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Muslim dentist 'refused to treat female patients unless they wore Islamic dress'

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posted on May, 11 2009 @ 01:57 AM
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I don't know anything about the health care system in the UK, but if this
dentist was part of a governmental agency then he should be fired. If he
is in private practice, then, at best, this is only an interesting news
story.




posted on May, 11 2009 @ 04:09 AM
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Originally posted by rival


I don't know anything about the health care system in the UK, but if this
dentist was part of a governmental agency then he should be fired. If he
is in private practice, then, at best, this is only an interesting news
story.




Just to help you out here, this is what was requested from the dentist for the lady to wear.

fc04.deviantart.com...

and a this is just a brief part of the link

'He even offered to provide one for me to use, but I didn't want to wear it. I shouldn't have to wear it to get treatment.

'I had great pain in my tooth at the time, but I wasn't going to stand for that so we left.'

Another patient and her family had to leave the clinic in June 2007 because she would not wear the religious headdress after spending a year looking for a dentist in the area, the hearing was told.

The woman's husband, known as Mr C, was also called into a private room at the surgery where Butt asked him to impose a dress code on his wife.




If found guilty he faces being removed the dental register.

In September 2007 Butt was formally reprimanded by the GDC for similar behaviour and found guilty of serious professional misconduct.

The hearing, being held in London, continues.


Not sure if anyone is married here, but i kid you not, if anyone i mean anyone was to impose anything upon my wife, well lets say he just found himself a world of trouble with every resource i have at my disposal. No single person or persons should be forced to do anything against their will in times of peace and in a ordered society.



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 04:19 AM
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Originally posted by CuriousSkeptic
As stupid as I may think this is, the good dentist owns a private business and can serve who he wants and not who he doesn't. If as a businessman he's stupid enough to turn away potential customers because they don't meet his religious standards, that's his choice. I really don't see a problem with this.


I understand what you are saying, but Muslims demand all sorts of "considerations", when they want something from someone outside their religious circle.

Such as not serving pork at community functions, such as demanding 1 day a week to be set aside for women (muslim) only bathing at public swimming pools. (no men allowed)

They demand the right to circumsize their girls, when regular medico's consider it an abomination, they consider it is their right to have 4 wifes, when polygamy isn't permitted by the existing culture. The list is endless.



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 04:28 AM
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Originally posted by Kailassa
Any dentist that bigoted is probably a crappy dentist anyway.
Any women he refused to treat should count themselves lucky.

In my high school days we had only one local dentist in the remote area I lived in. He terrorised us kids unless we agreed to follow his religion.
- Can't even remember what religion it was now, 40 years later.

But we all converted for the duration of our appointments, or we got the insides of our cheeks slashed open.


yeah exactly, I wonder if he uses the pain killer for the infidel? Come to think of it he probably wouldn't use it for women anyway.



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 04:31 AM
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Originally posted by the golden ray


yeah exactly, I wonder if he uses the pain killer for the infidel? Come to think of it he probably wouldn't use it for women anyway.


Infidel is the english word christians used to refer to someone without faith.
Infidel to them means one who does not believe in Jesus etc


Kafir is the word muslims use, which basically means the same thing.

Kafir does not refer to christians, jews etc
They are instead refered as the people of the book.

Kafir only refer to people who do not believe in one god, or athiests.

I have no idea why I'm saying this lol. Sometimes it's good to fully understand these words.

Also here's an interesting fact:

""Kafir" has also come to be regarded as offensive, thus Muslim scholars discourage its usage due to the Quran's command to use kind words. It is even a punishable offense to use this term against a Jew or a Christian, under Islamic law. Some Muslim extremists today however use the term in reference to all non-Muslims."


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posted on May, 11 2009 @ 05:21 AM
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Originally posted by Ridhya
reply to post by Laurauk
 

And why are you replying to me by telling me that?
I've already posted that I know that and dont agree with what hes doing, Ive said it like 3 times already, Im just sick of people saying hes forcing his religion on westerners like he owns the place.

Uh...because he is !


jfj123
how is that insulting you?

Seriously? Look if you can't figure it out, me explaining it won't help.


I called you on being ignorant because you're obviously ignoring what DohBama is saying.

Try reading his posts. He's not EXPLAINING the dentist point of view, he's DEFENDING it. BIG, BIG difference.


