are told to raise their hands when encountering any drink at their till so that a colleague can temporarily take their place or scan items for them.

Other staff have refused to work stacking shelves with wine, beer and spirits and have been found alternative roles in the company.

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You sir have a serious problem, in several posts you more or less have said anyone who is not muslim is an infidel in another post you state im not muslim just stating what one perseveres is islam.

I do feel you have lost your path, personally i do not care what your race , creed or color is, my only concern is that you come across in a manner thats is very familiar to me.

You may have grand ides of islam and what ever obama or who ever you feel represents your spiritual beliefs, the fact is, check out the ME and then get back to me.

Islamic nations can barely speak to each other without creating some suicide bomber or a quick conflict war. Sorry but your obviously from another world. But hey, there are other religions out there, take your pick they all have a common goal.

Originally posted by tristar
reply to post by DohBama

 

You sir have a serious problem, in several posts you more or less have said anyone who is not muslim is an infidel in another post you state im not muslim just stating what one perseveres is islam.

anyone who is not a muslim is an infidel. like me. these are islams words, not mine. if you do not submit, you are an infidel. clear enough?

I do feel you have lost your path, personally i do not care what your race , creed or color is, my only concern is that you come across in a manner thats is very familiar to me.

only due to your inability to keep up and the constant pull of off topic tendencies here.

You may have grand ides of islam and what ever obama or who ever you feel represents your spiritual beliefs, the fact is, check out the ME and then get back to me.

i have not posted my personal opinion of islam, your assumptions mislead you. i only post what is known about islam. how we infidels feel about it is of no consequence, islam is what it is, and gives insight to the reason the dentist in question is in the news.

westerners can pretend it is something else, at their own peril.

Islamic nations can barely speak to each other without creating some suicide bomber or a quick conflict war. Sorry but your obviously from another world. But hey, there are other religions out there, take your pick they all have a common goal.

another uninformed assumption.

Originally posted by DohBama

Could you please post figures that show this including birth rates of muslims -vs- non-muslims throughout the world compiling data by the decade and year? You seem to know all this stuff so it shouldn't be a big deal to post the info. Thanks.

have you heard of google?

Thanks for posting that info. I clicked on your link and this is what I found

Encyclopedia of Islam Myths:
Islam is not the fastest growing religion in the world. Islam is the dominant religion of the third world where the birth rate is high. In these same Countries, Muslims are killed if they convert to Christianity.

The Islamic religion has a long history of myth making. The claim they are the fastest growing religion in the world is pure myth. We have collected the latest statistics from David A. Barrett’s huge two volume, "World Christian Encyclopedia", the 2001 AD edition. In case you haven’t heard of this work, it is the world standard for religious statistics.

Muslim's claim that their growth rate is 235 percent and 47 percent for Christianity. This statistic came from the Readers Digest Almanac and Yearbook 1983, and represents 235 percent increase over 50 years. Muslims always leave off the 50 year fact to make it appear they are going 235% every year.

www.bible.ca...

I just clicked on your link and found this so there you go.

Yes we're getting tired of it. It's not going away over night but people are obviously getting tired of it.

wrong, the american people cannot get enough of political correctness. the liberal agenda is in full effect here. another thing you are unaware of.

Actually, I talk to a lot of people in the business I'm in and almost universally they are all tired of the political correctness. At least in my state.

We voted for the best available candidate. Are you suggesting we voted for him because he's black?

so, you voted for him for his long list of acheivements?

What did I just say? Oh yeah, we voted for the best AVAILABLE candidate. If Ron Paul would have stayed in the race, I would have voted for him or Dennis Kucinich.

or was it his vast leadership experience? or was it because the msm made you feel 'smart' and 'kewl' for supporting the empty suit, marxist fraud BO?

He
was
the
best
available
candidate
Got it?

or what? do tell...

