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Originally posted by rival
I don't know anything about the health care system in the UK, but if this
dentist was part of a governmental agency then he should be fired. If he
is in private practice, then, at best, this is only an interesting news
story.
'He even offered to provide one for me to use, but I didn't want to wear it. I shouldn't have to wear it to get treatment.
'I had great pain in my tooth at the time, but I wasn't going to stand for that so we left.'
Another patient and her family had to leave the clinic in June 2007 because she would not wear the religious headdress after spending a year looking for a dentist in the area, the hearing was told.
The woman's husband, known as Mr C, was also called into a private room at the surgery where Butt asked him to impose a dress code on his wife.
If found guilty he faces being removed the dental register.
In September 2007 Butt was formally reprimanded by the GDC for similar behaviour and found guilty of serious professional misconduct.
The hearing, being held in London, continues.
Originally posted by CuriousSkeptic
As stupid as I may think this is, the good dentist owns a private business and can serve who he wants and not who he doesn't. If as a businessman he's stupid enough to turn away potential customers because they don't meet his religious standards, that's his choice. I really don't see a problem with this.
Originally posted by Kailassa
Any dentist that bigoted is probably a crappy dentist anyway.
Any women he refused to treat should count themselves lucky.
In my high school days we had only one local dentist in the remote area I lived in. He terrorised us kids unless we agreed to follow his religion.
- Can't even remember what religion it was now, 40 years later.
But we all converted for the duration of our appointments, or we got the insides of our cheeks slashed open.
Originally posted by the golden ray
yeah exactly, I wonder if he uses the pain killer for the infidel? Come to think of it he probably wouldn't use it for women anyway.
Originally posted by Ridhya
reply to post by Laurauk
And why are you replying to me by telling me that?
I've already posted that I know that and dont agree with what hes doing, Ive said it like 3 times already, Im just sick of people saying hes forcing his religion on westerners like he owns the place.
jfj123
how is that insulting you?
I called you on being ignorant because you're obviously ignoring what DohBama is saying.
He calls us infidels and talks about how Allah justifies...whatever because he is trying to show you how a different point of view goes.
I dont know how much more clear I could be.
Read the websites he posts they are very against Islam, like he is, if YOUD read between the lines.
And ever heard the phrase, 'I dont agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it"? Thats along my lines. Just because you defend someone doesnt mean you agree.
Originally posted by neformore
reply to post by Longy4eva
The first two of those are scaremongering hoaxes and are not true
The last one is a quirk in the law/legal loophole that the current British government has said it is actively seeking to address, and that the conservatives have said they will remove should they come to power.
Hope that clears it up. I'm heartily sick of seeing what is basically racist propaganda and untruths appearing in this thread.
[edit on 11/5/09 by neformore]
Originally posted by jfj123
Could you also expand on what's really going on in the UK with regards to these types of situations?
It seems by some of the scaremongering posts, the UK is about to be over run by muslims who are hell bent on destroying our way of life.
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by neformore
Whilst I agree with what you say don't you also think it is fair to say that Muslims have a say and influence that proportionately far exceeds their numbers?
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
reply to post by Salt of the Earth
I agree on some points.
But I must say I know quite a few young muslims who are guilty with some of the things you mention, they love looking at women too
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
And this dentist, I can assure you many muslims will disagree with his behaviour, especially the muslims that he told to do as he says.
Originally posted by _Phoenix_
The fact is, he should have chosen a different career if this bothered him so much. This is a multicultral society, he must expect all kinds of people to come in, and he must be prepared to serve all of them, if not, he needs to make a career change ASAP.
Originally posted by Freeborn
reply to post by Salt of the Earth
And who the hell are you or anyone else for that matter to impose your your own repressed morals on anyone else
Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
This Muslim dentist is willing to treat nonMuslims. All he asks is that people not hop up in the chair wearing tight pants, or skirts exposing their legs, or tight sweaters with cleavage hanging out, etcetera. He is willing to provide what he considers proper clothing for the woman to wear. But no, that's not good enough. He should just refuse to treat any nonMuslims and be done with it.
Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
These people are righteous and they are the ones whose conscience is clean, not the United States, not Israel, not England, not any Luciferian Fourth Reicher New Age devil worshipping people who think they have the right to blow up the planet and kill innocent families because they don't like the way the women dress or don't approve of somebody's religion.
Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
The Muslims are not aborting their babies.
The Muslims are virgins when they marry, they value family, they love their children.
The Muslims don't orgy, don't go around with a perpetual flame burning between their legs for encounters with strangers in bathrooms.
Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
Leave the Muslims alone. Would you like to live in Iran and have the United States fighter aircraft floating offshore waiting for the slightest excuse to nuke your country and people away?
Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
Hate-mongering stories such as this one are designed to stir up the people to want to wipe out the Muslims.
Originally posted by FMLuder
It was pretty damned obvious you weren't a Brit lol.
Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
He is willing to treat anybody. He has a right to run his office as he chooses. If people can't understand that he is a practicing Muslim in addition to being a dentist, they should go find another dentist.
Originally posted by Salt of the Earth
Hate-mongering stories such as this one are designed to stir up the people ...inside job and that Building 7 also fell at the speed of gravity and that no plane hit that building and that the owner Larry Silverstein said on the Discovery Channel that he had the building "pulled."
Originally posted by Salt of the EarthIf anybody ever watched the series online called The Arrivals, a brilliant series put together by a brilliant young Muslim filmmaker named Noreagaa, you'd understand that Muslims are very serious about keeping themselves unspotted from this evil world. They are aware of a very important fact and keep it uppermost in their minds. That fact is that this life is very brief, just a tiny blip on the face of eternity, and that it is not worth sacrificing a human soul for the sins of this world.
Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThis Muslim dentist is willing to treat nonMuslims. All he asks is that people not hop up in the chair wearing tight pants, or skirts exposing their legs, or tight sweaters with cleavage hanging out, etcetera. He is willing to provide what he considers proper clothing for the woman to wear. But no, that's not good enough. He should just refuse to treat any nonMuslims and be done with it.
Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThis shows the total lack of respect that depraved Westerners have toward spiritual people who are trying to guard their souls and whose eyes are fastened on eternity and God, not this evil and wicked world. Those who have succumbed to this world's glitter and lies won't be happy until they drag everybody else down into their delusion and depravity.
Originally posted by Salt of the EarthLeave the Muslims alone. Would you like to live in Iran and have the United States fighter aircraft floating offshore waiting for the slightest excuse to nuke your country and people away?
Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThese people are righteous and they are the ones whose conscience is clean, not the United States, not Israel, not England, not any Luciferian Fourth Reicher New Age devil worshipping people who think they have the right to blow up the planet and kill innocent families because they don't like the way the women dress or don't approve of somebody's religion.
Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThe Muslims are not aborting their babies.
The Muslims are virgins when they marry, they value family, they love their children.
The Muslims don't orgy, don't go around with a perpetual flame burning between their legs for encounters with strangers in bathrooms.
Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThe Muslims don't read porn, don't go to x-rated movies, don't drool over women dressed in cheap fringes and sequens
The Muslims are happy to live in the world of reality, not the world of ....are made to seem evil.
And I am NOT a Muslim. I am a Christian. I believe the Bible is God's Word, every jot and tittle, and put no stock in the Koran whatever. But I give the Muslims credit for a sincere love of God and for having a conscience which has not been seared away like most everyone else's has.
Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
If they feel our area of the world is so decadent and corrupt, why come?
Originally posted by Salt of the EarthThis Muslim dentist is willing to treat nonMuslims. All he asks is that people not hop up in the chair wearing tight pants, or skirts exposing their legs, or tight sweaters with cleavage hanging out, etcetera. He is willing to provide what he considers proper clothing for the woman to wear. But no, that's not good enough. He should just refuse to treat any nonMuslims and be done with it.
Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
I don't even know if that is an option. In the UK, we have standards and practise guidelines to follow. And his patients are paying for his service, he isn't doing them a favour. They can dress how they want, and it is NONE OF HIS BUSINESS to say otherwise.
Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
B: "spiritual people"? Oh please, show me something spiritual.
Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
Sorry, Muslims are righteous?? Clean conscience?? Any religion that feels the need to override other religions with their own precepts is wrong, and Islam is no different. I won't get into listing the atrocities performed in the name of Islam ,because I imagine there have been plenty of posts previously that do that job just fine.
Originally posted by The Last Man on Earth
My friend lived in Saudi Arabia, and he told me how surprised he was when, in a record store, he opened a cassette case (a few years back now) and found the name and telephone number of a woman. This happened a few times, and he was informed that basically they meet for anonymous sex. What you don't understand is that Muslims, like all people, pay lip service to good morals and values, but when the sheets are pulled back, they are all getting pissed in Dubai like the rest of us.
Originally posted by Freeborn
NHS funded so has a duty to treat everyone regardless of race or creed!
Would it be ok to only serve white people in my pub?