He calls us infidels and talks about how Allah justifies...whatever because he is trying to show you how a different point of view goes.

And that would be fine but he's also defending that point of view.


I dont know how much more clear I could be.

Try reading his posts before you try and explain what he "meant".


Read the websites he posts they are very against Islam, like he is, if YOUD read between the lines.

I did "read between the lines". The result is that he's defending the dentist and not just explaining the situation from their perspective.


And ever heard the phrase, 'I dont agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it"? Thats along my lines. Just because you defend someone doesnt mean you agree.


I assume at this point you're acknowledging that he was defending the dentist. He's not defending the dentists opinion but the dentists right to discriminate against people using government funds. This is not defenceable.



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 05:51 AM
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Originally posted by neformore
reply to post by Longy4eva
 


The first two of those are scaremongering hoaxes and are not true

The last one is a quirk in the law/legal loophole that the current British government has said it is actively seeking to address, and that the conservatives have said they will remove should they come to power.

Hope that clears it up. I'm heartily sick of seeing what is basically racist propaganda and untruths appearing in this thread.

[edit on 11/5/09 by neformore]


Thank you very much for straightening that out !
Could you also expand on what's really going on in the UK with regards to these types of situations?
It seems by some of the scaremongering posts, the UK is about to be over run by muslims who are hell bent on destroying our way of life.



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by jfj123
Could you also expand on what's really going on in the UK with regards to these types of situations?
It seems by some of the scaremongering posts, the UK is about to be over run by muslims who are hell bent on destroying our way of life.


Well its not. The muslim population of the UK runs at about 3% of 65 million.

As with other ethnic and religious groups, such as the jewish, hindu and sikn religions, and the eastern european, afro-carribean and chinese communities the muslim community likes to stick together, and seeks out its own niche within the overall mix of things.

The scaremongerers and bigots will try and convince you that the muslim population is pushy and arrogant and extremist. From my experience, I can tell you its simply not the case - the majority of muslim people in the UK are happy to integrate, proud of their faith but do not force it on others.

A very small minority of it might be an exception to that, and as is the case with everything from soccer hooligans to binge drinkers the British tabloid media will make such things appear to be the end of the world, when they plainly are not.

This kind of story is wonderful fodder for bigots, who see it as justification to stick it to the muslim faith any which way they can (you only have to read the sentiment and stories linked off this thread to see that). It allows for hyperbole and a snowball effect of misinformation, and provides a vent for anyone with a chip on their shoulder or those who may have had a bad experience, but that does not cover all of 65 million people, and it most certainly isn't the norm.

The simple truth is that the guy who did this acted on his own, was very much out of line, and will be punished for his actions one way or the other, either by losing his job, being prosecuted for discrimination or both. He has already openly been publicly discredited by the article.

Simple as that. Claiming anything different is like saying that some Americans are murderers, so all of them must be.



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 07:04 AM
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Whilst I agree with what you say don't you also think it is fair to say that Muslims have a say and influence that proportionately far exceeds their numbers?
Whether that is MSM scaremongering or down to Muslims themselves forcing their own interests to the fore at the expense of others is open to debate.



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 07:23 AM
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I'm not a Muslim, but my sympathies are with these people, the Muslims, for the warmongering and hatemongering that is directed at them. Why are the Muslims hated and reviled so much by the controlled media? Because the Muslims refuse to knuckle under to the NWO, and the Fourth Reichers, the Luciferians who own the rest of the world, are determined to destroy them.

Hate-mongering stories such as this one are designed to stir up the people to want to wipe out the Muslims. The propaganda is not working on at least one such goyim serf -- me. If the rest of you want to sit back and watch the Bohemian Grovers, the Skull and Bonesmen, the Freemasonic devil worshippers blow up skyscrapers and then swallow their lies that it was young Muslims with boxcutters flying planes that caused the buildings to turn into dust and rubble and fall at the speed of gravity, killing 3,000 people, you are welcome to your delusions. But I know that 9/11 was an inside job and that Building 7 also fell at the speed of gravity and that no plane hit that building and that the owner Larry Silverstein said on the Discovery Channel that he had the building "pulled."