Just did

"speaking of paying your electric bill, i bet you didnt believe BO when he stated that energy rates will skyrocket under his administraion, either? "

When you post items like this, it would be helpful if you actually backed them up with a source.

You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know ” Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.


and now to put it into context

if you can’t persuade the American people that yes, there is going to be some increase in electricity rates on the front end, but that over the long term, because of combinations of more efficient energy usage, changing lightbulbs and more efficient appliance, but also technology improving how we can produce clean energy, the economy would benefit.

Notice where he said SOME INCREASE ?

You try and try to inflame yet all you do is amuse

does the thread appear inflamed to you? thats the hundredth time you mentioned it.

You seem to be taking personal digs at me for disagreeing with you...thus attempting to inflame. Do I really need to explain to you what you are doing? You'd think you'd know what you're doing without me explaining it

all i see is your failure to make a single point, or express a coherent thought.

Try reading them. If you need help with some of the bigger words, let me know

you use your ignorance like a weapon, as if your failure to comprehend makes a point somehow.

I was just thinking the same of you except instead of just a weapon, I was thinking Battering Ram

Do you honestly think that your little barbs are going to rattle me? Well you gave it your best shot and that's all we can ask right ?

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you might appreciate that the source you cite about islamic growth might not be the most impartial source of information about the subject?

no?

you are in the 'politically correct' business? what industry is that again?

what made BO the best candidate, again?

tell us about his achievements.

and his leadership experience.

or any reason at all, go on.

dont let me stop you.

"You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, uh, you know ” Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. "

yes, i suppose you could consider 'skyrocket' as 'some increase'...

" whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, uh, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers"

-BO

i do disagree with you. for one instance, you claim i am a muslim, should i simply accept this?

you are wrong about that and too many other things to list here.

but keep spinning those wheels and dragging the forum off topic.

i suppose someone has to.

Originally posted by DohBama
reply to post by jfj123

 

you might appreciate that the source you cite about islamic growth might not be the most impartial source of information about the subject?

Hey I just clicked on YOUR link. It's not my fault you didn't do you homework now is it? YOU posted that link for me to click on. I assume you actually looked at the link you posted. Why would you post something you don't agree with ???

you are in the 'politically correct' business? what industry is that again?

I own construction, remodeling, maintenance/repair and landscaping businesses. Needless to say, I talk to a lot of people.

what made BO the best candidate, again?

He was the least of the worst.
We had him or John McCain. Do I really need to go into details?

tell us about his achievements.

and his leadership experience.

or any reason at all, go on.

dont let me stop you.

Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was the first African American president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and also taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.

Obama served three terms in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004.

Obama ran for United States Senate in 2004. His victory from a crowded field in the March 2004 Democratic primary raised his visibility, and his prime-time televised keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004 made him a rising star nationally in the Democratic Party. He was elected to the U.S. Senate in November 2004 by the largest margin in Illinois history.

State legislator: 1997–2004
Once elected, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[46] He sponsored a law increasing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.[47] In 2001, as co-chairman of the bipartisan Joint Committee on Administrative Rules, Obama supported Republican Governor Ryan's payday loan regulations and predatory mortgage lending regulations aimed at averting home foreclosures.[48]

en.wikipedia.org...:_1996.E2.80.932008

I could go on and on but you can read, right?

i do disagree with you. for one instance, you claim i am a muslim, should i simply accept this?

You're not only explaining muslim/islamic beliefs but you are defending them in an extreme way. Yes this would make me assume you're a muslim extremist.

you are wrong about that and too many other things to list here.

Yeah sure If you say so (wink...wink...) mr.... non- muslim

but keep spinning those wheels and dragging the forum off topic.

i suppose someone has to.

You started it, I'm just responding. I like the way you blame everyone else instead of looking at yourself.

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the link i posted was a general google search, and you couldnt have chosen a more biased search result.

how is "construction, remodeling, maintenance/repair and landscaping businesses" being "in the business" in reference to political correctness?