If anybody ever watched the series online called The Arrivals, a brilliant series put together by a brilliant young Muslim filmmaker named Noreagaa, you'd understand that Muslims are very serious about keeping themselves unspotted from this evil world. They are aware of a very important fact and keep it uppermost in their minds. That fact is that this life is very brief, just a tiny blip on the face of eternity, and that it is not worth sacrificing a human soul for the sins of this world.

This Muslim dentist is willing to treat nonMuslims. All he asks is that people not hop up in the chair wearing tight pants, or skirts exposing their legs, or tight sweaters with cleavage hanging out, etcetera. He is willing to provide what he considers proper clothing for the woman to wear. But no, that's not good enough. He should just refuse to treat any nonMuslims and be done with it.

This shows the total lack of respect that depraved Westerners have toward spiritual people who are trying to guard their souls and whose eyes are fastened on eternity and God, not this evil and wicked world. Those who have succumbed to this world's glitter and lies won't be happy until they drag everybody else down into their delusion and depravity.

Leave the Muslims alone. Would you like to live in Iran and have the United States fighter aircraft floating offshore waiting for the slightest excuse to nuke your country and people away?

These people are righteous and they are the ones whose conscience is clean, not the United States, not Israel, not England, not any Luciferian Fourth Reicher New Age devil worshipping people who think they have the right to blow up the planet and kill innocent families because they don't like the way the women dress or don't approve of somebody's religion.

The Muslims are not aborting their babies.

The Muslims are virgins when they marry, they value family, they love their children.

The Muslims don't orgy, don't go around with a perpetual flame burning between their legs for encounters with strangers in bathrooms.

The Muslims don't read porn, don't go to x-rated movies, don't drool over women dressed in cheap fringes and sequens writhing around on a stage under a black light, women who would scare you half to death if you saw them in the broad daylight under normal lighting.

The Muslims are happy to live in the world of reality, not the world of Madisen Avenue and Disneyland and Hollywood fairy tales where drugs and cheap sex and drunken orgies and torture and mayhem are made to seem like Heaven, and things that are decent and real are made to seem evil.

And I am NOT a Muslim. I am a Christian. I believe the Bible is God's Word, every jot and tittle, and put no stock in the Koran whatever. But I give the Muslims credit for a sincere love of God and for having a conscience which has not been seared away like most everyone else's has.



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posted on May, 11 2009 @ 07:30 AM
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I agree on some points.

But I must say I know quite a few young muslims who are guilty with some of the things you mention, they love looking at women too


And this dentist, I can assure you many muslims will disagree with his behaviour, especially the muslims that he told to do as he says.

The fact is, he should have chosen a different career if this bothered him so much. This is a multicultral society, he must expect all kinds of people to come in, and he must be prepared to serve all of them, if not, he needs to make a career change ASAP.




[edit on 11-5-2009 by _Phoenix_]



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 07:35 AM
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reply to post by Salt of the Earth
 


And who the hell are you or anyone else for that matter to impose your your own repressed morals on anyone else



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by neformore
 


Whilst I agree with what you say don't you also think it is fair to say that Muslims have a say and influence that proportionately far exceeds their numbers?


Nope I do not think so. Except for the fact that any negative thing ONE muslim does easily gets into the spotlight, and any positive thing MANY muslims do, almost never does.

If your a muslim and you want to be famous, all ya gotta do is do something stupid, and your in the spotlight! yay!

Also this news report kind of proves it, I don't see him having muh of a say, except for looking stupid on the news.

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posted on May, 11 2009 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by _Phoenix_
reply to post by Salt of the Earth
 


I agree on some points.

But I must say I know quite a few young muslims who are guilty with some of the things you mention, they love looking at women too


It is normal for men to be aroused by looking at women's flesh. But God's intention was that it would be one's wife, not your neighbor's wife, doing the arousing.


Originally posted by _Phoenix_
And this dentist, I can assure you many muslims will disagree with his behaviour, especially the muslims that he told to do as he says.


Conscience and morality is a personal matter between one man and/or woman and his god. It matters not if the entire world is in disagreement, or what the polls say. This man has a right to practice his religion and his profession as he chooses. He is hurting nobody. All he asks is that women cover themselves in the chair while he is working on their teeth. If this man fears for his soul, does not want to be exposed to temptation, respect him for his spiritual beliefs, rather than mock and castigate and persecute him for them. He is only trying to please his God. If he were demanding that women undress in order to be treated, then people would have reason to criticize. Nobody complains at the allopaths who have women put a piece of paper over their head, sit them down on a table and make them wait shivering in embarassment for 30 minutes in this predicament. Nobody complains that anesthetized patients are left in various poses of undress in the hospitals for anybody to stare at them. But this Muslim dentist who wants to maintain some kind of modesty, people are ready to send him to the torture dungeons.


Originally posted by _Phoenix_
The fact is, he should have chosen a different career if this bothered him so much. This is a multicultral society, he must expect all kinds of people to come in, and he must be prepared to serve all of them, if not, he needs to make a career change ASAP.


He is willing to treat anybody. He has a right to run his office as he chooses. If people can't understand that he is a practicing Muslim in addition to being a dentist, they should go find another dentist.



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Salt of the Earth
 


And who the hell are you or anyone else for that matter to impose your your own repressed morals on anyone else


Excuse me? It makes you angry that a doctor or dentist would want to drape your wife while he works on her mouth or treats her?

But if your wife were to go to a doctor who wanted to strip her, spread-eagle her, sit her on a table shivering in humiliation for a half hour, 45 minutes with a piece of paper and NOTHING ELSE over her head that doesn't even reach her waist -- that would be fine with you?

Or if you sent your son or daughter to the hospital for chemo or whatever and they keep them half naked, let them lay in the bed exposed while unconscious, for anybody to gawk at -- this you would not mind at all, right?

But a doctor who insists on modesty, for his own sake as well as for that of his patients, you think is "imposing repressed morals" on you?

Strange.

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posted on May, 11 2009 @ 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
This Muslim dentist is willing to treat nonMuslims. All he asks is that people not hop up in the chair wearing tight pants, or skirts exposing their legs, or tight sweaters with cleavage hanging out, etcetera. He is willing to provide what he considers proper clothing for the woman to wear. But no, that's not good enough. He should just refuse to treat any nonMuslims and be done with it.


Evidently someone did not read the article. The whole point of the controversy was that he was trying to make them wear a hijab or he would not treat them. That is a discrimination crime that he was committing. In fact even if it had only been over the things that you listed it would still have been a crime.


Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
These people are righteous and they are the ones whose conscience is clean, not the United States, not Israel, not England, not any Luciferian Fourth Reicher New Age devil worshipping people who think they have the right to blow up the planet and kill innocent families because they don't like the way the women dress or don't approve of somebody's religion.


Erm have you ever read a news paper. That is Muslims committing the acts you listed there not Americans, Israelis or English. You have the whole thing backwards.


Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
The Muslims are not aborting their babies.

The Muslims are virgins when they marry, they value family, they love their children.

The Muslims don't orgy, don't go around with a perpetual flame burning between their legs for encounters with strangers in bathrooms.

Oh no oh no oh no of course not. They just allow marital rape and for underage children to be married off. And for multiple marriages. And for the brainwashing of the young and mentally weak to be used as weapons. So yeah they are the great kind ones aren't they.


Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
Leave the Muslims alone. Would you like to live in Iran and have the United States fighter aircraft floating offshore waiting for the slightest excuse to nuke your country and people away?


Slightest excuse??? One you are talking nonsense. Two don't you think that the distrust of Iran might have something to do with a high ranking member of their government stating that as soon as they had nuclear capabilities they were going to attack Israel. BTW nukes are normally delivered by ICBMs and rarely by aircraft now.


Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
Hate-mongering stories such as this one are designed to stir up the people to want to wipe out the Muslims.


Hate-mongering? Stirring people up to wipe out Muslims? Have you ever visited a little place known as Earth. You are now just making things up to suit your own ends.

This isn't meant as a rant against Muslims. I know there will be some nice ones out there (though I have yet to meet one). I just thought this guy needed to be shown how wrong he is.





Originally posted by FMLuder
It was pretty damned obvious you weren't a Brit lol.

OK I am sorry. I have been toying with you and having fun with your head for too long. Its just that... well...

I am British LOL
. Always have been. Always lived in Britain. Sorry I didn't tell you before but it was just far too much fun to see you ranting about how I could not understand the politics of the UK cos you thought I don't live here. LMAO that was just too good.
Well that is my piece for now. Who is next?