"He was the least of the worst. "

if you say so...

graduating law school, working as an attourney, being a senator (for about 150 days) helping pass a few bills qualified him?

well, those qualifications can certainly narrow the field down to only about 100 tax fattened senators, and 435 lethargic congressmen, too... how very exclusive.

and that impressed the likes of you, did it?

i am defending the dentist, not defending islam.

his faith in islam is his defense. (try and keep up)

the dentist has the right to adhere to his faith, and not have foreign values forced upon him.

one has only to read your previous posts to see your cluelessness for themselves, in your own words.

yes, i did respond to your off topic rantings, i have a weakness for trolls.

i'll have to work on that.

Originally posted by DohBama
reply to post by jfj123

 

the link i posted was a general google search, and you couldnt have chosen a more biased search result.

It was the second link that popped up for christ sake !!! I guess you should have not been lazy and just posted the information directly. You could easily post the "right" information but instead you've chosen to complain about your own link AGAIN.

how is "construction, remodeling, maintenance/repair and landscaping businesses" being "in the business" in reference to political correctness?

I talk to a lot of customers from all walks of life from blue collar people up to multi-millionares, celebs, etc.. and like I said, all those people have almost universally said that the atmosphere of political correctness has gotten out of control.

"He was the least of the worst. "

if you say so...

Just my opinion.

graduating law school, working as an attourney, being a senator (for about 150 days) helping pass a few bills qualified him?

Do I really need to keep posting his qualifications?
And like I said, he wasn't my candidate of choice but the best AVAILABLE candidate.

well, those qualifications can certainly narrow the field down to only about 100 tax fattened senators, and 435 lethargic congressmen, too... how very exclusive.

and that impressed the likes of you, did it?

Are you smoking crack? Seriously??? I'm wondering because I never said it impressed me at all. You asked for some qualifications so I posted just a few.

i am defending the dentist, not defending islam.

Same thing in this case.

You are worse then an extremist because you claim you're not which makes you a sympathizer. Your posts indicate you admire their horrific traditions which shows how disturbed your mentality really is.

the dentist has the right to adhere to his faith, and not have foreign values forced upon him.

Unless it interferes with someone else's. That's what you're just not getting. He doesn't have MORE of a right to his faith then anyone else. This is aside from the fact that laws in the country don't permit him to accept government money and turn down government recipients. Now he sure didn't have a problem accepting the money, did he? At that point, the money was more important then his faith. Nothing worse then a traitor to one's own beliefs. But he's even worse as he has whored his beliefs for money.

one has only to read your previous posts to see your cluelessness for themselves, in your own words.

yes, i did respond to your off topic rantings, i have a weakness for trolls.

i'll have to work on that.

More sad attempts at bating me. Don't you feel cheap by not even trying a little harder??? I know I would

And if you'll notice, I only responded to your posts which were already off topic.

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you chose the link, that was not my choice, now you are a liar.

a very unscientific sampling, and purely anecdotal, hardly a reliable gage on the embrace of political correctness in the states.

obviously. (to most)

a better gage would be 'who is in power?'

that would be the politically correct party of unhinged liberal democrats, elected by the majority.

obviously. (to most)

impressed you enough to vote for him, and the 'accomplishments' you cite are nothing unusual or special in any way. how many law students graduate every year? hmmm... how many senators are there? indeed. impressive. not.

and for someone who cannot differentiate between the obvious; (at least you're consistent) that the defense of a person is not the defense of a religion.

i am the last person who could be confused with an islamic sympathiser.

again, that inability to differentiate between the obvious does not serve you well...

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leave it to me to get us back on topic:

what if the dentist was jewish and refused to treat someone who had swastika tattoos, an ss symbol on a t-shirt and made it clear they were doing a great favour by letting a jew fix their teeth?

would that dentist be justified in refusing to serve that patient?