-Cauch1

BTW Salt of the Earth. I can continue ripping you if you want. Just post again and I am sure I could have some more fun
.

[edit on 11/5/2009 by Cauch1]



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by Salt of the Earth

He is willing to treat anybody. He has a right to run his office as he chooses. If people can't understand that he is a practicing Muslim in addition to being a dentist, they should go find another dentist.



No he has not, he is NHS funded so has a duty to treat everyone regardless of race or creed!

Would it be ok to only serve white people in my pub?



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
Hate-mongering stories such as this one are designed to stir up the people ...inside job and that Building 7 also fell at the speed of gravity and that no plane hit that building and that the owner Larry Silverstein said on the Discovery Channel that he had the building "pulled."


The founding of the US itself seems to have been motivated by Masons trying to create their own country. I call true on the things you have said here.


Originally posted by Salt of the EarthIf anybody ever watched the series online called The Arrivals, a brilliant series put together by a brilliant young Muslim filmmaker named Noreagaa, you'd understand that Muslims are very serious about keeping themselves unspotted from this evil world. They are aware of a very important fact and keep it uppermost in their minds. That fact is that this life is very brief, just a tiny blip on the face of eternity, and that it is not worth sacrificing a human soul for the sins of this world.


This is the first thing that gets me. If they feel our area of the world is so decadent and corrupt, why come? We don't particularly want them here, and we certianly don't want some ass-backward religious types getting on a moral high-horse and whining about our lives, so why come in the first place? This is not the country for you if you want to live some puritan fundamentalist lifestyle, so don't bother.


Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThis Muslim dentist is willing to treat nonMuslims. All he asks is that people not hop up in the chair wearing tight pants, or skirts exposing their legs, or tight sweaters with cleavage hanging out, etcetera. He is willing to provide what he considers proper clothing for the woman to wear. But no, that's not good enough. He should just refuse to treat any nonMuslims and be done with it.


I don't even know if that is an option. In the UK, we have standards and practise guidelines to follow. And his patients are paying for his service, he isn't doing them a favour. They can dress how they want, and it is NONE OF HIS BUSINESS to say otherwise.


Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThis shows the total lack of respect that depraved Westerners have toward spiritual people who are trying to guard their souls and whose eyes are fastened on eternity and God, not this evil and wicked world. Those who have succumbed to this world's glitter and lies won't be happy until they drag everybody else down into their delusion and depravity.


A: "depraved Westerners"? Oh please, at least I'm behind the idea of suffrage for women!

B: "spiritual people"? Oh please, show me something spiritual. Anything. Quantify, qualify or shut the hell up. Make up all the stories you want, but they'll never be as cool or convincing as Zeus getting it on with a chick in the form of a bull to sire Hercules.

I hate it when people defend ignorant ideologies that originated in the Dark Ages and before, when people clearly had very little knowledge of what the world is actually like. Is the world a flat disk encompassed by a tin dome? Of course not - so why believe that it is?


Originally posted by Salt of the EarthLeave the Muslims alone. Would you like to live in Iran and have the United States fighter aircraft floating offshore waiting for the slightest excuse to nuke your country and people away?


No, but I'll leave the Muslims alone when the shut up about their stupid "prophet" and the bull he spewed. Also, I hate the US, so frankly they're all just as bad.


Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThese people are righteous and they are the ones whose conscience is clean, not the United States, not Israel, not England, not any Luciferian Fourth Reicher New Age devil worshipping people who think they have the right to blow up the planet and kill innocent families because they don't like the way the women dress or don't approve of somebody's religion.


Sorry, Muslims are righteous?? Clean conscience?? Any religion that feels the need to override other religions with their own precepts is wrong, and Islam is no different. I won't get into listing the atrocities performed in the name of Islam ,because I imagine there have been plenty of posts previously that do that job just fine.

Oh, btw, the devil? Honestly, do you know anything about Zoroastrianism? Do you know Satan's position in Judaism? Do you know anything at all about the origins of your own blind faith? Of course not. So please, zip it before you make yourself look even more foolish.


Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThe Muslims are not aborting their babies.
The Muslims are virgins when they marry, they value family, they love their children.
The Muslims don't orgy, don't go around with a perpetual flame burning between their legs for encounters with strangers in bathrooms.


Oh deary me, this made me laugh out loud. My friend lived in Saudi Arabia, and he told me how surprised he was when, in a record store, he opened a cassette case (a few years back now) and found the name and telephone number of a woman. This happened a few times, and he was informed that basically they meet for anonymous sex.

What you don't understand is that Muslims, like all people, pay lip service to good morals and values, but when the sheets are pulled back, they are all getting pissed in Dubai like the rest of us.


Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThe Muslims don't read porn, don't go to x-rated movies, don't drool over women dressed in cheap fringes and sequens


Yes. They. Do. Fool.


The Muslims are happy to live in the world of reality, not the world of ....are made to seem evil.


The Muslim version of reality is also a bit skewed. They try witches, you know.

What you are describing is American culture, which is also #.


And I am NOT a Muslim. I am a Christian. I believe the Bible is God's Word, every jot and tittle, and put no stock in the Koran whatever. But I give the Muslims credit for a sincere love of God and for having a conscience which has not been seared away like most everyone else's has.


And you clearly know nothing of the formation of the Old and New Testaments. Believe God wrote every word, if you like, and I won't point out how most was nicked from the Babylonians during the exile.

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posted on May, 11 2009 @ 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
If they feel our area of the world is so decadent and corrupt, why come?


Maybe they want to live someplace where they don't have to have aircraft carriers floating off their shores loaded with nukes waiting for an excuse to blow them up?



Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThis Muslim dentist is willing to treat nonMuslims. All he asks is that people not hop up in the chair wearing tight pants, or skirts exposing their legs, or tight sweaters with cleavage hanging out, etcetera. He is willing to provide what he considers proper clothing for the woman to wear. But no, that's not good enough. He should just refuse to treat any nonMuslims and be done with it.



Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
I don't even know if that is an option. In the UK, we have standards and practise guidelines to follow. And his patients are paying for his service, he isn't doing them a favour. They can dress how they want, and it is NONE OF HIS BUSINESS to say otherwise.


But the rest of the doctors can strip them down and humiliate them, and you think that's just fine. Have you never been in a doctor's office or hospital and felt humiliated by the way they like to strip you and expose you?


Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
B: "spiritual people"? Oh please, show me something spiritual.


It is spiritual to live for eternity, to keep oneself unspotted from the world, to suffer persecution, ridicule and hatred from the rest of people who hate you for keeping your eye on the prize, reminding the rest of the dupes, who are empty and hungry from eating things which do not satisfy, that they have chosen the wrong path.


Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
Sorry, Muslims are righteous?? Clean conscience?? Any religion that feels the need to override other religions with their own precepts is wrong, and Islam is no different. I won't get into listing the atrocities performed in the name of Islam ,because I imagine there have been plenty of posts previously that do that job just fine.


Warmongering, hatemongering propaganda. It's obvious who is perpetrating the atrocities, and it is not the Muslims.


Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
My friend lived in Saudi Arabia, and he told me how surprised he was when, in a record store, he opened a cassette case (a few years back now) and found the name and telephone number of a woman. This happened a few times, and he was informed that basically they meet for anonymous sex. What you don't understand is that Muslims, like all people, pay lip service to good morals and values, but when the sheets are pulled back, they are all getting pissed in Dubai like the rest of us.


Everybody knows the Saudis are the most corrupt, that the Sheiks are Illuminati, homosexuals, depraved. The average Muslim man or woman is sincere, a family person who was virgin on marriage and who now married do not fornicate, don't sodomize each other in marriage, who love their children, and who see abortion as the horror it is.



posted on May, 11 2009 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by Freeborn
NHS funded so has a duty to treat everyone regardless of race or creed!

Would it be ok to only serve white people in my pub?


A person who is a healthcare person has the right to decide what kinds of gowns or clothing people must wear to be treated. This is standard.

The problem is that Western people are so used to being stripped and humiliated and treatead like a sack of potatoes that they are blown away by a medical person who wants to drape them.

I don't see where he's turning anybody away. He has a right to run his practice the way he wants if he's not doing any harm. If he demanded people strip down and wait naked in the waiting room, then I think people would have a reason to complain.

But not for him wanting people draped while he works on them. If it makes people uncomfortable, there are other dentists. Some people might appreciate a dentist like this.



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