Heres the bottom line in the WEST, women, who represent a 52% majority citizen by age 19, and this gap widens as they grow older, are not going to accept any form of discrimination based on gender, for any reason, belief, religion, ethnic origin of any other citizen or person legally residing withing their country. Not for any reason, especially if politicians wish to sell them out, their largest population of employers, in an attempt to be politically correct, or for the sake of being multicultural, or whatever. Not for any reason whatsoever.
Savey?



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Originally posted by mystiq
Heres the bottom line in the WEST, women, who represent a 51% majority citizen by age 19, and this gap widens as they grow older, are not going to accept any form of discrimination based on gender, for any reason, belief, religion, ethnic origin of any other citizen or person legally residing withing their country. Not for any reason, especially if politicians wish to sell them out, their largest population of employers, in an attempt to be politically correct, or for the sake of being multicultural, or whatever. Not for any reason whatsoever.
Savey?

that will change, here is what that change looks like in progress:

British Hospital Bans Paintings of Churches...


(UK) Mosque Flouts Local Building Council...


UK Hate Preacher Plans Jihad Summer School for Teens...

(UK) Muslim Dentist Refuses to Treat 'UnIslamic' Females...


(UK) Immigrant on Trial for 'Depraved' Stabbing of Sisters...


(UK) 'Mr. Omar' and 'Mr. Sheikh' Rape a 17-Year-Old Girl...


(UK) Muslim Drags 15-Year-Old to Mosque and Rapes Her...

Prospective UK Councillor Told She is 'Too White, Too Jewish' for Muslim Tastes...

running out of room!

reply to post by DohBama


I understand where your coming from, when you say islam has an agenda. Yes its true and some muslims are not shy of telling people either.


But the law is the law, a right is a right,

and religion? well thats just a personal choice now isnt it?

Your links are all news stories and news is not always 100% correct is it, havent you heard of propaganda?

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Originally posted by DohBama
reply to post by jfj123

 

you chose the link, that was not my choice, now you are a liar.

I FOLLOWED YOUR LINK. Did I post it? NO. You did. It's not my fault you screwed up and disproved your own argument

a very unscientific sampling, and purely anecdotal, hardly a reliable gage on the embrace of political correctness in the states.

Do you have a more scientific sampling? If so post it. Don't give me a link, actually do some work and post the info HERE.

impressed you enough to vote for him, and the 'accomplishments' you cite are nothing unusual or special in any way.

Never said they were. I just thought that McCain was a worse choice based on his views. How many times do I actually need to tell you this ???

how many law students graduate every year? hmmm... how many senators are there? indeed. impressive. not.

1. Not his only qualifications.
2. I, at not point, anywhere, in this or any other thread, EVER, have stated I was impressed with obama.

and for someone who cannot differentiate between the obvious;

Sorry but I can't make you smart

i am the last person who could be confused with an islamic sympathiser.

Try reading your own posts. You are one.

leave it to me to get us back on topic:

Based on your previous posts, I wouldn't leave it to you to cook me a cheeseburger.

what if the dentist was jewish and refused to treat someone who had swastika tattoos, an ss symbol on a t-shirt and made it clear they were doing a great favour by letting a jew fix their teeth?

If the jewish dentist was getting paid by the government to participate in their universal health care system, he would be obligated to treat whomever came in or drop out of the program. I don't care if he was jewish, mexican, muslim, or a klingon.

would that dentist be justified in refusing to serve that patient?

No. One's religious, ethnic, etc.. beliefs have nothing to do with filling a cavity.

You're obviously trying to set up the question to make me seem racist against muslims but I honestly don't care what religious faith, etc... the person is. Follow the rules the program has set up or get out of the program.

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I assure you, its not going to change. NO MATTER WHAT! For any reason. NOT EVEN MARTIAL LAW OR NWO. Not for the Bidlenburgers, the Rothchild's, the Rockefellers, the Queens Family, the middle east, or an alien invasion.
Savey?